Fuck This (My rant)

[Luna_Wolf72]

It seems to me that people are far more snide and rude than i myself would have ever personally believed. All of this back biting, sly commentary and shit for a fucking thread that lets people use their imaginations. Whoop de fucking do. So what if we wanted a thread where we could engage in some harmless BDSM themed fantasies? All of a sudden there is a law that says we should take our fun to another forum. WHY? Is it not heavy and real enough for the majority of those who read this forum? This is a forum for those of us who want to conversate, play, kid around. UTTER BULLSHIT!!

 

[WriterDom]

You mean the sticky? Seemed to be more of a suggestion than a law to me. I think there is room for a few role playing threads.

 

[Guest]

You mean the sticky? Seemed to be more of a suggestion than a law to me. I think there is room for a few role playing threads.

Hmmm I think we may be looking at more than the sticky here, eh????

 

[MissTaken]

You mean the sticky? Seemed to be more of a suggestion than a law to me. I think there is room for a few role playing threads.

*nods head*

 

[redelicious]

Deja vu?

First of all, I think MissT is a wonderful moderator. It must be very hard to be in her position and she continues to handle it with grace and tact.

If this is indeed a community then it is only natural that people who meet here are going to want to play here too. Yeah, not everyone wants to do that or feels it's appropriate. Luckily we have two boards.

There are a variety of threads on ALL the boards. Maybe that's wrong according to the strictest of interpretations of each board's purpose. But people are going to post where they are most comfortable and threads that truly don't fit on a certain board won't be successful.

I think it's a good thing a variety of people are posting here. There is a wealth of information on this side of lit and the traffic can only improve exposure and education.

The BDSM boards try very hard to be accepting and inclusive. Sometimes it seems that acceptance only applys to serious, r/l posters. If one end of the spectrum is ok, then there should be at least a little room for the other.

Well, those are my views. At least I'm consistant.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I guess as with most areas in life, there have to be some basic guidelines. I enjoy the serious and not so serious threads, and partake in both types, but I also agree there has to be balance. A joke on a thread dealing with a serious topic is fine, several postings that go on with the private conversation, often until the original topic is lost and especially when urelated to BDSM, is annoying and self centered. It often is seen as being stodgy to remind people a thread is following a topic relevant to those discussing it and not a place for chitchat, and yet those same people would be offended if it were suggested that just as they see nothing wrong if every thread becomes a mish mash of hellos and jokes, that every thread should be serious with no fun.

There is a time and place for all things and one group has no more right to impose their interests and personality on the whole board than does another. To me it is about respecting others the same as you expect them to respect you. Overall that is the beauty of Literotica BDSM boards and posters in comparison with others...there is considerable effort put in to resisting the occassional hijacking from changing the board from one of respect and good reputation to one that just becomes another in a long list of average humdrum and abuse dominated forums.

As to the sticky, I see it more as a guideline which likely was an afterthought of something that should have been put at the top of the Cafe initially, more so than a message of heavy handedness. Maybe it is just the way I read it. As redelicious says, Miss T works hard to keep things flowing with as little interference as possible, while trying to maintain a voice for all....never an easy position
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Catalina

 

[redelicious]

I just want to make sure everyone understands that I wasn't talking about hijacking threads. While I have been guilty of doing just that on occaision, I think continued OTC is rude and helps no one.

My post is about threads that exist for the purpose of flirting, chit-chat, and role play. I agree with much of what Catalina said.

 

[catalina_francisco]

I just want to make sure everyone understands that I wasn't talking about hijacking threads. While I have been guilty of doing just that on occaision, I think continued OTC is rude and helps no one.

My post is about threads that exist for the purpose of flirting, chit-chat, and role play. I agree with much of what Catalina said.

Think most of us have been guilty at some time or another of such antics, but thankfully most of us realise our exuberance may not be appreciated by all and move on. I also initially posted before realising Miss T had a new sticky....Sunday night vege out mind numb...but think perhaps she is just setting guidelines for anyone who is not aware of the reasons for both forums and not a heavy handed dictate.

Catalina

 

[MissTaken]

Okay, I will tell you why I posted the sticky.

Essentially, some of the newer folks don't seem sure about where to place threads and the sticky should act as a general descriptor. I will add that without exception, when I have asked someone for permission to move their thread, they have agreed.

As for my comments about role playing threads, I appreciate that dagrunt started the Chateau and there are some who are enjoying the thread. I merely wanted to dissuade people from coming in and starting seemingly random roleplaying threads. As WD suggests, a few are fine and seem to add to the flavor of the forum.

No, my sticky is not intended to be heavy handed, but rather, it should be seen as a tool for those unused to our forums to help guide them into what we have worked towards, two forums, one for serious discussion, the other for conversation, jokes and comaraderie. I have had no complaints about the Chateau and unless I am reading the wrong threads, am not aware of any public concerns being expressed.

Recognizing that I am no infallible and that I have made mistakes that I have owned, I do appreciate the kind words and support expressed here.

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

Alright. I'm going to weigh in here.

I will admit, that I do PM MissT from time to time to ask that threads be moved from one board to another.

And I'll tell you why.

I refuse to allow both these Boards to become mirrors of one another. Grant you...I don't sit here with an eagle eye monitoring every flippin' thread, but I do tend to read ALOT of them, with an eye to the Library. If I feel like it screams Talk Board, and it's sitting on the Cafe', I may consult MissT about her thoughts on it.

Otherwise...what the HELLLLLL was the point of splitting the Board in two in the first place?!?!?!

I support the split, in case you are getting the idea that I don't. But I support it in the way in which it was intended....which is outlined in the sticky MissT posted.

Thanks, MissT. Rock on, sistah.

~anelize

 

[A Desert Rose]

Personal ads are not permitted and role playing should be kept to the minimum. While we have unmoderated discussion in the Cafe, we also do not want to duplicate what is happening on the Sexual Role Playing forum or the Personal's Forum. They are here and available, so please feel free to use them.

This sounds like a seal of approval to me. It sure does not appear to be a big toe in the middle of this forum or any of the threads on either "page" of it. I don't know what the big deal is. No one moved anyone's thread to a different forum.

And I too, have pm'd MissT with suggestions for thread movement, for the exact same reason as Analize. I never liked this forum spilt but, since it is here to stay, I think it should be adhered to. I sure try to post my threads on the appropriate "page."

I can't see anything heavy handed or big toed (lol) in MissT's sticky or in her decisions.

I am taking a nap now.

 

[A Desert Rose]

And might I add:

This is all Johnny's fault. He started this rant epidemic. And I told him so, too.

I think he's proud of himself.

;-)

 

[catalina_francisco]

OK people, we need to bow in gratitude for the freedom of Lit. While we have our moments, overall people are tolerent and willing to support each other, even if we don't always agree on every issue. Added to that, moderation is minima, and if someone steps seriously out of line, it is usually addressed at a community level, and more often than not if the offending party were genuinely mistaken, misguided, or provide a legitimate argument, all is forgiven. Some sites are not so forgiving, and though they likely have legitimate reasons, it is often off putting in their initial manner and response.

Catalina

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

General Disclaimer

The point of my first posting was simply this...i don't understand how a BDSM themed role playing thread can cause so much fuss (AND YES there has been fuss). Was i trying to imply that Miss T was not (is not, could not) do her job? NO!! I was simply making a statement which was...the thread is BDSM in nature, it is in the right spot for such a thread and it makes no sense how many little comments i personally have heard (read) concerning said thread. If i have managed to alienate any one i am truly, deeply sorry and ask your forgiveness. The point was that i wanted to say something in general to the board. PERIOD. Miss T answered my PM after i had posted this particular rant and explained her reasoning. If i would have gotten it before this, i would have asked her to remove this thread.

So, once again, this rant was not directed at a specific person. It was concerning a situation that i perceived to be unfair and has since then been explained (quite nicely) by our beloved moderator, OK?

 

[MissTaken]

Hi pet!

At no time, have I felt you were accusing me or attacking me as moderator or personally. Your pm was up front and showed concerns as well as welcomed a response. I believe that kind of communication is effective among people who have mutual Respect! *warm smiles* I would love to see more problem solving done in this manner.



And yes, Catalina, I almost jumped through the hoops to join the same on line community or one with exactly the same requirements.

I have also visited other forums wherein all posts were moderated and it could take hours for your post to make it to the board.

On the other side of things, I have visited forums which had absolutely no criterion and while I mean to offend no one, these forums were almost all chat room type play, not rising to the level of role playing that requires creativity and imagination as we are experiencing here.

It would be nice if lit forums could maintain some flexibility so as to compromise the two ends of the spectrum of on line communities. I do believe that balance could be delicate to maintain, but it is achievable.

 

[redelicious]

Ok, someone asked me what OTC was...I think it stands for off topic conversation.

Yep, threads that are serious in nature should be on the first board. Fluffier threads definetely belong over here. Absolutely no arguments with that.

Oh yeah, hijacking is bad form.

And these are really great boards.

It's nice we can agree.

 

[Desdemona]

hijack. That site referred to by Catalina and MissT is not a bad place. I'm actually a member. They have valid reasons for their rules. But, it's purpose is different than Lit and if you'll notice I'm here also. I find both types of forums helpful. Maybe I'm in need of intensive therapy. If so, that ain't the end of the world. LOL Hijack over.

 

[MissTaken]

Hi Des,

I just couldn't make time enough to jump through the hoops to become a member and didn't want to make that sort of investment of my time to a group if I wasn't sure I could meaningfully participate.

In truth, I have checked out many other forums and groups and have yet to find anything remotely like lit. It is where I started and in all likelihood where I will stay.

 

[il mio angelo]

Hi all... Hi Des, how are you? Miss T, always a pleasure...

I actually applied to that group, but was rejected because they claimed that my facts were inaccurate. My Dom at the time wrote a glowing letter, so did a sub friend of mine, and another nilla friend. I spent a great deal of time writing that application. In the long run it all worked out for the best, I barely have time to keep up with regular emails.

Anyway, the point I wanted to make is that although I personally don't post anywhere near as often as I used to here, I still think that Lit is one of the much more tolerable and open minded BDSM sites that I have visited.

I personally cannot get into role play, but that is more due to my lack lustre creativity these days.

 

[Desdemona]

Hi Miss T and il mio, I guess my point was just not to judge the other places. If you choose not to apply, there is nothing wrong with that. If your application got rejected for some reason, it doesn't say anything about you as a person or a sub. We all have different needs and get them met in different ways.

Some people enjoy the role play. It allows them a safe way to explore new ideas mentally or to just play and blow off steam after a hard day at work or doing other real life things. I don't see anything wrong with it. I personally don't have enough creativity to keep up a story line. So, I'm content on the sidelines.

 

[il mio angelo]

Hi Miss T and il mio, I guess my point was just not to judge the other places. If you choose not to apply, there is nothing wrong with that. If your application got rejected for some reason, it doesn't say anything about you as a person or a sub. We all have different needs and get them met in different ways.

I agree with you Des... I like the other sites, even the one that rejected me. I browse on b.com a lot, seen a few fellow Litsters there as well, but so far nothing with the diversity of Lit.

Some people enjoy the role play. It allows them a safe way to explore new ideas mentally or to just play and blow off steam after a hard day at work or doing other real life things. I don't see anything wrong with it. I personally don't have enough creativity to keep up a story line. So, I'm content on the sidelines.

Are we long lost twins or what? I can write a short story, but I could not role play... mine would not be erotic, more like comic relief.

 

[Desdemona]

I thought we decided that months ago. I'm your evil twin.

 

[il mio angelo]

I thought we decided that months ago. I'm your evil twin.

WOW, you must be real bad then.. I thought I was the evil one.

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

Originally posted by il mio angelo
I browse on b.com a lot, seen a few fellow Litsters there as well, but so far nothing with the diversity of Lit.

I also browse b.com, and I have to disagree with this post on one point.

Unfortunately, until VERY recently, the voices of male submissives have been conspicuously absent from our conversations here at Lit. If you browse b.com, you will find that they are not. It is a much more diverse landscape over there....more malesubs and Dommes.

Which is the reason, bottom line, why I browse that site. I'm very happy that things are changing over here, and hope that change continues Lit/BDSM is my home, of course, but it's nice to have another place to go to hear different and diverse views.

~anelize

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

I also browse b.com, and I have to disagree with this post on one point.

Unfortunately, until VERY recently, the voices of male submissives have been conspicuously absent from our conversations here at Lit. If you browse b.com, you will find that they are not. It is a much more diverse landscape over there....more malesubs and Dommes.

Which is the reason, bottom line, why I browse that site. I'm very happy that things are changing over here, and hope that change continues Lit/BDSM is my home, of course, but it's nice to have another place to go to hear different and diverse views.

~anelize

Thanks anelize...i have a profile for b.com and have met 2 really nice Dom's as well as a sweet boy from that site. I do not like it more than this particular place but it does fill a niche that this forum kinda lacks for me. (A way to meet people who are close to ME, in the lifestyle)

pet