Frustrated . . .

[TedHikes52]

Hello all,
I recently posted my first story on the Literotica site. It was published in Erotic Couplings and described a chance intimate encounter with a YouTube/OnlyFans personality. I follow the person on both platforms, which is why I was inspired to write about her. I contacted her on one of her platforms and received permission to publish the story. I specifically described the very explicit content of the story. She only asked that the story not include any cut-and-paste from our DM's. It did not. She then asked to be notified when the story was live so she could read it here. When published, the story seems to have been well liked. 8k+ people read it while it was live and the rating was 4.8. I personally thought the story was exciting.
After sending a DM the day the story was published, I followed up twice more over the next 6 weeks asking if she enjoyed the story. I never received a reply even though she remained quite active on her page. I became frustrated that I could not get an answer and assumed that she had read the story and was somehow offended. I took the story down.
After all that whining, here is my question . . . Am I a fucking idiot? Should I republish the story and keep writing or stay with my assumption? I am in a quandary and not sure how I feel about my next choices. Any feedback/commentary will be appreciated. Thanks.
TedHikes52

Afterglow . . .
Thanks for all the candid feedback, which, by the way, is right on point. I needed this literary slap in the face. I’ll put on my big boy pants and keep any future posts here about writing. Cheers!

 

[Bamagan]

This seems to be a situation where a lot of context is missing. It sounds like you want more attention from this person than they are interested in giving you, and have become petulant as a result. The decision to take the story down seems more like an emotional knee-jerk response than a rational one. Now your knee wants to jerk back in the other direction, eh? The behavior seems something like anxious ambivalence... but that's very much a layperson's opinion!
I'd say put the story back up, until or unless the person contacts you to ask otherwise. Even if they didn't care for it, other people apparently did, so you can at least make them happy by continuing to share it.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

I assume that if she were offended, she would have said so and asked you to take down the story. Maybe she lost interest in it or simply expected something different, hence no reply.
Either way, there was no reason to take the story down. One of the early lessons of publishing here is that you can't hope to please everybody. Write what makes you happy and satisfied.

My advice is to republish the story, but make sure NOT to fret whether you'll get the same kind of feedback and rating as you previously had. Give it time, and your story will find its readers.

 

[Britva415]

Did you stop paying her for her content?

 

[EmmAgain]

I’m sorry to say, but this is more about your need for her attention than the quality of your writing or her personal wants.

 

[Voboy]

It sounds like you want more attention from this person than they are interested in giving you, and have become petulant as a result. The decision to take the story down seems more like an emotional knee-jerk response than a rational one. Now your knee wants to jerk back in the other direction, eh?

This.

Literotica is a story site. You've posted a story. That story was doing fine.

That other site has nothing to do with what you want us to help you with. Meaning, we can only help you with writing and publishing stuff here. On Lit.

What you do on that other site is your business. Post the story. It's plainly found an audience, and that's what we all seek when we post.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

My advice is to republish the story, but make sure NOT to fret whether you'll get the same kind of feedback and rating as you previously had. Give it time, and your story will find its readers.

With maybe some editing to remove all reference to any specific person.

 

[TheNovelist2000]

I have a solution. You definitely come across to me as a simp who's craving her attention. Why don’t you just send her some money? Remember, OnlyFans girls aren’t necessarily interested in you just because they respond or show interest in your story. You need to understand the dynamic between the two of you: you get the pleasure of her attention, and she gets your money. It’s not the other way around.

Maybe you think you’re doing her a favour by writing this story, but perhaps it’s actually the other way around—maybe she’s the one doing you a favour by replying and giving you attention. And now she’s stopped, because you’ve proven to be less of a wallet than she hoped.

As for the story, just reupload it to the site. The site’s readers benefit from it, and you’ve already written it. The story is yours—so even if she’s offended by it, you can still upload it as long as it doesn’t violate the guidelines.

 

[TheNovelist2000]

With maybe some editing to remove all reference to any specific person.

Yes, check the guidelines first. The site may not allow any references to an actual person, especially if she explicitly tells you that she doesn't want it here.

 

[ElectricBlue]

After all that whining, here is my question . . . Am I a fucking idiot? Should I republish the story and keep writing or stay with my assumption? I am in a quandary and not sure how I feel about my next choices. Any feedback/commentary will be appreciated. Thanks.

To be pedantic, you should have published it in Fan Fiction and Celebrities, because your story is based on a real person (even if it's unlikely anyone else will know or care who she is). Setting that aside, you sound more like an aggrieved fan than anything else, and if you took the story down because you didn't get the attention you wanted, that's entirely up to you.

The smart thing to do would be to make it less explicitly about her, make the character fictional, and keep it up as a piece of fiction. This is an example where writing about real people seems a bit dodgy, a bit stalkerish. I mean, did she ask for your (what might be horrible) sexual fantasies about her? I'm guessing not.

 

[OddLove]

If the goal here is to upgrade your parasocial relationship with this internet celebrity, then my advice is simple. Sing your ass off.

You need to pour your god damn heart out onto the sheet of paper, confess your love, hold nothing back, climb to the top of the tallest mountain, and record a live performance of your song.

Post it online, and go viral!

When the song hits half a billion views on YouTube, she'll come crawling back to you. Then when she tells you that song was the nicest thin anyone's ever done for her, you laugh and tell her that song was about someone else.

 

[TedHikes52]

To be pedantic, you should have published it in Fan Fiction and Celebrities, because your story is based on a real person (even if it's unlikely anyone else will know or care who she is). Setting that aside, you sound more like an aggrieved fan than anything else, and if you took the story down because you didn't get the attention you wanted, that's entirely up to you.

The smart thing to do would be to make it less explicitly about her, make the character fictional, and keep it up as a piece of fiction. This is an example where writing about real people seems a bit dodgy, a bit stalkerish. I mean, did she ask for your (what might be horrible) sexual fantasies about her? I'm guessing not.

Thank you for your candor. You are right. This one is on me.

 

[TedHikes52]

I have a solution. You definitely come across to me as a simp who's craving her attention. Why don’t you just send her some money? Remember, OnlyFans girls aren’t necessarily interested in you just because they respond or show interest in your story. You need to understand the dynamic between the two of you: you get the pleasure of her attention, and she gets your money. It’s not the other way around.

Maybe you think you’re doing her a favour by writing this story, but perhaps it’s actually the other way around—maybe she’s the one doing you a favour by replying and giving you attention. And now she’s stopped, because you’ve proven to be less of a wallet than she hoped.

As for the story, just reupload it to the site. The site’s readers benefit from it, and you’ve already written it. The story is yours—so even if she’s offended by it, you can still upload it as long as it doesn’t violate the guidelines.

Harsh, but fair. Thanks

 

[TedHikes52]

I’m sorry to say, but this is more about your need for her attention than the quality of your writing or her personal wants.

I believe you are right. I just need to gtfu. Thanks.

 

[TedHikes52]

Did you stop paying her for her content?

No. Still a fan. These comments on my post have made me see what a child I am being. It’s on me.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't mean to be insensitive, but I'm struck by how many Author's Hangout threads recently seem to be about authors who are upset at the responses they are getting. It seems to be a trend, much more conspicuous than when I started participating in this forum over 8 years ago.

My response is, be an adult. Grow up. Get a thick skin. You have no entitlement to anything, response-wise. This is the way it is when you are an author and publish a story.

The OP's story got a 4.8, which is the best ANY of my stories have done, and I'm one of the more successful authors here in terms of views and favorites, and my response to hearing about this woman not responding the way the OP wanted her to respond is, so what? This is life, dude. Who knows what she was thinking. You have no idea. You don't have a real relationship with her. Move on.

I don't get taking the story down.

 

[EmmAgain]

I believe you are right. I just need to gtfu. Thanks.

That takes a lot of courage.

 

[TedHikes52]

I don't mean to be insensitive, but I'm struck by how many Author's Hangout threads recently seem to be about authors who are upset at the responses they are getting. It seems to be a trend, much more conspicuous than when I started participating in this forum over 8 years ago.

My response is, be an adult. Grow up. Get a thick skin. You have no entitlement to anything, response-wise. This is the way it is when you are an author and publish a story.

The OP's story got a 4.8, which is the best ANY of my stories have done, and I'm one of the more successful authors here in terms of views and favorites, and my response to hearing about this woman not responding the way the OP wanted her to respond is, so what? This is life, dude. Who knows what she was thinking. You have no idea. You don't have a real relationship with her. Move on.

I don't get taking the story down.

You are spot on. I am acting like a child. Thanks for your candor.

 

[SimonDoom]

You are spot on. I am acting like a child. Thanks for your candor.

I apologize if I came off as being mean and dismissive. But there is a principle here, and it seems like too many authors posting in this forum recently don't understand it. You are entitled to nothing. Do what you do, and don't make your artistic satisfaction dependent upon the reactions of others. Keep moving forward. Enjoy the positive feedback (which you obviously received since you had a 4.8 score) and ignore the rest.

Too many authors in this forum are obsessed with the negative.

 

[TedHikes52]

I apologize if I came off as being mean and dismissive. But there is a principle here, and it seems like too many authors posting in this forum recently don't understand it. You are entitled to nothing. Do what you do, and don't make your artistic satisfaction dependent upon the reactions of others. Keep moving forward. Enjoy the positive feedback (which you obviously received since you had a 4.8 score) and ignore the rest.

Too many authors in this forum are obsessed with the negative.

Wise words. I appreciate it.

 

[KittyOfSteele]

Are you a fucking idiot? By the sound of it, maybe not. You're human, and the only idiotic thing you've done is idealized a parasocial relationship, but if ignorance means idiocy, then everyone is an idiot at birth.

Thing is content creators aren't exactly out there looking for friends. This type of interaction is their job, and I can safely bet that maybe some of the conversations you had could have followed a certain script at first.

I pulled down stories, but my reasons for it are because either a) they were unfinished or b) I can do better than that, even at the time I wrote those. So, if it was me in that position, I wouldn't have pulled down the story, but it's not my choice, it is yours. If you felt compelled to pull it down, even if it was doing good, it's your choice, and I won't judge you for that.

The only thing I could tell you is keep writing. If you want to put it back on, then do it. My only advice would be to use this to keep writing. You know this meme of a dude who picked up baking to pick up a girl and ended up liking baking more than the girl? Well, this could be a good chance to follow on his footsteps. In other words, fuck that content creator. Seriously, she is, without a doubt, not interested in you.

Also:

To be pedantic, you should have published it in Fan Fiction and Celebrities, because your story is based on a real person (even if it's unlikely anyone else will know or care who she is).

The smart thing to do would be to make it less explicitly about her, make the character fictional, and keep it up as a piece of fiction.

There's an entire genre that's all about this.

 

[TedHikes52]

Are you a fucking idiot? By the sound of it, maybe not. You're human, and the only idiotic thing you've done is idealized a parasocial relationship, but if ignorance means idiocy, then everyone is an idiot at birth.

Thing is content creators aren't exactly out there looking for friends. This type of interaction is their job, and I can safely bet that maybe some of the conversations you had could have followed a certain script at first.

I pulled down stories, but my reasons for it are because either a) they were unfinished or b) I can do better than that, even at the time I wrote those. So, if it was me in that position, I wouldn't have pulled down the story, but it's not my choice, it is yours. If you felt compelled to pull it down, even if it was doing good, it's your choice, and I won't judge you for that.

The only thing I could tell you is keep writing. If you want to put it back on, then do it. My only advice would be to use this to keep writing. You know this meme of a dude who picked up baking to pick up a girl and ended up liking baking more than the girl? Well, this could be a good chance to follow on his footsteps. In other words, fuck that content creator. Seriously, she is, without a doubt, not interested in you.

Also:



There's an entire genre that's all about this.

Very good advice, on all points. Thank you.

 

[TheLobster]

You know this meme of a dude who picked up baking to pick up a girl and ended up liking baking more than the girl? Well, this could be a good chance to follow on his footsteps.

This is solid advice. OP should definitely delete OnlyFans, hit the gym, and lawyer up light up his Lit account with more stories.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

My response is, be an adult. Grow up. Get a thick skin. You have no entitlement to anything, response-wise. This is the way it is when you are an author and publish a story.

I agree 100%. In fact I say the same thing here basically word-for-word and get trashed and bombed and told what a horrible person I am. "It's easy for you to say 'just grow a thick skin, some of us can't!'" Yet, Simon states it and immediately gets 2 likes. (eyeroll)

 

[lovecraft68]

Simon beat me to saying to grow up. She gave you permission, you did it, the story was doing well and because she wasn't gushing over it you got pissy and removed it. Why? Did you write it just for her? If so you should have sent it to her. You put it here, got people invested and enjoying it and I'm sure looking for more then you yank it away.

You sound like a young boy with a crush who's pulling a hissy fit because she didn't swoon over it. Maybe you were too pushy with her? I know they put themselves out there for an income and interaction is key, but also sure they deal with a lot of BS and it can become tiresome. I can see this woman thinking "Christ, I let you write the story, what more do you want?"

I think you reacted childishly is my opinion.