From Nobel Peace Prize winner to "the longest wartime President in history"

[ifrtbttrflys]

Throw in supplying the entire planet with more weapons than any other single person in history, traitor-in-chief commanding the most draconian surveillance apparatus ever known to man, and no doubt the most financially irresponsible President the nation has ever known. And now he has his SoS Kerry negotiating the surrender to Russia and Syria of their "rebel" force stock-full of Islamic jihadis.

God bless the Constitution for its presidential terms limit.

#onemoremonthHOORAY!


Obama, the longest wartime president in history, defends terror strategy
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-argues-sustainable-strategy-terror/95012796/

Obama’s Final Arms-Export Tally More than Doubles Bush’s
http://www.defenseone.com/business/2016/11/obamas-final-arms-export-tally-more-doubles-bushs/133014/

Pentagon’s Sloppy Bookkeeping Means $6.5 Trillion Can’t Pass an Audit
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/...ookkeeping-Means-65-Trillion-Can-t-Pass-Audit

 

[Hard_Rom]

Throw in supplying the entire planet with more weapons than any other single person in history, traitor-in-chief commanding the most draconian surveillance apparatus ever known to man, and no doubt the most financially irresponsible President the nation has ever known. And now he has his SoS Kerry negotiating the surrender to Russia and Syria of their "rebel" force stock-full of Islamic jihadis.

God bless the Constitution for its presidential terms limit.

#onemoremonthHOORAY!


Obama, the longest wartime president in history, defends terror strategy
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-argues-sustainable-strategy-terror/95012796/

Obama’s Final Arms-Export Tally More than Doubles Bush’s
http://www.defenseone.com/business/2016/11/obamas-final-arms-export-tally-more-doubles-bushs/133014/

Pentagon’s Sloppy Bookkeeping Means $6.5 Trillion Can’t Pass an Audit
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/...ookkeeping-Means-65-Trillion-Can-t-Pass-Audit

And still one of the best presidents the US has had in a long long time.

 

[Conager]

And still one of the best presidents the US has had in a long long time.

Because...?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Because...?

Lots of examples of his accomplishments. Chose this one for it's mostly true perspective. And I am giving a foreigners opinion. Many of you folk hate him. But outside the US he is quite well liked. Maybe 4-5 billion like him while maybe 300 million (world wide) dislike him. Considering the internationally reviled moron he replaced a guide dog for the blind could have done well.

http://www.snopes.com/barack-obama-accomplishments/

When history looks back on him sandwiched between the Moron and Il Donald, IMO he will shine!

 

[Conager]

Lots of examples of his accomplishments. Chose this one for it's mostly true perspective. And I am giving a foreigners opinion. Many of you folk hate him. But outside the US he is quite well liked. Maybe 4-5 billion like him while maybe 300 million (world wide) dislike him. Considering the internationally reviled moron he replaced a guide dog for the blind could have done well.

http://www.snopes.com/barack-obama-accomplishments/

When history looks back on him sandwiched between the Moron and Il Donald, IMO he will shine!

He is not "sandwiched." His presidency, such as it was will be compared to Carter's and Reagan's.

How they met the economic challenges they faced.

Carter exacerbated the problem with wage and price controls.

Reagan "inherited" that and with positive messaging, the promise of future tax cuts and the natural tendency for an economy to rebound sharply after a recession, rode a wave of prosperity. He did this while entering office hobbled by a DNC held legislature. The Reagan recovery is the strongest post-recession recovery on record.

Obama entered ofgice on a wave of personal popularity and had the rare opportunity of his party controlling the both the legislature and the presidency. He squandered that in midst a budfing recovery from a major recession with a takeover of one sixth of the economy with a morass of rules and regulations that nobody understood or could plan for that drug on and on and prevented the natural tendency for a recession that ended before he took office and resulted in the worst recovery on record.

 

[Ms_Ann]

But...Bush started it.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Lots of examples of his accomplishments. Chose this one for it's mostly true perspective. And I am giving a foreigners opinion. Many of you folk hate him. But outside the US he is quite well liked. Maybe 4-5 billion like him while maybe 300 million (world wide) dislike him. Considering the internationally reviled moron he replaced a guide dog for the blind could have done well.

http://www.snopes.com/barack-obama-accomplishments/

When history looks back on him sandwiched between the Moron and Il Donald, IMO he will shine!

His approval rating is in the mid-50s, which is really pretty high for a divided country. Especially if you account for about 33% who would hate him even if he were Jesus Christ. And those are the evangelicals.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Overall he is a nice guy. Clean personal life with a nice wife and kids. No personal scandals. No conflicts of interests.

The second war in Iraq is what triggered all the shit going down there. I would hold him to some part of the blame and accountability for Libya at most.

 

[Sean Renaud]

But...Bush started it.

Bush DID start it and that's not going to change. Trump is still going to be dealing with Bush's wars and the Bush/Obama tax cuts. Yeah Obama made them permanent but I remember that debate quite well, the Republicans pretty much litterally held a gun to his head and despite that deficits still fell.

 

[nerfhearder]

I don't think he's been a very good President but he hasn't been awful either. The peace prize was total bullshit but whatever. Like I really give a shit who wins a Nobel Prize. It's not like I was gonna get it instead. Still, bullshit.

Otherwise pretty much like most Presidents as far as I'm concerned. Some good stuff, some bad stuff but the country is still here and that's all that really matters.

 

[Ms_Ann]

TNPP has been a joke since they gave it to Arafat.

 

[ifrtbttrflys]

Morris Albert - Feelings

 

[JoanneA]

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/candh/images/2/27/Singing_Food.jpg

 

[OldJourno]

His approval rating is in the mid-50s, which is really pretty high for a divided country. Especially if you account for about 33% who would hate him even if he were Jesus Christ. And those are the evangelicals.

Who are these "evangelicals" you speak of? I read comments like this all the time, as if we're supposed to take on faith a high percentage of people who go to select churches hate other people.
Or maybe it's a high percentage of people who don't go to church who are the haters.
Either way, just the people you interact with every day should easily dispel that 33 percent notion.
Unless your opinion of people is just way low to begin with.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

His approval rating is in the mid-50s, which is really pretty high for a divided country. Especially if you account for about 33% who would hate him even if he were Jesus Christ. And those are the evangelicals.

C'mon Johnny, Trump lost all the polls.Hillary won all the polls.

 

[water505]

Because...?

He said so.

 

[contrifan32]

He has also been consistently awarded the coveted Salesmen Of The Year Award for scary black guns in the US.

 

[water505]

Yeah Obama made them permanent but I remember that debate quite well, the Republicans pretty much litterally held a gun to his head and despite that deficits still fell.

In English, please.

 

[Ishmael]

His approval rating is in the mid-50s, which is really pretty high for a divided country. Especially if you account for about 33% who would hate him even if he were Jesus Christ. And those are the evangelicals.

As it turns out the "approval ratings" are essentially meaningless WRT to effectiveness. All they mean is that he, as an individual, is liked. The votes of 2010, 2014, and this year are the measure of how the nation feels about his policies.

Ishmael

 

[Conager]

As it turns out the "approval ratings" are essentially meaningless WRT to effectiveness. All they mean is that he, as an individual, is liked. The votes of 2010, 2014, and this year are the measure of how the nation feels about his policies.

Ishmael

Democrats conflating his personal popularity as endorsement of their policies and platform has been a boon to Republicans all the way down to the local level. They lost seats, entire legislative houses, and governorships.

The only bright spot for them at all was his reelection in an economic environment that should have made that next to impossible. A goodly number of voters, who never voted before Obama was at the top of the ticket, didn't vote in the midterm between, and voted for him once again for reelection , are highly unlikely to have been policy wonks voting for him on policy.

There also has to be some portion of the middle of the electorate who were simply reluctant to fire the "historic" guy. Anecdotal man-on-the-street interviews consistently showed commentary about being proud to have done the "right thing" and supported his "historic" presidency. The same sentiment that some thought would propel Hillary into the White House on the strength of her (apparently) not having a penis.

As this latest election proved, there is a large number of people unwilling to tell a pollster something that they think the pollster might disapprove of. Consistently, when polled, the majority of the country disapproves of Barack Obama's policies. He pretty much lost during his entire presidency the right track/ wrong track poll. When asked, the same people are quick to follow up with but I like the guy personally.

With the drumbeat of "Racist!" we all heard for eight years it's well known that if you say anything negative about Barack Obama even if you try to stay studiously neutral and stick to policy issues you are a racist. It's no surprise at all that his popularity numbers are high- and completely irrelevant. I'm amazed that you can even get 40% of the country to say "You know what? I'm really not a fan of his."

The 10-point increase in his popularity to what is now positive territory in the last year can in large measure be attributed to the fact that he looks much better in a presidential suit than Clinton or Trump. Both of them were strongly disliked even by people who voted for them. Of course he's going to look decent by comparison. History will not be anywhere near so kind

 

[Sean Renaud]

As it turns out the "approval ratings" are essentially meaningless WRT to effectiveness. All they mean is that he, as an individual, is liked. The votes of 2010, 2014, and this year are the measure of how the nation feels about his policies.

Ishmael

Well he wasn't on the ballot and why wasn't 2012 a measure of how the nation feels about his policies?

 

[hashtag4]

Bush DID start it and that's not going to change. Trump is still going to be dealing with Bush's wars and the Bush/Obama tax cuts.

Yeah Obama made them permanent but I remember that debate quite well, the Republicans pretty much litterally held a gun to his head and despite that deficits still fell.

^^^
This

By tax cuts you mean tax cuts for the 1%?

 

[Ishmael]

Bush DID start it and that's not going to change. Trump is still going to be dealing with Bush's wars and the Bush/Obama tax cuts. Yeah Obama made them permanent but I remember that debate quite well, the Republicans pretty much litterally held a gun to his head and despite that deficits still fell.

Libya, Egypt, Syria, and the rise of ISIS in Iraq are the direct result of Obama policies. Bush didn't have a damn thing to do with any of them.

Ishmael

 

[hashtag4]

Libya, Egypt, Syria, and the rise of ISIS in Iraq are the direct result of Obama policies. Bush didn't have a damn thing to do with any of them.

Ishmael

That's what underguy kept saying too.

((Personally I'm a bit illiterate in politics, and most things that I know I heard them here first.
But it's nice to see a GB democrat and a GB republican talk about the bigger picture and being less partial and emotional than the typical "Trump is a bad racist (or a retard - Sean")" versus "No, Obama is".

 

[KingOrfeo]

Considering all he had to deal with when he came into office and after, Obama will go down in history as the best POTUS since Truman.