Forbidden from/Forbidden to

[dr_mabeuse]

Applauding is forbidden. Are you:

(a) Forbidden from applauding

or

(b) forbidden to applaud.

?


And while we're at it, is one thing different than another? Or is it different from another?

Prepositions: the older I get, the more trouble they give me.

---dr.M.

 

[LadyCibelle]

Applauding is forbidden. Are you:

(a) Forbidden from applauding

or

(b) forbidden to applaud.

?


And while we're at it, is one thing different than another? Or is it different from another?

Prepositions: the older I get, the more trouble they give me.

---dr.M.

I might be wrong but I think (b) forbidden to applaud is the right way to say it.

As for your other question it's different from another

 

[snooper]

Prepositions: the older I get, the more trouble they give me.

Yes, and the same verb takes different prepositions from language to language. I remember a lovely thing from years ago (but can't find my copy) which explained that I could fill a form in or out or up, but never down; and that my car breaking down is a problem, but if it breaks up ...

As to your specific questions:

Both descriptions of non-clapping are correct grammatically.

Different from is the English usage; different to is the US usage.
Related to that is:
Differ from is the English usage;
differ with is the US usage.

 

[HawaiiBill]

Applauding is forbidden. Are you: (a) Forbidden from applauding
or (b) forbidden to applaud.

Neither (a) nor (b) works. You are not forbidden, as both
suggest. 'Forbidden' is a state of the object, in this case 'applause.' It
is, therefore, forbidden whether you or some other lout in the audience
insists on doing it. OED has a number of nifty and ancient quotes using
such words as 'forbiddenness' or 'forbiddenly' -- sometimes in reference
to how you or someone else touched the queen. Wow.

So it is the act of applauding that is forbidden just as the fruit in Eden
was and -- I would guess -- still is forbidden. Let's go eat some peaches.

And while we're at it, is one thing different than another? Or is it different from another?

'This' is different from 'that.'

OED Sez, " b. Const. from; also to, than ({dag}against, {dag}with).
The usual construction is now with from; that with to (after unlike, dissimilar to) is found in writers of all ages, and is frequent colloquially, but is by many considered incorrect. The construction with than (after other than), is found in Fuller, Addison, Steele, De Foe, Richardson, Goldsmith, Miss Burney, Coleridge, Southey, De Quincey, Carlyle, Thackeray, Newman, Trench, and Dasent, among others: see F. Hall Mod. English iii. 82.

Hope that helps as you slide down the final evening to a Happy New Year.

 

[gauchecritic]

Only how it looks to me.

It is forbidden that you applaud.

You are forbidden from applauding. (applause?)


Similar to.

Different from.

Although 'different to' is colloquially spoken and sounds right.

 

[HawaiiBill]

Applauding is forbidden.

Dr. M,

Long time no hear. How's the work? Still forbidden?

Happy New Year!