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ottohauser1977

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....I eventually broke down and voted for Obama. My reason? Absolute horror at the idea of another rightist government. I couldn't stand even the risk of putting another far-right candidate in the White House. We need a break from conservatism, at least. Even if it means that the Democrats will be blamed for our problems. In fact, I voted a straight Democratic ticket, just out of disgust with the GOP.

I had qualms about Obama, given his association with Tony Rezko, but I figured that I would give him a chance. After all, Chester Arthur had a corrupt reputation, but did surprisingly well.

Besides, I kind of liked the idea that my first vote as an American would put a black man in the White House.

I know that I initially planned to back Nader, but a man can change his mind, right?

Of course, living in Texas, my vote only affected the popular total, not the electoral count. :(
 
OTTO

McCain wasnt 'rightest.' He was centrist. Recall that he was a member of the gang of 14 that prevented the Republicans from ending the filibuster rule in the Senate. Bush hates McCain.

McCain also favored citizenship for illegals, and other policies that make fascists like me crazy.
 
OTTO

McCain wasnt 'rightest.' He was centrist. Recall that he was a member of the gang of 14 that prevented the Republicans from ending the filibuster rule in the Senate. Bush hates McCain.

McCain also favored citizenship for illegals, and other policies that make fascists like me crazy.

You've fallen into the trap of thinking it's just one individual you are voting for in a national election.

To get anything done, you have to have the administration and Congress pulling together. McCain is such a maverick that he has no political capital even inside his own party.

Otto's reasoning was much the same as mine in voting a straight Democratic ticket this go around.
 
You've fallen into the trap of thinking it's just one individual you are voting for in a national election.

To get anything done, you have to have the administration and Congress pulling together. McCain is such a maverick that he has no political capital even inside his own party.

Otto's reasoning was much the same as mine in voting a straight Democratic ticket this go around.

I suppose it would be an exercise in futility to kindly ask you to not quote JBJ?

:eek:
 
Obama really had nothing to do with Tony Rezko other than doing some legitimate business with him and moving in the same political circles. He's been grilled and dragged over the coals about his association with Rezko, and nothing has come up.

Believe me, Obama might turn out to be a lot of bad things, but a crook and corrupt politician is not one of them. That's a complete misread of his character.
 
I suppose it would be an exercise in futility to kindly ask you to not quote JBJ?

:eek:

Yes, probably futile. That's sort of a silly game, I think. If I don't directly index the posting I'm responding to, I get hate posts from people I'm not responding to. And it's just as easy for you just not to read posts by those you'd like to ignore as to expect others not playing the "ignore game" (which seems mainly a fake game anyway) as it is for me to try to be clear without using the quote feature.
 
Obama really had nothing to do with Tony Rezko other than doing some legitimate business with him and moving in the same political circles. He's been grilled and dragged over the coals about his association with Rezko, and nothing has come up.

Believe me, Obama might turn out to be a lot of bad things, but a crook and corrupt politician is not one of them. That's a complete misread of his character.


Oh, I think there was some hanky panky in his house deal--but I would hope that he's learned from that.
 
Update: a recent poll of Republicans shows a preference of 64% for Sarah Palin.

Oh, Republicans, please do nominate her! 8 years of Barack Obama would really help this nation. ;):devil:
 
Well, thank you, Otto. :)

It was my pleasure. I don't know why so many men think that the GOP stands for them. It really stands for the same religious fanatics who want to outlaw every kind of sex but the missionary position, within marriage, of course. Not to mention porn.

The Republicans have gotten too much credit for being pro-male. I don't find an agenda of outsourcing and blue laws the best way to favor men. Not that the GOP stands for women, either. If they did, they would be pro-choice. :rolleyes:
 
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It was my pleasure. I don't know why so many men think that the GOP stands for them. It really stands for the same religious fanatics who want to outlaw every kind of sex but the missionary position, within marriage, of course. Not to mention porn.

The Republicans have gotten too much credit for being pro-male. I don't find an agenda of outsourcing and blue laws the best way to favor men. Not that the GOP stands for women, either. If they did, they would be pro-choice. :rolleyes:

Republicans: the rich white oligarch party :D

(thank you, comedy central)
 
It was my pleasure. I don't know why so many men think that the GOP stands for them. It really stands for the same religious fanatics who want to outlaw every kind of sex but the missionary position, within marriage, of course. Not to mention porn.

The Republicans have gotten too much credit for being pro-male. I don't find an agenda of outsourcing and blue laws the best way to favor men. Not that the GOP stands for women, either. If they did, they would be pro-choice. :rolleyes:
They'd be democrats. :D
 
....I eventually broke down and voted for Obama. My reason? Absolute horror at the idea of another rightist government. I couldn't stand even the risk of putting another far-right candidate in the White House. We need a break from conservatism, at least. Even if it means that the Democrats will be blamed for our problems. In fact, I voted a straight Democratic ticket, just out of disgust with the GOP.

I had qualms about Obama, given his association with Tony Rezko, but I figured that I would give him a chance. After all, Chester Arthur had a corrupt reputation, but did surprisingly well.

Besides, I kind of liked the idea that my first vote as an American would put a black man in the White House.

I know that I initially planned to back Nader, but a man can change his mind, right?

Of course, living in Texas, my vote only affected the popular total, not the electoral count. :(

Wow. I was out for a week and now you're this presence on the AH. Starting interesting threads even. :D Hi Otto. :kiss: Nice to meet you. Glad you went for Obama. I've just been excommunicated by my entire family (who is thinking of moving to Australia... SORRY STARR...) because of my vote. Oh well. I guess my soul is damned for going democrat. :rolleyes:
 
Wow. I was out for a week and now you're this presence on the AH. Starting interesting threads even. :D Hi Otto. :kiss: Nice to meet you. Glad you went for Obama. I've just been excommunicated by my entire family (who is thinking of moving to Australia... SORRY STARR...) because of my vote. Oh well. I guess my soul is damned for going democrat. :rolleyes:

Sorry about that. I know what it's like to have my family disapprove of my politics. My father was a member of the Communist-led Socialist Unity Party. He was a loyal comrade of Erich Honecker, so he didn't care for my politics, either, about the time that the Berlin Wall fell. :rose:
 
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