Free Martha

[shereads]

It occurs to me that I'm in suspense as Martha Stewart awaits her jury's verdict.

Why do I care?

Maybe because she's being targeted for having done what anyone but a fool would do: your broker calls and says the executives of a company in which you hold stock are dumping theirs; he recommends that you dump yours too. Do you sell? Of course not; you turn him in to the SEC and take the loss.

Ha.

Also, I care because no one else can explain to me how to properly gold-leaf a roast turkey. Should I ever decide to do so.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Also, I care because no one else can explain to me how to properly gold-leaf a roast turkey. Should I ever decide to do so.

How high is this on your list of things to do?

~lucky

 

[A7inchPhildo]

That was a nice way to sum it up. Surely you know what she did was just wrong, in so many ways.

I was not a big fan of Martha, but I thought she had a good business attitude and some creative ways to prosper.

The bottom line for me is she stole plain and simple stole a lot of money and she knew she was going to do it before the others started to drop their stocks. It had been planed and that is why she is on trial.

No mercy from me, not for what she did to all those innocent people.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Does it seem wierd to any one that between Enron, aurther Anderson and he worldcom The feds are making a show trial outa Martha?

It's almost as if they believe this proves they are on the ball.

-Colly

 

[Guest]

I've only seen her as a guest on Julia Child's program. Julia made fun of her obsession with detail; made me larf.

I don't care much about the case except for the fact that there are more important persons to prosecute and that MS seems to be labeled a bitch, which she may be and is not relevant, but she seems as good a business person as any man.

Does anyone think she's done worse than a Donald Trump?

my two pesos, Perdita

 

[shereads]

The bottom line for me is she stole plain and simple stole a lot of money and she knew she was going to do it before the others started to drop their stocks. It had been planed and that is why she is on trial.

Actually, that charge was dropped. There is evidence that she sold the stock when it reached the price she had pre-agreed with her broker. She is on trial exclusively on the charges of lying to investigators about the reason she sold her stock, because she gave conflicting accounts when she realized she was in trouble.

She's such small potatoes compared to the corporate board members and financial officers who actually plan and carry out these things, some of whom are in the White House now, watching Martha's trial on television and eating pretzels.'

That's the injustice that bugs me.

I also feel that she's targeted because it's fun for people to see a powerful business bitch brought low. I've never liked her, and when I ask myself why, I'm uncomfortable with the answer. Neither men nor most women like it when a woman takes the role we admire in men: ruthless entrepeneur, rich as Croesus.

On the other hand, it doesn't bug me half as much as some other stuff. It's good to have a diversion, though.

 

[shereads]

Does anyone think she's done worse than a Donald Trump?

His hair! He should be prosecuted for having such awful hair, when he more than anyone could afford to have an international summit conference of men's hair stylists to come up with a look for him.

Is it odd that one of the most popular television shows this year - at a time when long-term unemployment is at its highest level since the Great Depression, 8 million workers are unemployed, and nearly half of people polled say they're in fear of losing their jobs - is The Apprentice?

I've watched it, and it's wicked, inexcusable fun. But I neither envy his lifestyle nor find it amusing when he delivers the punch line each week. Instead of voting a survivor off the island, he tells the losing contestant,

"You're fired."

And America loves it. He says in Newsweek magazine that people yell it to him on the streets and give a thumbs-up. Are we masochists?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I'm against rich people committing crimes to get even richer. Fry her, I say!




But don't forget to baste her every second hour...

 

[Guest]

Flicka, what kind of cooking school did you go to? You don't baste when frying. If you roast her, then you can baste.

P.

 

[A7inchPhildo]

Actually, that charge was dropped. There is evidence that she sold the stock when it reached the price she had pre-agreed with her broker. She is on trial exclusively on the charges of lying to investigators about the reason she sold her stock, because she gave conflicting accounts when she realized she was in trouble.

Thanks Sher,

I do not have the patients to watch something as silly as MS trial, OJ, whatever if she was not a celeberty they would run a much quieter trial.

I did not know they dropped those charges on her case. Not that it is going to change my day in any direction. I still know there is more to the story than the public know about, so the bits and pieces the media feeds I try not to pay attention.

My thoughts are she must have done something wrong. Every good business person has some kind of skeleton in the closet.

Leave my buddy Donald out of this. His hair is a capital punishment. But the mans business is mostly ligit. He filed Bankrupt and after his bankruptcy he did still pay most of his debters almost 500 milion. Not many people would do that if they didn't have to.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Flicka, what kind of cooking school did you go to? You don't baste when frying. If you roast her, then you can baste.

P.

We call it "fry in the oven". I'm using my traditional yes-English-really-IS-my-second-language, get-out-of-jail-for-free card here.

And I'm excellent at cooking. Everything other than porridge, that is.

 

[Boxlicker101]

If I were to make a list of all the crimes it is possible to commit and rank them in order of the most heinous, at the top would be various abduction, rape, torture crimes, especially involving children. Way down, very close to the bottom of the list, down around jay-walking or loitering or vagrancy would be insider trading by someone who is not really an insider, suc as Martha Stewart. Probably at the very bottom would be lying to a government official when not under oath.

The trial is in the news the way it is because Martha Stewart is a celebrity, much like the trials of Winona Ryder, Mike Tyson, O. J. Simpson, Michael Jackson, Robert Blake, Kobe Bryant and others I could think of if I really tried. There are some people whoi like toread about the troubles of famous persons, and the news media pander to these people. Personally, I don't care one way or another, as long as the guilty are punished and the innocent are protected

 

[destinie21]

I don't care about martha stewart but I must say Shere's poll fetish is having an adverse effect on me as I am now a voting addict.

 

[shereads]

Try posting a poll! Watching the color bars build is rather like being God and watching the tide come in after you've created the oceans...Well, no, it's not like that at all, but it's easy.

 

[destinie21]

Try posting a poll! Watching the color bars build is rather like being God and watching the tide come in after you've created the oceans...Well, no, it's not like that at all, but it's easy.

lol I think you're just making sure we all understand the complicated in and outs of voting so that co me November not on US citizen in The AH can calim ignorance re: the voting system.

 

[Guest]

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Fried overbearing pretentious bitch - it's a good thing.

Lime

Does that go better with rice or steamed veggies?

~lucky

 

[Guest]

Does that go better with rice or steamed veggies?

I'd have tequila. P.

 

[Just_John1]

Martha Martha Martha

Martha is getting fried because she did exactly what every upstanding business school tells every student to do. Use every asset you have to put yourself ahead of your competition, buy low sell high and re-invest the profits. Insider trading is against the law because the SEC are afraid that the playing field would not be even and that someone would be able to control and therefore profit from the markets. It still happens.

Why persecute Martha? por encouragement les autres (said in my very worst French accent which can be REALLY bad!). So you get down to fairness, prosecute the guilty, protect the innocent and all in fairness.

Is it in fairness to fry Martha stewart as an example for others to prevent the same heinous crime? What's heinous is Enron, corporate stacking and shell games, cooking the books to attract investors while poking holes in the bottom of the boat so you can watch the whole thing sink in glorious technicolor later. Martha had what 4,000 shares of stock? give me a freeking break! I can't tell you how many investors watch what the major investors in a corporation do as a barometer of what to do. Do I stay in Do I get out. If the president of a firm is cashing out, you can bet that something bad's going to happen.

A stockbroker's job is to protect you from getting surprised while the CEO is getting out. That's what they do! Insider trading is more related to inflating worth artificially cashing in at the peak and then ducking for cover during the fall, or if your REALLY good, making more money during the fall. Finding out someone is bailing and following their example isn't illegal, its good business.

But I'm particularly interested in 7 inch's response that she stole money? From who? And, why should Martha get fried more than everyone else, because of her fame and the fact that it makes a better example? Not the basis our system was supposedly built on. And what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? You've already condemmed her by saying she must have done something wrong while making the comment in the same breath that you know there's more to this than the public knows...

I don't mean to rant... well maybe I do mean to rant, but not at you 7inch... Just my opinion of the issue...

The only real thing Martha ever did wrong was have her show on TV at a time where I was forced to learn how to gold leaf a chicken... or was that a duck? instead of watching the soccer game. I knew someone would get even with her for that. Of course the fact that I was trying to impress the lovely one and convince her to take all of her clothes off (they're a fire hazard when you cook you know) by showing her I was sensitive enough to watch a cooking show shouldn't be held against her I guess.

I'll creep back into my shadows now... (patting me on my head... "there there now... take this... it'll make it all better...)

JJ1

 

[lucky-E-leven]

I'd have tequila. P.

Good point. Cheers!

Wonder what Martha would have to say about the etiquette behind:

LICK IT! SLAM IT! SUCK IT!

Just a thought.

~lucky

 

[shereads]

lol I think you're just making sure we all understand the complicated in and outs of voting so that co me November not on US citizen in The AH can calim ignorance re: the voting system.

This would be a cool way to conduct the vote, wouldn't it? If you could see a real-time measurement of who's ahead and by how far, would it mean more people vote? Or fewer? Or would too many people jam the server by holding their vote until they learn who the underdog is?

It would certainly be useful in a 3-way race. Nader could be allowed to run as an independent, but the server wouldn't accept any votes for him until the final two hours in each time zone. That way, his faithful could see a clear choice between giving Bush the election or disappointing Ralph.

 

[Guest]

ella, I think that's brilliant. It could be programmed so that everyone has a window of time to vote, fairly spread throughout the country so that many e.coast voters would vote late and w.coasters early. It would keep the server(s) from crashing and drive the networks nuts. P.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Can someone explain this tome. My broker calls and say, by the way, the board member of Consolidated Dirt are dumping all thier shares.

What the heck do they expect me to do? Go OH boy, that was a bad investment. I guess i'll wait till my shares aren't worth anything to sell. Gimme a break.

As to lying to government regulators, I got news for them, it isn't illegal. Not unless you are under oath or submit an affidavit.

-Colly

 

[destinie21]

This would be a cool way to conduct the vote, wouldn't it? If you could see a real-time measurement of who's ahead and by how far, would it mean more people vote? Or fewer? Or would too many people jam the server by holding their vote until they learn who the underdog is?

It would certainly be useful in a 3-way race. Nader could be allowed to run as an independent, but the server wouldn't accept any votes for him until the final two hours in each time zone. That way, his faithful could see a clear choice between giving Bush the election or disappointing Ralph.

It would be cool but then if things didn't go Bush's way we'd probably have to wait through months of investigating faulty servers not to mention his claim that the voter's with carpal tunnel misclicked in fits of pain and on and on until the electoral college finally decided that....

whoa taking a step back I realize I'm way way bitter
on a related note I almost misspelt bitter and with the typo it read butter.

 

[shereads]

Fried overbearing pretentious bitch - it's a good thing.

Lime

Is there a special fork?