Forced Feminization/Sissification

[DressupGuy]

I wasn’t sure if I should start the discussion here or in the BDSM section so I hope this is ok here.

First, is Feminization and Sissification the same thing? And secondly, do they both typically fall under Femdom?
I believe these are mostly part of humiliation/emasculation kinks but there are many different ways these can be played out. It wasn’t until recently that I learned that a lot of women don’t like this as being dressed in women’s clothing should not be embarrassing or humiliating. I totally agree there, but at the same time, can’t help but have this kink.

I’ve never experienced it, but my fantasies are cliche:
Wife/girlfriend is tired of macho husband/boyfriend who needs to be punished-forced into bra and panties and made to wear them daily under his men’s clothes, gets teased verbally and physically (pat on the butt in public to remind him he wears the panties-you wear the pants and are in charge) and verbally by calling him a little panty boy or sissy) he may protest but obviously he likes the humiliation. If wife has kinky friends he may be required to show his panties and bra when asked-male and female friends allowed to tease. No wigs or make up (and I’ll get to this shortly). This sounds more like a porn story and these things really don’t happen (or do they?)

The next one would be serving as French maid for a group of dominant women or men (or both) - again wearing no wig or make up but dressed in a very short satin maids dress with petticoat and ruffled satin panties being objectified and teased. Spankings for getting something wrong, a pinch on my bottom when I bend over a little and the panties peek out, having to curtsy and be a good little maid. There could possibly be other maids serving as well but we’d all be dressed similar.

The last one is just getting caught trying on lingerie or panties which leads to a dress up session.

The fantasies don’t end in sex but just humiliation/embarrassment and emasculation. I also am not interested in passing for a woman which is why wigs and makeup do nothing for me. A little lipstick being applied might be erotic but it’s not necessary.

These are typically straight male fetishes - I may be bi but am mostly attracted to men so I’m not sure why femdom is of any interest. I have an underwear fetish which is mostly anything silk and satin - it just so happens that most underwear made out of that material happens to be panties so that might be part of it. I love the look of panties/lingerie on men - forget the fantasies and I still like the look. Most gay men seem to want nothing to do with anything lingerie and panty related and I can understand that.

So I guess my question is, has anyone ever experienced these fantasies and if so did it live up to your expectations-were you really “forced” or was it just role play? Did you wear panties but not really want to?

 

[SissySalina]

To this sissy "Feminization and Sissification" are two different things.
Feminization is Femdom, it is a man being forced to dress and act as a woman by a woman.
Sissification is a man (biologically) dressing as a female in order to serve as a sex object for a man, this maybe voluntary or forced by ether sex.
This is the quick definition as understood by this sissy.

 

[SPARTAN047]

Feminization and sissification aren't quite the same.

The dressing up is a little more feminine and over the top in one.

 

[JeanPanty]

Not big on full cross dressing, but like the kinkiness of wearing panties under clothes

 

[Smoothshavendad]

So fun inwrapping a lace-covered treat.

 

[lawnstar1900]

Love this thread. I'm into sheer lacy nightgowns, pantyhose, heels, hoods and giving my wife head on her strapon. My wife is fairly accomodating. We have a good sex life and it's very fulfilling after a lifetime of hiding it from my first 2 wives and countless girlfriends. I do wish she were more assertive with me, but I don't press it.

 

[lululuvsblack]

It it a "straight male fetish"? It seems to me pretty obviously bi in the clearest way to want a hot woman to turn you in sissy bitch: it's about pleasing a woman and getting fucked by men

 

[BudgieSmuggler]

Depends. As a straight male I have had a lingerie fetish as long as I can remember, I REALLY mean as LONG as I can remember. There was never any emasculation or humiliation quirk involved. I've always been physically excited by the feel of lingerie. I think I must like it for much the same reasons that women do. I like the look and I particularly like the feel. And I do feel different when I put it on.

It wasn't until my mid 40's that femdom and sissification as a thing started even entering my fantasies. I am sure that simply enjoying what is more of a textile fetish than anything else cannot be classified in the same realm as femdom and sissification although I'll admit adding those elements takes the experience to a new level.

In my experience having previously shared the fetish with a girlfriend without ANY femdom overtures was a sharing experience that I'll always treasure and it was nothing more.

 

[stargame]

I admit i'm very effeminate and feminized.

 

[stargame]

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[Mike302]

My wife wants to Dom a Man, not a woman or sissy.

However, she does do some emasculation and some spanking. Still wants a man, but wants to show domination.

 

[Cardinal]

Good distinctions. Would be fun if my wife would indulge my panty fantasies and “force” me to wear them and tease me about them. Just a hot secret between us.

 

[trevorness]

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oh yes

 

[Misslindalove]

I have a panty fetish I don't know why but just seeing them get me going.im not gay but I have crossdress for many years at least 40 or so and now I dress all the time when I am at home and a lot of times when I go some where .my wife of 49 years is a wonderfully person for letting me dress up,but the only thing that gets me really going is to see panties on a woman . and I love to see up skirt.

 

[JCSTREET]

I have a panty fetish I don't know why but just seeing them get me going.im not gay but I have crossdress for many years at least 40 or so and now I dress all the time when I am at home and a lot of times when I go some where .my wife of 49 years is a wonderfully person for letting me dress up,but the only thing that gets me really going is to see panties on a woman . and I love to see up skirt.

No worries - 66% of cross dressers are straight - although I don't care either way

 

[Mike302]

My wife wants to Dom a Man, not a woman or sissy.

However, she does do some emasculation and some spanking. Still wants a man, but wants to show domination.

I'll add that if she wanted to and it turned her on, she could totally feminize me, swing, cuck me out, whatever.

She's turned off by feminine men and gayness in general, either way. I'm forbidden to get sexual with other women, but I have female friends and can meet with them for lunch, events, etc. When she jokes about that she's always clear it regards women. We had a chat once that essentially said if I do something with another guy it's don't ask, don't tell, and don't bring anything home. I'm a masculine guy and she likes that. I'm sure if she took a lover he'd be bigger, taller, more masculine than me. She has no interest in doing that seriously but reserves the right should circumstances change. She's also intelligent enough that she could do it and I'd never know, just find her pussy juicier than usual as she sits on me, fucking my mouth.

As long as we love eachother, are best friends, she takes care of me, and I want her to enjoy her life, she gets what she wants.

 

[emmcee_M_Aussie]

Some interesting distinctions made here and I'm not sure what the right or wrong of any of them might be. For me the idea of being feminised is the loss of masculinity that came with lingerie wearing that my ex enjoyed a) finding me in her panties (I made sure she did one night to test the waters for an interest I'd had for years) and b) her accepting and encouraging it by buying me a bra & panty set and later taking me shopping. That did introduce some humiliation as she made sure I was seen as the one shopping by the women customers and staff - but she also had realised how arousing I found that. So perhaps that was the sissification element at play. In lingerie I was naturally more submissive to her and she enjoyed that role switch.

 

[NancyPan]

It’s a good question with a bit of a complicated answer. Some of the posts above are accurate, and some convey common misunderstandings. Most men who crossdress are heterosexual (over 90%). Don’t confuse fetishistic crossdressing (which it sounds like like you are describing) with either transwomen OR effeminate men.

The “forced” fantasy is fairly common, but many crossdressers just wish for an accepting female partner and have no desire for FemDom. A minority of crossdressers have the “sissy maid” fetish or fantasy (and I would include myself in that group). Many times, however, the term “sissy” in urban slang refers to a male who desires to service men while crossdressed.The term sissy is much misunderstood and often misused.

Although I am 100% hetero, and present very male in my day-to-day life, I certainly think of myself as a “sissy” in the sense of my love of feminine things, my acknowledgment of my sexual inferiority, and my devotion to women. In our home, my Wife is the Queen and I serve Her.

Although I am in a FLR, wear panties 365/24/7, and do my domestic chores in a frilly apron, I do not dress or act effeminate in my day-to-day life and I function “as a man” in many capacities for my wife. She has simply learned and accepted that I love feminine things. I used to have fantasies about being “forced” to wear panties, etc. before it became accepted as part of our daily life.

Feel free to PM me. Nancypan

 

[MeganFachs]

Good stuff, NancyPan. I’ve just found that there is never one common definition of a term (sissy in this instance) and what kinks, fetishes, behaviors and desires one person includes. And semantic struggles aren’t worth the stress LOL

 

[Phatfeet]

When I think of Forced Feminization, I think of something entirely different.

It started with my mother wanting to have a girl for a baby, and my father insisting he had a feeling I was going to be one during pregnancy. When I turned out to be a boy, my mother was disappointed to say the least.

For the first two years of my life, I was dressed as a girl. My mother getting this strange sort of demented thrill from people misgendering me and her having to correct them. My mother told everyone this was done in the past, and it was true. It had to do with ease of changing diapers, how hard it was to hand-make baby clothing they quickly outgrew, and being hand-me-downs for both genders. In short, reasons that have absolutely no basis for continuing what was done back then; today.

After two years of age my mother could no longer use the old “they used to do this back in the day” thing, so she had to change. At first it was just girl clothes around the house, and when in public to boy clothing, but when my dad started to complain when I was like 10 or so, it reverted to holidays only, and eventually to mostly Halloween. Almost all my Halloween costumes were me as very feminine characters. I mean not unisex in any way; Little Bo Peep for example. She would go all out with make-up and everything so that in Halloween parties and contests she should secretly tell people it was her son dressed up as I was.

Somewhere in my teens I realized I did not have to endure the ridicule. Sadly I put up with it for so long because me and my siblings were physically abused. I mean to the point of being removed from our home by child protective services. But that was why my mom did it. She wanted a girl and got a son. She liked having a secret that no one knew about until she told them Little Bo Peep was actually a boy. A need to even control the gender of her child.

It was very humiliating and traumatizing.

To me that is forced feminization, but to be fair it is NOT eroticism in any way.

 

[drobert44]

Good stuff, NancyPan. I’ve just found that there is never one common definition of a term (sissy in this instance) and what kinks, fetishes, behaviors and desires one person includes. And semantic struggles aren’t worth the stress LOL

So true, Megs

 

[Travler99921]

I don't want to be forced so much as be given permission.

 

[Johnnysako]

I admit i'm very effeminate and feminized.

And we appreciate that.

 

[Bottomlover]

Many years ago my new GF put her finger up my ass while giving me a BJ.. I liked it a lot and told her that I'd let her fuck me with a strapon if she wanted. The very next night she had a harness and dildo and fucked my ass. During our pillow talk afterwards, she told me she had a fantasy of having lesbian sex with a big titted blonde. She didn't want to bring another person into the bedroom, so I told her I would do anything she wanted to satisfy her. A couple of days later she presented me with a blonde wig and stockings and beckoned me into the bathroom for some makeup. We had a wild night, and repeated the routine several times afterward. A few months afterward, we went to her cousin's wedding, and she surprised me with some pretty panties to wear while she wore nothing under her dress. It was our little secret.

After 20+ years, she still likes me to be her little bitch occasionally. I will also be her lesbian lover.

 

[Dearelliot]

Wearing crotchless womens panties and of course the cock and balls hang through, exposed, and have the Mistress punish them.