Freedom and Liberty banned in school

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'Freedom' banned in school?
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27319


A music teacher in an inner-city Michigan grade school is getting an earful from the higher-ups about the type of songs she can use in her classroom.

According to the April 17 issue of the Rutherford Institute's Insider, the teacher isn't in trouble for having the children sing lines from the latest Snoop Dogg rap album or even getting the tykes to trot out with something as strictly verboten as "Jesus Loves Me."

No, said the Insider, "school administrators informed her that she could not use any songs in class that contain the words 'freedom' or 'liberty.'" Why not, you might wonder. Simple: "Because some children in the school are not U.S. citizens."

I won't bother raising my hand before asking the following questions:


Since when did freedom and liberty become exclusively American?

Since when did they become so offensive to foreigners? Immigrants used to doff their digs and come here for those things.

What's more, since when do we give a rip if they are offensive to foreigners?
As imperfectly as we protect and defend our liberties, Americans should be proud of them. We should exult in the providence that took Hebraic legal tradition, hundreds of years of English common law, the guts, wits and wisdom of a few pasty, colonial landholders and distilled it into the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States.

While Rutherford is looking to take a whack at the offending educrats in Michigan, we should use this example as a temperature reading of how chilling the atmosphere is to traditional American values the nation over.

Beyond that, we need to reflect upon the fact that as traditionally American as those values may be, they are not exclusively American. Championing freedom around the globe is just as important as it is in the classrooms – which also provides a nice comparison with which to judge the public-school establishment:

The people most opposed to the propagation of freedom abroad are typically the dictators and strongmen who stand everything to lose if liberty should prevail in their countries. They value their power and pelf more than others' freedom.

So, dispensing with the hypersensitive hogwash, it's clear that the reason teachers are being forbidden to utter the words "freedom" and "liberty" has little to do with offending foreigners, as was suggested, and a lot more to do with the fact that educrats simply don't put a high value on freedom and liberty.

For these mini dictators, freedom and liberty are all well and good so far as they go, but they're not so important that we can't shut up about them if a few kids and their parents get flustered over the fact.

Back to reality for a moment: Even if people are so sensitive they break out in rashes over use of the words, gagging a pedagogue in this manner is hardly defensible.

This isn't as simple as some misguided separation-of-church-and-state argument, where folks quickly concede to a position at which the founders would have laughed out loud. This is like separating government from government:


We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness – That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed. …
Governments are instituted to secure liberty. So keeping a public school teacher from using the word "liberty" in a song is tantamount to the separation of the government and its very purpose for existing. As the founders were well-aware, this is precisely the junction at which tyranny arises in a society.

When the government values other things above the life, liberty and property of its citizens, the citizens had better watch out – you can read the rest of the Declaration to see what happens next.

Forbidding a teacher from chirping choruses with "freedom" won't roll us into a dictatorship tomorrow. But when public school officials – the people entrusted with your children's education – don't value freedom and traditional American liberties, you can rest assured that plenty of kids coming out of those propaganda mills won't either, and creating a few generations of children that don't respect basic liberties is the surest way to lose them.
 
Todd, you need to go down to the docks and find those nice sailors down there, and show them your big, crooked pee-pee.
 
Lol you should have made it clear that you were quoting from the article, Todd, and not spouting that sort of stuff yourself. However, it is stupid that the teacher was chided for having the kids sing about freedom and liberty simply because not all the students in the classroom were US citizens... Some educators really need to get their shit together -- you gotta wonder how they came to be in a position of teaching our children anything. Freaky. This takes political correctness to the fucking extreme.
 
No school was mentioned,

No inner city was named,

No reputable source of info.

Must be true.

Sorry, Todd.
 
I came to this country as an 8 year old and started school in the third grade. Everyday we had to recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Did anyone comment on how I, as a non-citizen, was being offended by being made to do this? No, because I could care less! I learnt the words and followed along with everyone else, without a second thought. It never bothered me or my family one iota. WTF happened during the intervening 20 years?
 
BustyTheClown said:
Lol you should have made it clear that you were quoting from the article, Todd, and not spouting that sort of stuff yourself. However, it is stupid that the teacher was chided for having the kids sing about freedom and liberty simply because not all the students in the classroom were US citizens... Some educators really need to get their shit together -- you gotta wonder how they came to be in a position of teaching our children anything. Freaky. This takes political correctness to the fucking extreme.

Some politicians need to get their shit together and leave the educators alone to do their job. I'd be willing to bet money that the directive came from an administrator who was being given orders by a school board member or other local politician.
 
If it's on the Internet, it must be true.

HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS DEMAND WARS IN EASIER-TO-FIND COUNTRIES

"How Come No One Fights in Big Famous Nations Anymore?" They Ask

Washington, D.C. — A delegation of American high school students today demanded the United States stop waging war in obscure nations such as Afghanistan, Kuwait, and Bosnia-Herzegovina, and instead attack places they've actually heard of, such as France, Australia, and Austria, unless, they said, those last two are the same country.

"Shouldn't we, as Americans, get to decide where wars are?" asked sophomore Kate Shermansky.

"People claim we don't know as much geography as our parents and grandparents, but it's so not our fault," Josh Beldoni, a senior at Fischer High School in Los Angeles, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "Back then they only had wars in, like, Germany and England, but we're supposed to know about places like Somalia and Massachusetts."

"Macedonia," corrected committee Chairman Carl Levin of Michigan.

"See?" said Beldoni.

Beldoni's frustration was shared by nearly three dozen students at the hearing, who blamed the U.S. military for making them look bad.

"I totally support our soldiers and all that, but I am seriously failing both geography and social studies because I keep getting asked to find Croatia or Yemvrekia, or whatever bizarre-o country we send troops to," said Amelia Nash, a junior at Clark High School in Orlando, Fla. "Can't we fight in, like, Italy? It's boot-shaped."

Chairman Levin however, explained that Italy was a U.S. ally, and that intervention is usually in response to a specific threat.

"OK, what about Arulco?" interrupted Tyler Boone, a senior at Bellevue High School in Wisconsin. "That's a country in Jagged Alliance 2 run by the evil Queen Deidranna. I'm totally familiar with that place. She's a major threat."

"Jagged...?" said Levin.

"Alliance. It's a computer game."

"Well, no," Levin answered. "We can't attack a fictional country."

"Yeah right," Boone mumbled. "Like Grenada was real."

The students' testimony was supported by a cross-section of high school geography teachers, who urged the committee to help lay a solid foundation for America's young people by curtailing any intervention abroad.

"Since the anti-terror war began, most of my students can now point to Afghanistan on a map, which is fine, but those same kids still don't know the capitals of Nevada and Ohio," said Richard Gerber, who teaches at Rhymony High School in Atlanta. "I think we need to cut back on our activities overseas and take care of business at home, and if that means invading Tallahassee (Fla.) or Trenton (N.J.) so that students learn where they are, so be it."

"I've always wanted to stick it to Hartford (Conn.)," said Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island. "Oh shit, is my microphone on?"

The hearing adjourned after six hours. An estimated 2,000 more students were expected to hold a march in the nation's capital, but forgot which city it was in.
 
Ass kissing moment

Laurel, you rock! but then you knew that already.
 
For me it's a shame to see time and money being wasted on such a frivolous pursuit when there are so many more serious problems that need to be addressed and worked on with the school systems.
 
lobito said:
Ass kissing moment

Laurel, you rock! but then you knew that already.

But I can never hear it enough. I'm sorta insecure like that.
 
Here's how I'm going to get myself quoted all over the Internet: I'm going to write a bunch of totally fictitious anecdotes about ridiculous people doing ridiculous things. I won't even pretend to do silly journalistic stuff like cite sources or name names. At the end of every "article", I'll blame the stupidity on "political correctness", "gays", "liberals", and Clinton. Then I'm going to post these on a website with a name including the terms "Fair and Balanced", "Truth", and/or "Patriotic". Think it'll do well?
 
Laurel said:
Here's how I'm going to get myself quoted all over the Internet: I'm going to write a bunch of totally fictitious anecdotes about ridiculous people doing ridiculous things. I won't even pretend to do silly journalistic stuff like cite sources or name names. At the end of every "article", I'll blame the stupidity on "political correctness", "gays", "liberals", and Clinton. Then I'm going to post these on a website with a name including the terms "Fair and Balanced", "Truth", and/or "Patriotic". Think it'll do well?

thats how http://www.commondreams.org does so well
 
My students recite the Pledge every day. My school has many international students in attendance. I don't ask them to learn our pledge. What I do ask, is that they show a quiet respect for our right to say our pledge in an American class room. There is no objection to this from any of them.
Sadly, I know many teachers who do not have the opportunity to this. School boards and regulations intervene with what a teacher is allowed to do. Sometimes in a far more negative way than a positive way. Students tend to only learn what teachers are willing to teach them. Do I teach them that America is faultless? Ofcourse not. There are many lessons to be learned to the contrary. Do I teach them to have pride in our country? Yes. Do I think it's wrong to promote America in my classes? Never.
 
Teen Exposed To Violence, Profanity, Adult Situations By Family

BROWNSVILLE, TX—According to the conservative watchdog group Family Research Council, the home of 15-year-old Beth Arnott contains violence, profanity, adult situations, and other material "wholly unsuitable" for those 16 and under.
 

 

      "That house is filled with inappropriate material that sets a poor example for the impressionable youths living there," said Family Research Council president Kenneth Connor, citing 44 instances of domestic violence, adult language, nudity, and graphic sexual content in the Brownsville home in the past month alone. "This is hardly the sort of family we should be exposing our nation's children to."

      Connor noted that Beth's stepfather, 43-year-old Randy Skowron, frequently walks around the house in an open bathrobe, inadvertently exposing his genitalia to Beth. He also cited numerous incidents of Skowron hitting Beth's brother Ronnie with an open hand for being "all mouthy and disrespectful." Beth herself was subjected to a similar act of violence when she was caught shoplifting a Victoria's Secret bra at Valle Vista Mall.

      Other inappropriate material to which Beth has been exposed includes frequent use of the term "skank-ass bitch," nightly binges of Mad Dog 20/20, and an incident in which she inadvertently stumbled across Skowron and her mother in coitus just minutes after the pair had been throwing kitchen appliances at each other.

      "The family is the most important factor when it comes to promoting family-friendly themes," Connor said. "The Arnotts may pay lip service to being a pro-family family, but their actions speak otherwise."

      Author and critic Michael Medved, a leading proponent of stricter moral standards, agreed.

      "These are graphic sexual themes which could take a girl, just coming into an understanding of her own sexuality, and twist her around until she doesn't know right from wrong," said Medved, co-author of Saving Childhood: Protecting Our Children From The National Assault On Innocence. "I feel sorry for Beth, for her childhood has been lost and her innocence assaulted."
 
Above: A parental-advisory sticker warns of a family not recommended for children 16 and under.

      "We challenge the Arnotts to get serious about the vital role they play in shaping America's culture," said U.S. Rep. Steve Largent (R-OK), who has proposed legislation requiring warning labels on non-family-friendly families. "Look at the Petersons right next door. With their regular attendance at church, frequent family outings to Chuck E. Cheese's, and weekly Sunday-night Scrabble games, the Petersons are the sort of wholesome, socially redemptive family this country needs more of. Why must we put up with this vile Arnott filth when there are such wonderful alternatives literally right next door?"

      Following Largent's lead, concerned Brownsville residents are calling for the placement of a parental-advisory sticker on the Arnotts' front door which warns that interaction with the family is not recommended for children 16 or younger. In addition, locals have petitioned Cat Marine Machine Tooling, Skowron's employer, to fire the man, threatening to withdraw their patronage if the shop continues to "endorse the deplorable actions in Beth's home by keeping Mr. Skowron on the payroll."

      One neighbor, wishing to remain anonymous, said: "We don't want to censor anybody, but we have an obligation to the community and to our children. We can monitor our kids within our own home, but we can't protect them when they go out into the world every day and are exposed to sex, violence, and drug use by families like that."

      For all the controversy her family has stirred, Beth remains nonplussed.

      "It's not a big deal," said Beth, smoking a Kool cigarette stolen from her mother's purse. "Just because I see Mom giving Randy blow jobs and Ronnie huffing paint don't mean I'm gonna do that shit. I can think for myself."
 
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