Forgetting the Alamo

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Can’t recall the thread, but not too long ago I posted “Fuck the Alamo, I can’t believe they’ve made another movie on it.” I received a nasty, personal reposte which did not merit further discussion. Today I’ve already expressed misgivings to an AH friend about posting something now, but this particular essay gives me courage; it’s written by a compadre.

I go to films often enough just to be entertained or escape, but I want to let my friends know what’s behind this particular type of entertainment. (Note: I'm not going to discuss or argue history, statistics or American racism; this is only meant to be an informative post, however 'biased' one might take it.)

The url is at the bottom, plus one by a U.K. critic. - Perdita
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Remember the Alamo, sure, as long as we remember it for what it really is: a symbol, for many, of something sinister

by Oscar Villalon, Chronicle Book Editor, SF Chronicle, 4.12.2004

As the guy who wrote on the billboard at 24th and Valencia sometime in the night last week phrased it, before what he wrote in orange spray paint was papered over with a new canvas, F___ 'The Alamo'.

To many Mexican Americans, there's no more succinct, if impolite, wording to get across how repulsed one of the biggest minority groups in the country—and certainly the largest in California and Texas—is by that dilapidated mission-turned-fortress-turned-tourist-attraction in San Antonio, Texas. What's intriguing, though, given the release Friday of the big-budget movie "The Alamo," is how many people apparently don't get this. (Aside to the studio's marketing department: Have you lost your minds? Putting up an advertisement for "The Alamo" the size of a boxing ring in the Mission District?) [The Mission is the “Hispanic” neighborhood of SF; the actual mission/church, of San Francisco de Assis is there.]

Any discussion about the movie so far, whether in reviews or articles about its making, has been about how it's a new-and-improved version of past depictions of that battle. This time we see that there were Tejanos fighting with the Texans at the Alamo. We see that Travis and Bowie had slaves with them during the siege. We see that more likely than not, Davy Crockett didn't go down swinging. And we see that not all the troops in Gen. Santa Ana's army were craven cowards. Things were ... complex.

As important as those tweaks are to the story, and as correct as it is to discuss them, the concern at this point in our history shouldn't be so much how the actual events at the Alamo are (or have been) presented on the screen. Dress up a bunch of baby chimps in period costumes, give them spark-shooting plastic ray guns and include them in the fall of the Alamo, too, for all that verisimilitude matters.

No, the problem is that the Alamo, like the Confederate flag, is a symbol of something much greater, much more sinister than itself. It has come to stand for what's happened long after the events of March 6, 1836. It's why the words "Remember the Alamo!" can make certain barrooms go quiet and a mouth go dry before it has the chance to spit.

Despite the facts, past movie adaptations of the Alamo—and so many other historic events involving white America and the Other—have been little more than propaganda for the myth of "white man good, brown man bad," problematic at best because it's what a majority of our country wanted to believe for a variety of cultural and political reasons. So, that you would have John Wayne turning himself into an Aryan Roman candle in "The Alamo" (1960) isn't surprising. In the end, that battle has—and perhaps can only—come to be a glorification of (white) Texan sacrifice, no matter how many allowances any film, including this new one, makes for the truth. The Alamo remains a fiery cascade of bullets, blades and cannonballs that casts into shadow the struggle Mexican Americans would go through to exist with dignity in the United States—a struggle that continues today.

With that in mind, and going on the assumption that most Americans get their history lessons from two-hour-plus prestige films, let's revisit the date of the battle, which is a key scene from "The Alamo,'' and see how we can get the point across another way. Imagine we could stop the picture mid-action, the actors stuck in time as if they were all tagged in a giant game of freeze tag. Then a pleasant-looking woman comes into the frame, hands clasped before her, and delivers a public service announcement, saying something like:

"Hi. Sorry to interrupt the movie. But the producers of 'The Alamo' have asked me, in the spirit of good faith, to sorta explain a little more of what you're seeing here.

"So, OK. Behind me you see these Tejanos getting ready to give up their lives for the cause of Texas independence. But you should probably know a couple of things. As soon as Texas gets its independence in 1836 and joins the United States nine years later, all the relatives and the descendants of those poor guys back there will become second-class citizens. Many Tejanos will literally be terrorized by their fellow Texans in the years to come—over land, over opposing slavery.

"And Mexican Americans in general throughout the Southwest, in Texas and in California in particular, will also experience oppression. Segregation, for example, and of every stripe: segregated movie houses, segregated schools, segregated swimming pools. You name it. If you've ever seen 'Giant,' you know what I'm talking about. In fact, a lot of people don't know this, but the first successful case for desegregation in schools wasn't Brown vs. Board of Education, but Roberto Alvarez vs. the Board of Trustees of the Lemon Grove School District. This happened down in San Diego in 1931. True story.

"OK. I see some arms starting to shake here, what with the muskets being heavy and authentic and all, so let's get back to the movie. You good people enjoy."

If only. But that's not going to happen, and it's doubtful the other side of the story will be addressed in the commentary on the DVD. What's most likely, frankly, is that outside the Mexican American community, nobody is likely to notice the head-shaking frustration these Americans have with the Alamo.

They're not likely to spot the long trickle of blood that leads from there to the Texas Rangers cruising through the streets of border towns with the bodies of Mexicans and Mexican Americans strapped to the hood and trunk of cars as though they were trophy deer. (Between 1914 and 1919, the Rangers killed about 5,000 "Hispanics"; a figure so gruesome that in 1919 legislation was passed in Texas, at the urging of Rep. Jose T. Canales, to reform the organization.)

When they see "The Alamo," audiences are unlikely to understand that through the gates of a ruined mission comes a legacy of "white" America asserting cultural superiority over the "losers" from Texas' war of independence. Or that the Alamo is in many ways like Kosovo: the site of a battle where the eventual victor took a serious defeat, a losing engagement that's been fetishized to justify treating another people as a historic threat, not to be fully trusted.

They won't see how in our ever-evolving country, there's little place for reverence toward a symbol that says more about our shortcomings than our virtues. Like the other thing the guy who spray-painted "The Alamo" billboard wrote, "Forget 'The Alamo.' "

Chron url | Guardian review
 
The people have voted with their wallets, I believe: "The Alamo" pulled in only $9.2 million on its opening weekend. By way of comparison, "Hellboy" in its *second* weekend pulled in more than $11 million.

$9.2 million is absolute crap, especially on a $90 million budget, and since no one outside the USA is likely to be very interested in the subject matter, they are not going to make it up overseas. This flick is apparently a gigantic loser on all counts.

MM
 
Dita.

As a historian I would like to point out to you that this article is just as one sided as the depictions of the event that it seeks to "explain".

The Alamo is remembered not so much for it being "white" america asserting it's dominance. After all, the Mexicans clearly won the battle in tactical terms. It is remembered, like many battles, more because a few men stood against many, and fought bravely, in the face of certain death (Santa Anna was not magnanimous in victory) for their beliefs.

Continued explotation of the battle for movies is a function of the fascination most hold for the lost cause, the battle versus incredible odds, and the conviction of men fighting against all odds.

If you wish to view the War of Texas independence as nothing more than a step in American imperialism, that's well within the bounds of historic fact. But the men who fought there and died there, are deserving of being remembered for their stand, thier bravery and tenacity. What has been done in thier name, done to thier memory, is not something they could control. They were ordinary men, who stayed and gave their lives for a cause they believed in. They do not deserve to be forgotten, anymore than they deserve to be deified. I, like you, wish Hollywood would let them rest in peace, which they deserve, rather than reviving them again and again for commercial gain.

You have every right to be sick of movies about the Alamo, but the men who fought & died there do not deserve to be forgotten. At least, they don't in my opinion.

-Colly
 
Colly, thanks. You know I respect your views and thinking. This is a bit too personal a subject for me though. Just to be clear, your comments were not at all offensive to me personally.

Perdita

Edited so no one thinks I want to argue.

Edit #2: Too late, no problemo. :)
 
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perdita said:
Colly, thanks. You know I respect your views and thinking. This is a bit too personal a subject for me though. I will presume some of the white men at the Alamo thought they were dying for a reason, but too many Mexicans have and are still dying in this country for no good reason, including many of my blood relations.

Just to be clear, your comments were not at all offensive to me personally.

Perdita

I understand issues being too personal very well. I meant no offense & I am glad you took none. I certainly accept that the issue is far closer to you than it could ever be to me and that any attempt on my part to press my points would be foolish & presumptive in the extreme.

:heart: :rose: :heart:

-Colly
 
Perdita,

Hang in there. Being the descendent of both anglo's and native Americans who were on the losing side of many different conflicts. I may have an inkling of your emotions on this subject. But as Colly pointed out, if a symbol of the oppression suffered by Hispanics at the hands of anglo's is needed, logically it should be something other than a Mexican victory.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Los Alamo~

Seniora Perdita~

Gracias por la azar hasta expreso mi opinion!
La cine parecer ser uno hombre's opini'on de
guerra largo hace. Es mass por dinero que verdad!!
Hecho es no importante como riqueza y popularidad.
Triste pero verdadero. No materia cuantos ellos
burlarse, el verdad es triste.

The truth is like a lone pepple on a vast beach
of sand. Maybe it can not be seen clearly but it
is there just the same...to one day be found.

Buenos noches amor perdita!!!
 
Seniora perdita~

Mi conocimiento es poco...

mi respetar por tu es grande!!!

Gracias seniora perdita!!:rose:
 
perdita said:
They're not likely to spot the long trickle of blood that leads from there to the Texas Rangers cruising through the streets of border towns with the bodies of Mexicans and Mexican Americans strapped to the hood and trunk of cars as though they were trophy deer. (Between 1914 and 1919, the Rangers killed about 5,000 "Hispanics"; a figure so gruesome that in 1919 legislation was passed in Texas, at the urging of Rep. Jose T. Canales, to reform the organization.)

I didn't know that about the Texas Rangers, Perdita. Which surprises me, because I didn't much like living in Texas for the few years I was there, and I fortified my dislike of the place by reading all the iconoclastic history I could find.

I have a picture someplace of my dog performing her, um, early morning toilette in front of the Alamo. I didn't plan it that way - I'm not that mean or that eager to be tarred and feathered - but when the moment came, I was happy to have a camera. Still, when I went inside the fort I felt such sadness. Despite the clutter of souvenir stands, the theme-park cheesiness, and the sanitized-for-your-protection version of history taught by the perky tour guides, it's a haunted place. You can't help but imagine the horror of being locked inside those mud walls, watching an army of thousands grow and grow until it stretches from one horizon to the next, while you wait for help that can't possibly come in time.

Like Custer's Last Stand, there's a romance about battles where one side is vastly outnumbered - doomed to be heros whether they like it or not. I was in college before I found out that Custer was a crazy sadistic bastard. But people who have been to the Custer battlefield tell me they felt what I did inside the Alamo - nothing to do with the maniac in charge, but everything to do with the boys who followed him into the trap, and how they must have felt in the moment when they knew.

It hasn't been politically correct to glorify Custer since "Little Big Man" was a hit, and the Confederacy hasn't been celebrated in a mainstream movie since the Civil Rights era. Maybe someone with power and money in Hollywood will eventually make a movie that does for the Battle of the Alamo what "Little Big Man" did for Custer's Last Stand; it made our one-sided history textbooks obsolete, and made us curious about what native Americans endured at the hands of our heros. I think it made a lot of people resent having been fed the cleaned-up version of history, too. A more accurate movie about the Alamo, though, is going to need a villain inside the walls, a Custer-caliber maniac whose arrogance gets his people killed. Without a villain, audiences will always pull for the underdog.

(Audiences will. But my dog didn't.)

:rolleyes:

Meanwhile, I'm going to Google the Texas Rangers. Sounds like the Lone Star State's own Ku Klux Klan...Is there some landmark where my dog can honor them in her special way?
 
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Colly, thanks. You know I respect your views and thinking. This is a bit too personal a subject for me though. Just to be clear, your comments were not at all offensive to me personally.

Perdita

Edited so no one thinks I want to argue.

Edit #2: Too late, no problemo. :)

Hi Per.........missed you. I'm not familiar with the concern hispanic ancestry folks might have with the Alamo battle. It is a historical fact, though, hollywood always interprets for audience drawing.

I am from the south. And, I get irritated with people from not here criticizing the confederate flag or sentimentality. This week in SC there is a major burial planned for the crewmembers of the Hunley, a civil war sub that sank and was recovered.

The issue seems to be political correctness or history versus ancestry and familial heritage.

till later............red
 
redrider4u said:
Hi Per.........missed you. I'm not familiar with the concern hispanic ancestry folks might have with the Alamo battle. It is a historical fact, though, hollywood always interprets for audience drawing.

I am from the south. And, I get irritated with people from not here criticizing the confederate flag or sentimentality. This week in SC there is a major burial planned for the crewmembers of the Hunley, a civil war sub that sank and was recovered.

The issue seems to be political correctness or history versus ancestry and familial heritage.

till later............red

Red, I'm from South Carolina, too, and had ancestors who died fighting with the Confederacy. But displaying a symbol that is known to be hurtful and controversial isn't the only or even the best way to honor them. Of the boys and men I knew in S.C. who made an issue of displaying Confederate flags in their yards and on their vehicles, there wasn't one who could tell you with any certaintly what happened at Andersonville, or who fought at Gettysburg, or whether Jefferson Davis was the president of the Confederacy or the local Kiwanis Club. They displayed it because it was a safe and legal way to tell African Americans to f**k themselves, and if they were pressed, that's what their defense of "the flag" always came back to.

I'm all for their right to free speech, which has nothing to do with the issue of the State displaying a controversial symbol at the expense of taxpayers on both sides of the issue.

Honoring the Hunley is an act of respect, like giving a proper burial to some unknown soldier found in a farmer's field. It's a gesture of respect, and not the opposite. If generations of the descendents of slaves had grown up being flashed pictures of the Hunley accompanied by racial slurts, would honoring the dead still be worth the insult to the living?
 
Red, Sher said enough, but one more thing from me. No one can keep you from irritation, or even ire, at those furriners who don't "get" Dixie. I don't live in your corner so don't matter. But I do live in 'the west', and have a large number of family from or in Texas. I understand why a majority of Texans love The Alamo, but I also know they are either racist or ignorant, and it's no excuse, not for me.

Perdita
 
I suppose there will always be somebody to cry "racism" in every situation. How is the Alamo in San Antonio any different than the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia? Because one of the armies the U.S. fought was white and one wasn't? For that matter, how about Cinco de Mayo? Another instance of the underdogs fighting for their independence. I suppose that the museum in Puebla should be boycotted, because it might offend the descendents of those poor Frenchmen who died.

I've always thought that racism in the U.S. would become a lot less prevalent if minority groups weren't constantly pulling it back to the forefront of everything. People I know who I would consider "racist" are mainly miffed at minority groups for their constant barrage of cries of racism against them and for their promotion of reverse discrimination. Black Entertainment Television, Jet Magazine, the United Negro College Fund...now those sound racist to me.

I've always thought that the great thing about the U.S. is the protection of rights for the minority. In Congress, all the minority has to do is filibuster and they can block virtually any legislation that tries to go through. In the judicial system, just one person has to have their rights infringed upon, and the rules are tightened for everybody else. Take the Pledge of Allegiance fight. Polls show well over 90% of people in favor of leaving "under God" in the pledge, but because it may violate the rights of a few, it will probably be removed. Everybody makes mistakes, and just because 150 years ago some Americans thought slavery was ok or Mexicans were somehow second-class people doesn't mean Americans today feel the same way.

Of course, this is all the opinion of a Texan who, because some Texans from a century ago did things of which any human being of any race should be ashamed, is racist and ignorant by association. "Hey - weren't those racist pigs Texas Rangers? Fuckin' Texans...racist bastards."

While you're at it, don't forget to call all the wonderful Germans you might know "a bunch of Nazis." Hitler was German, wasn't he? I guess that means all Germans are like he was.

I'm with Colly...I don't condone what was done all those years ago just because of someone's race any more than I would condone them today. I think those years represent a a sad, sad chapter in the history of the U.S. But I don't think memorials such as The Alamo deserve to be spat upon because some bad things happened after the fact. I think Vietnam was a stupid, pointless war. But when I'm in D.C. standing in front of that Memorial Wall, that's hallowed ground, and you'd better not show any disrespect or you'll find one hoppin'-mad Texan all up in your stuff.

So I say Remember the Alamo and any other monuments that represent selflessness and courage, and only piss on the sorry racist bastards who botched things after-the-fact.
 
GodBlessTexas said:
I've always thought that the great thing about the U.S. is the protection of rights for the minority. In Congress, all the minority has to do is filibuster and they can block virtually any legislation that tries to go through. In the judicial system, just one person has to have their rights infringed upon, and the rules are tightened for everybody else. Take the Pledge of Allegiance fight. Polls show well over 90% of people in favor of leaving "under God" in the pledge, but because it may violate the rights of a few, it will probably be removed. Everybody makes mistakes, and just because 150 years ago some Americans thought slavery was ok or Mexicans were somehow second-class people doesn't mean Americans today feel the same way.
Yep, it's all easy livin' for them damn complainin' minorities.

Jest look at the way the U.S. congress is scramblin' to amend the Constitution to deny basic rights fer them fuckin' faggots.

Another case of the great U. S. of A. bendin' over and spreadin' em fer those damn min-or-eye-tees!
 
perdita said:
Red, Sher said enough, but one more thing from me. No one can keep you from irritation, or even ire, at those furriners who don't "get" Dixie. I don't live in your corner so don't matter. But I do live in 'the west', and have a large number of family from or in Texas. I understand why a majority of Texans love The Alamo, but I also know they are either racist or ignorant, and it's no excuse, not for me.

Perdita
I don't love the Alamo, but it is part of history. From what I've read, the new film is much less "Rah Rah White Man!" than the John Wayne version (duh!) and that's a good thing for me.

I plan to see it, but that's mostly because it was shot near Austin and I know people that are in it.
 
It seems to me now that many choose to interpret history much as pollsters do polls, cafeteria style; revising or skewing or only mentioning part of the story in order to lend it greater weight.

Most Texans know of Juan Sequin, argueably the greatest of the Texas heroes. Obviously, he was one of the tejanos you mentioned. Every school child learns of Juan Sequin's colorful and full life and career. He was the ONLY person to have fought in every single major battle for Texas independence. [He escaped the Alamo entrenchment before its fall in order to secure reinforcements.]

He has a town named after him that includes an enormous monument listing his accomplishments on all its sides, topped by a life-sized statue of Seguin on horseback. It was Juan Seguin who ensured constitutional language for the Republic of Texas did not discriminate in favor of anglos. I believe he did the same thing for voting rights -- making sure all landowners could vote, regardless of their race.

What I'd like to point out is that not only do ALL Texas school children learn about Juan Seguin's accomplishments, they also learn of his disappointments and the injustice he fought. They are taught ALL the reasons why he is a Hero of Texas.

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Juan Seguin --
1834 - - Appointed Territorial Governor (Jefe Politico) of Texas.

1834 - - Being the first to organize opposition to Gen. Santa Anna by preparing a circular inviting citizens to take part in a Texas Constitutional Convention.

1835 - - Appointed to the rank of Captain in the Texas Army by Commander and Chief Stephen F. Austin: Captain Seguin recruited fighters to defend against the invasion of Santa Anna's army; Juan Seguin personally provide his own troops with horses, food and shelter.

1835 - - Battle of Gonzales erupted over possession of a cannon wanted returned by Mexican troops; Gonzales citizens challenged the troops to "Come an Take It." They then used it to fire the first shot of the Revolution.

1835 - - Juan Seguin fought alongside Jim Bowie in the Battle of Concepcion; then rushed to join the Grass Fight south of San Antonio in an effort to slow the pace of Santa Anna's invading Army.

1835 - - Siege of Bejar - Captain Seguin with his 160 Tejano ranchers and Texas volunteers attacked Gen. Cos troops then in control of San Antonio in a crucial battle that signaled no turning back by Texas freedom fighters.

1836 - - The advance guard of Santa Anna's troops was sighted near San Antonio which alerted the small detachment of defenders to quickly regroup on the grounds of the Alamo: Once there, the small unit of Texans immediately prepared their defense of the mission against the attacking troops of Gen. Cos that were soon to be dramatically increased by the much large forces of General Santa Anna.

1836 - - The Siege of the Alamo commenced; Captain Seguin defended the mission alongside Crocket, Travis and Bowie until ordered by Colonel Travis to break through The Mexican lines in search of additional Texas troops.

1836 - - The Fall of the Alamo occurred while Captain Seguin was following his orders to ride to Goliad in search of reinforcements from the troops of Colonel Fannin.

1836 - - He next rushed to warn and help defend Texas citizens fleeing from the path of the Mexican Army during the ensuing Runaway Scrape.

1836 - - Captain Seguin commanded Company (cavalry) of the 2nd Regiment during the Texas victory over Santa Anna Army at San Jacinto; soon after that brief struggle, he was ordered by General Sam Houston to enforce the orderly withdrawal of Santa Anna's troops from Texas.

1836 - - Captain Seguin with his army reentered San Antonio to accept the surrender of the Mexican forces there under the command of Lt. Francisco Castaneda, the same officer involved in the opening skirmish over the cannon at Gonzales.

1836 - - He was promoted to the rank of Lt. Colonel by Republic of Texas President David Burnet, who expressed special trust in the courage, patriotism and ability of Juan N. Seguin.

1837 - - He successfully appealed to his friend, Sam Houston, to rescind a prior military order to destroy San Antonio by fire, thus earning Colonel Seguin the respect for saving that city.

1837 - - Ordered by Sam Houston to bury the remains of the Alamo defenders, Colonel Seguin provided the martyrs with a Christian burial including full military honors.

1839 - - Senator Juan N. Seguin presented a bill that established a mail route from Austin to San Antonio.

1839 - - Colonel Seguin was honored by the citizens of Walnut Springs who voted to change the name of their community to Seguin because of his service to Texas during its heroic struggle for Independence.

1837 - 1840 - - The Biographical Directory of the Texas Conventions and Congresses states that Juan Seguin was an elected member of the Senate of the Republic of Texas 2nd, 3rd and 4th Congresses; Senator Seguin's legacy includes his strong leadership for adoption of a bill requiring all of the Laws of the Republic of Texas to be written in both English and Spanish. Senator Seguin held high his views that the Republic's law should protect all citizens and that there can be no doubt as to the rights an individual enjoys, and equally important what his responsibilities are, as a citizen of Texas.

January 19, 1840. Austin was selected as the official capital. Col. Seguin was on the joint Senate and House Committee to select the site for the Capitol of Texas which was named for his bosom friend Stephen F. Austin, It is related that the committee killed buffalo for their food while camped to locate the site for the capital of Texas.

1841 - - Juan Seguin is elected Mayor of San Antonio.

1852 - - Won election as Bexar County Justice of the Peace; re-elected for a second term two years later.

1869 - - Elected Wilson County Judge.

1874 - - Juan Seguin was declared a hero of the Texas War for Independence by the Texas Legislature and provided a lifetime pension by the state.

http://www.seguindescendantshp.com/Tejano%20Families.jpg
 
And to counter some of the points espoused as 'fact' in the article quoted in the first post:

The Battle for the Alamo
Will Hollywood accurately reflect Tejanos’ role in the fight?
By Lyn Schultes in Hispanic Magazine Online

Thanks to a single famous fight, Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie have become legends in the history of the wild, unforgiving southwest frontier. But the legends have little to do with the actual battle that occurred that fateful day in March of 1836.

There were other heroes—and another history that few remember or associate with the Alamo. Chief among them was José Antonio Navarro, a name forgotten in history books, and a group of Tejanos—Mexicans who lived in Texas for generations.

This month, a movie titled The Alamo, starring Dennis Quaid as Gen. Sam Houston and Billy Bob Thornton as Davy Crockett hits the screens. Emilio Echevarría stars as Gen. Antonio López de Santa Ana and Jordi Mollá as Juan Seguín.

The Disney film is one of the first Hollywood adaptations of the Alamo to include such pivotal figures as José Navarro and Juan Seguín in its main plotline. It is pushing to be more historically accurate by hiring voice coaches to help the actors master 19th century Spanish, along with an authentic use of period costumes—no boots or cowboy hats.

The epic, which is the largest set in North American history, deals with aspects of the battle previously left untouched. One of the more controversial issues in the scripts produced so far, is the death of Davy Crockett. Some historians now believe that Crockett rather than fighting to the death, was executed after begging to be spared.

The important role of the Tejanos were the focus of PBS’ Remember The Alamo, an hour-long documentary that is part of the American Experience series, which originally aired in February and will be re-broadcast on PBS on April 26. Check your local listings for times.

“The purpose of Remember The Alamo was to illuminate the role that the Tejanos had in the Southwest’s history. People are very locked in to their own version of the Alamo, and the role of the Tejanos has been completely ignored,” says writer, director and producer of the documentary, Joseph Tovares, himself a Tejano descendant.

Tovares believes he is setting out to correct a corrupted record—and some historians agree a correction is needed.
“It is so important to go back to the original documents and sources to know what really happened, because people learn the history of Texas and the Alamo through films and paintings, which have been incredibly inaccurate throughout the generations,” says James E. Crisp, associate professor of history at North Carolina State University.

Most movies about the Alamo, such as the 1960 classic The Alamo starring John Wayne, were never intended to be historically accurate. They celebrated the American myth and glorified the role of now legendary icons, such as Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie. Hollywood has traditionally portrayed the battle at the Alamo as a two-sided fight between the rebellious, freedom-loving Anglo Texans and the evil, mighty Mexicans, led by infamous dictator, Gen. Antonio López de Santa Ana.

But, like with most anything, the truth is not that simple.
Remember The Alamo examines the many aspects of Texas’ history and the battle at the Alamo that have previously been taboo. Perhaps the main focus of the documentary is the contribution of Navarro and the Tejanos in the Alamo—a group overlooked in Hollywood interpretations of the historic battle.

“If the history of the Tejanos made it into the history books, it has been erased,” says Tovares. “I don’t think that Texans have any idea of the Tejanos’ role in their history.” Félix D. Almaraz, Jr., hisory professor at the University of Texas at San Antonio, says the lack of credit given to the Tejanos began after the battle, when new settlers arrived. “Tejanos were held in very low esteem by new arrivals who didn’t know about their contributions. But the trend in teaching the history of Texas is changing. I have been teaching about the Tejanos for 43 years. They were here before the battle of the Alamo and they are here after,” says Almaraz.

Historians say even many documentaries are not historically accurate, painting the battle in a simplistic and false light.

“The Alamo had become an event portrayed in starkly racial terms, that is just plain wrong. The conflict is depicted as White versus Brown, Good versus Evil, Civilized versus Savage. In actuality the Tejanos were involved decades before the Anglo settlers and had long thought that Texas had the right to be an independent territory. The racism of the past century has affected the history of that time, ” says Professor Crisp.

Decades before the battle at the Alamo, an old Spanish mission in San Antonio, Tejanos unsuccessfully rebelled against Spanish rule. When the rebellion failed, many sought refuge in the United States, before returning to Texas in 1821 after Mexico won its independence from Spain.

José Navarro was one of those, along with Missouri-native Stephen F. Austin, who looked to Texas in search of prosperity. Remember The Alamo examines how the rebellion against Mexico was really about poor folks looking for their own land in the West, not freedom or liberty.

In 1834 Santa Anna abolished the Mexican Constitution and concentrated power in Mexico City, leading newly arrived immigrants from the U.S. to fear for Texas’ sovereignty. By the end of 1835, Texans and Tejanos had driven out Mexican soldiers from their land. The civil war that started in Texas then became an apparent movement to break from Mexican rule.

The legendary battle of the Alamo occurred on March 6, 1836, where some 200 American and Tejano volunteers crouched awaiting a Mexican army of 4,000 men that was rapidly approaching San Antonio.

The conflict resulted in the death of every single Alamo defender and a Mexican victory. The Texans and Tejanos were more determined than ever to claim their independence from Mexico. They staged a surprise attack on Santa Ana near the San Jacinto River, that resulted in a bitter, bloody battle where the unforgiving Texan army killed all Mexican soldiers they could find. It was here that Sam Houston, the army commander, cried the now celebrated adage, “Remember the Alamo!”

Following Texas’ new independence, Anglos and Tejanos enjoyed collective power in San Antonio for a short time, until the Tejanos became secondary citizens in the city, and their contribution in the Alamo was forgotten. “If the Tejanos hadn’t intervened, I don’t think that Texas would be here today in the same form,” Tovares says. But a lot of Americans, who get their history from films and paintings, don’t know that.

“The history of the Southwest is so commonly ignored, and the Alamo was a pivotal event in U.S. and Hispanic history. Many Americans think of the Hispanic story as a recent one, but we have been here for a very long time and have had the same values as the larger American culture has had over the centuries,” says Tovares.
 
GodBlessTexas said:
People I know who I would consider "racist" are mainly miffed at minority groups for their constant barrage of cries of racism against them and for their promotion of reverse discrimination. Black Entertainment Television, Jet Magazine, the United Negro College Fund...now those sound racist to me.

I have psychic abilities that sometimes astonish and even frighten people who don't have The Gift, so look away if the supernatural makes you uneasy...I'm concentrating hard on the tea leaves here...Yes, I'm getting something...I'm guessing that you are...white? A white male?

Did I get that right?

I'm as astonished as anyone, trust me.

:D

Tex, nobody here is spitting on the Alamo. Merely objecting to the repeated retelling of half of the truth.

Did you ever see the classic silent film by D.W. Griffith, "Birth of a Nation?" It's a landmark film about the heroic founders of the Ku Klux Klan, who banded together after the Civil War to avenge the ravishing of little white girls by vicious former slaves. A great piece of filmmaking by the standards of the day, but in the light of reality, an embarrassing piece of propoganda.

It's not a bad thing when people complain about the twisting of facts to produce a more entertaining version of history. You're free to see and enjoy The Alamo, and since there were people of courage who died there, I hope that wherever they are they know they've been honored. But there's nothing wrong with people who know the bigger story, seeking to be heard. It keeps the rest of us honest, more or less.

On the other topic raised here, I happen to think that the man who brought the Pledge of Allegiance issue to the Supreme Court is the most American kind of hero, one who loves his freedom and his child's enough to devote a significant portion of his life to protecting it. Dying for your country isn't the only way to fight for freedom. Here is this reviled man, having the courage to say to the courts, you have no right under the Constitution to say that my young daughter can be asked to pledge obeisance to God, in a school where my taxes and those of other atheists (and agnostics and buddhists and zorastrans and hindus) are pooled together with the taxes of Christians to educate children.

The "pledge under God" is a small issue, as violations of the Constitution go - but isn't it better to draw the line here, at the first transgression, than to wait a few decades until atheist children are made to wear a symbol on their clothing that sets them apart? It's not that far from the realm of possibility, as can be seen in Greece where everyone is now required to list their religion (or lack of one) on their government-issued I.D. cards. You can bet that when the Taliban took over, some people in Afghanistan wished they had objected when there was still a chance of being heard.

As for the reason why minorities are always harping about rasicm and bigotry, it's probably because they face those issues in their daily lives in ways we can't imagine. I know of one successful African-American man - a columnist for the Miami Herald - who tried to discourage his adult son from buying a BMW because he'd be suspected of stealing it. The son didn't believe it until he'd owned the car for a couple of years and had been questioned half a dozen times by police officers and highway patrolmen who demanded to know if it was his car. To say that organizations like The United Negro College Fund are discriminatory is a bit like complaining that you want to share the cure, when you've never suffered the disease.
 
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From the other side of the pond

One thing that saddens me is the use of the Confederate Flag as a symbol in the modern world.

I have no problem with bodies of those who died on the Confederate side being buried under that flag. That is their flag and the cause they fought for. I would defend the use of the WW2 German or Japanese flags for burying their dead with honour.

What angers me is the use of the Confederate Flag to symbolise an intolerance and hatred that many who fought under it wouldn't have recognised. That war was not just about slavery despite the winner's propaganda. There were principled people who supported the Confederacy and they would be ashamed of the symbol that flag has become.

The Nazi flag represented an evil regime yet many Germans who were not Nazis fought under it. Displaying Nazi symbols in 21st century UK is either ignorance or a deliberate act to provoke minorities. Here some people see a Swastika and the Stars and Bars as interchangeable and intend it as an insult to people of a different colour or faith. Some people even display the Stars and Bars because they think it represents all that is 'best' about Country Music.

Perceptions change with distance. All I feel about the Alamo and the American Civil War is sadness that so many feel the need to keep re-opening wounds that should have been healed generations ago. Let the past bury its dead with honour even if the dead were on what is now seen as the 'wrong' side.

Has the US forgiven us Brits for the war of 1812 and our burning of The White House? Most US citizens probably don't even know about that war. UK citizens don't seem to. They might remember and honour the US forces who fought with us in WWI and WWII and the help the US gave us in the Falklands War but a war in the early 19th century? We had so many wars then.

Re-inventing history is not a modern idea. The Romans did it. The Greeks did it. We are just following some disgraceful precedents.

Og
 
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