Frankee and Eamon

sweetnpetite

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Currently I am Jamin to the uber deep :rolleyes: "Fuck You (I don't want you back)" and the even smoother answerback, "Fuck U Right Back"

I've heard a lot of critisisms of these two songs, but I think they are a great example of pure raw pain. I love the way there are two sides. Nothing beats a good musical dual. :p

I just heard these 2 songs for the first time this week, even though they were Billboard chart toppers last year. Enjoy.

http://www.eamonmusic.com/ (#5)

Whoa oh oh
Ooh hooh
No No No

[Verse 1:]
See, I dont know why I liked you so much
I gave you all, of my trust
I told you, I loved you, now thats all down the drain
Ya put me through pain, I wanna let u know how I feel

[Chorus:]
Fuck what I said it dont mean shit now
Fuck the presents might as well throw em out
Fuck all those kisses, they didn't mean jack
Fuck you, you hoe, I dont want you back

Fuck what I said it dont mean shit now
Fuck the presents might as well throw em out
Fuck all those kisses they didn't mean jack
Fuck you, you hoe, I dont want you back

[Verse 2:]
You thought, you could
Keep this shit from me, yeah
Ya burnt bitch, I heard the story
Ya played me, ya even gave him head
Now ya askin for me back
Ya just another act, look elsewhere
Cuz ya done with me

Fuck what I said it dont mean shit now
Fuck the presents might as well throw em out
Fuck all those kisses they didn't mean jack
Fuck you, you hoe, I dont want you back

Fuck what I said it dont mean shit now
Fuck the presents might as well throw em out
Fuck all those kisses they didn't mean jack
Fuck you, you hoe, I dont want you back

Oh oh
Uh huh yeah
Oh oh
Uh huh yeah
Oh oh
Uh huh yeah
Oh oh
Uh huh yeah

Ya questioned, did I care
You could ask anyone, I even said
Ya were my great one
Now its, over, but I do admit I'm sad.
It hurts real bad, I cant sweat that, cuz I loved a hoe

Fuck what I said it dont mean shit now
Fuck the presents might as well throw em out
Fuck all those kisses they didn't mean jack
Fuck you, you hoe, I dont want you back

Oh oh
Uh huh yeah
Oh oh
Uh huh yeah
Oh oh
Uh huh yeah
Oh oh
Uh huh yeah

Rebuttal

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Frankee/

Oh oh
Oooh
No no no

(You know there is two sides to every story)

See I don't know why you cryin' like a bitch
Talkin' shit like a snitch
Why you write a song 'bout me
If you really didn't care
You wouldn't wanna share
Tellin' everybody just how you feel

Fuck what I did was your fault somehow
Fuck the presents, I threw all that shit out
Fuck all the cryin' you didn't mean jack
Well guess what yo, fuck you right back

Fuck what I did was your fault somehow
Fuck the presents, I threw all that shit out
Fuck all the cryin' you didn't mean jack
Well guess what yo, fuck you right back

You thought you could really make me moan
I had better sex all alone (ha ha ha ha)
I had to do your friend
Now you want me to come back
You must be smokin' crack
Im goin' else where and thats a fact

Fuck all those nights I moaned real loud
Fuck it, I faked it, aren't you proud
Fuck all those nights you thought you broke my back
Well guess what yo, your sex was wack

Fuck all those nights I moaned real loud
Fuck it, I faked it, aren't you proud
Fuck all those nights you thought you broke my back
Well guess what yo, your sex was wack

Whoa whoa
Uh uh yea

Whoa whoa
Uh uh yea

Whoa whoa
Uh uh yea

Whoa whoa
Uh uh yea

You questioned did I care
Maybe I would howl if you wanna come to me
Now it's over
But I do admit i'm glad I didn't catch your crabs
I can't swear bad cause I got to go

Fuck what I did was your fault somehow
Fuck the presents, I threw all that shit out
Fuck all the cryin' you didn't mean jack
Well guess what yo, fuck you right back.
 
They were very big in England last year. I hated both of them. Thought they were just utterly tacky and said more about the singer than about the sung about.

JMHO

The Earl
 
IMHO, Harry Neilson expressed those same general sentiments, but did so a bit more succintly:

You broken my heart

And torn it apart.

So, fuck you.



Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Rumple Foreskin said:
IMHO, Harry Neilson expressed those same general sentiments, but did so a bit more succintly
Birgit Nilson did it best, but in German, and she took 5 hours, and then she died. Nevermind.

Perdita
 
perdita said:
Birgit Nilson did it best, but in German, and she took 5 hours, and then she died. Nevermind.

Perdita
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.
 
sweetnpetite:
I felt like voyeur scum evesdropping on a tender interlude between two obviously committed lovers.
 
I remember those... it was a bit like having a sleazy tabloid read out loud, to music.

Hey, there's an idea.
 
Liar said:
I remember those... it was a bit like having a sleazy tabloid read out loud, to music.

Hey, there's an idea.

Pretty much all music is about private thoughts and emotions, isn't it?
 
sweetnpetite said:
Pretty much all music is about private thoughts and emotions, isn't it?

Expressing emotions and thoughts via song is classy and personal. Expressing a desire to tell the world that your ex specifically was shite in bed is tacky.

I'd say the first one would've been okay if it wasn't for the fact that he openly publicised it as being about her. It damned it in my eyes.

The Earl
 
sweetnpetite said:
Pretty much all music is about private thoughts and emotions, isn't it?
Yep, but it's a matter of doing it with dignity.
 
Rumple Foreskin said:
IMHO, Harry Neilson expressed those same general sentiments, but did so a bit more succintly:

You broken my heart

And torn it apart.

So, fuck you.



Rumple Foreskin :cool:

and managed to do it without making derogatory remarks about over half the human race .

What is is it with all this "ho" shit in music and alleged music, and why do women not only fail to reject it, but embrace it?
 
davidwatts said:
and managed to do it without making derogatory remarks about over half the human race .

What is is it with all this "ho" shit in music and alleged music, and why do women not only fail to reject it, but embrace it?
those aren't women, exactly...
 
davidwatts said:
and managed to do it without making derogatory remarks about over half the human race .

What is is it with all this "ho" shit in music and alleged music, and why do women not only fail to reject it, but embrace it?


Um, he's calling her a ho because she cheated on him. It's not a generic statement about women, it's specific. According to the song, she 'even went down on him.' Most people I know would call their ex a ho (or a slut or a whore) if she cheated. At least once in a moment of anger.
 
sweetnpetite said:
Um, he's calling her a ho because she cheated on him. It's not a generic statement about women, it's specific. According to the song, she 'even went down on him.' Most people I know would call their ex a ho (or a slut or a whore) if she cheated. At least once in a moment of anger.
Yeah, but write a song, record it, make a video and release it as a single, without even once stopping to consider, "is this not just really silly"? Man, that's some majorly lengthy rage fit.
 
sweetnpetite said:
Um, he's calling her a ho because she cheated on him. It's not a generic statement about women, it's specific. According to the song, she 'even went down on him.' Most people I know would call their ex a ho (or a slut or a whore) if she cheated. At least once in a moment of anger.

Never had the displeasure of having that happen to me, but the only word that would come to mind would likely be goodbye.

I wasn't referring so much to that pungent prose that was quoted as to the general ho and bitch tone that so often comes up when women are referred to. Are there similar terms for males that transgress, or do they have to take the generic terms that would fit either gender?

A woman who cheats is a slut.
A man who cheats is a 'playa'.

I understand.

Funny that on a site filled with every sex act imaginable performed with every species that ever existed, some of which I contributed to, it took reading the lyrics to those fuck you songs to trip my trigger.

Don't mind me. I ain't drunk, I'm just drinkin' ;)

Continue to get down and pardon the interruption. :nana: :nana: :nana:
 
Liar said:
Yeah, but write a song, record it, make a video and release it as a single, without even once stopping to consider, "is this not just really silly"? Man, that's some majorly lengthy rage fit.

It's a song! You write it and sing it and other people listen to it and identify with it. It's about universal experiences. I know there's a lot of hype that it's supposedly about a specific person, but I don't believe that. I think that was a publicity stunt.

I don't see how it's any different from people on Lit writing out there fantasies about people that they know (with names changed). The song doesn't call anyone out, it's just a song about something that millions of people go through and how some of them feel about it.
 
Millions of people go through it, but millions of people don't necessarily express themselves in quite this way about it...

These lyrics say nada to me emotionally. They tell me of a couple of young dumb asshats with inflated egos and minimal vocabularies. I can't tell if anything they are talking about comes close to an emotion I would ever share- doesn't sound like love, it sounds like a squabble over who broke who's Barbie doll, there's nothing that shows that either of these poeple care about anyone else's feelings, or have have any empathy for another person.
they offer no new way to think about a broken heart, no handle for sympathy, no fellow-feeling. Not for me, anyway- I would say- not for millions of us.
 
sweetnpetite said:
It's a song!
Yes, it's a song.

I can write a dead serious song about the color of my toenail clippings. That's doesn't mean that it's not a very silly song, that would embarrass me if I sing it in public (since I'm not, like, Tom Green), and therefore should never see the light of day. :D
 
Stella_Omega said:
Millions of people go through it, but millions of people don't necessarily express themselves in quite this way about it...

These lyrics say nada to me emotionally. They tell me of a couple of young dumb asshats with inflated egos and minimal vocabularies.

There are times when you just don't feel very eloquent. I think it speaks to raw emotion, unvarnished anger, and unpretentious sentiment.

Millions of people with broken hearts are 'dumb asshats with minimal vocabulary' and I guess they can identify with the simplicity and straighforwardness of the song.

Most song lyrics don't leave me very interested, it's when they are mixed with the singers voice, the melody, the instruments and so forth. Very very very very few songs are shakespearean sonnets.

oh well. it went to number 1, so obviously somebody liked it.
 
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