Folsom St.

Does this mean that you live in San Francisco?

I don't go to Folsom - very "touristy" and am worried that some of the youth with whom I work might see me and wouldn't enjoy it not being in fetish gear. I might volunteer at the Exiles space this year, though.

I do go to Dory Alley, which is more of an inside community event. I also try to attend portions of Fringe Fest (before Folsom, in San Jose) and I will go to the play party at the Citadel. It might be fun to get together a Lit contingent for any of these events

:D Neon
 
No. I don't live in SF, though I do go frequently. As for meeting others, I wouldn't mind. I'm always up for meeting new people. I have to say though that I am very very comfortable looking vanilla. It is not pretense, it is not fake, or me being closeted. It is simply that I have not felt a need to get piercings, tattoos, or any kind special fashion to match my interests. That said I am also comfortable talking to anyone from any walk of life.

If you ran into me in real life, you would most like think I looked like a plain jogger (when I am in athletic mode), or you would say I looked like a business person. That probably puts me in the minority on this board, but oh well.
 
AndrewKay said:
(edited) ...If you ran into me in real life, you would most like think I looked like a plain jogger (when I am in athletic mode), or you would say I looked like a business person. That probably puts me in the minority on this board, but oh well.
It actually puts you in the majority, LOL... (On a personal note, I have an urban look but pass well in professional company.) ;)
 
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AndrewKay said:
If you ran into me in real life, you would most like think I looked like a plain jogger (when I am in athletic mode), or you would say I looked like a business person. That probably puts me in the minority on this board, but oh well.

What do you think the rest of us look like in real life? I look like a soccer mom. *shrugs*
 
Question Andrew, why are you asking about Folsom? I reread your intro and you mentioned being most interested in DD. Folsom is very much a BDSM event - heavy on the SM part of the equation. ~ Neon

P.S., Not being flip, just curious. My first thought was that maybe you were looking for people to go with, but from your response to my first post, that didn't seem what you were looking for...
 
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hello

Well. I am most interested in DD. And I know Folsom is a BDSM event. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-BDSM. BDSM has the potential to really do something for me. I'm just not there yet, and I'm also careful as I seriously don't want to unleash a sadistic side of myself if that makes any sense. I like myself as a nice guy that spanks.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who is indistinguishable in the professional world. But I also bet you two have weekend S+M clothes no?
 
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AndrewKay said:
Well. I am most interested in DD. And I know Folsom is a BDSM event. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-BDSM. I just don't see myself with someone who wants a relationship centered around BDSM, or around sex for that matter. BDSM has the potential to really do something for me. I'm just not there yet, and I'm also careful as I seriously don't want to unleash a sadistic side of myself if that makes any sense.
So, were you planning on going?

Regarding fearing releasing a sadistic side - I do understand your concern and suspect you're probably not alone. It hasn't been difficult to accept that aspect of myself, perhaps in part because I came to formal BDSM so late, perhaps because I've always had Leathermen friends who I see as deeply loving and ethical. I also think it's in part because I enjoy receiving pain and so see my sadism as very giving and loving (which is not to say that it can't be severe). I know that sounds like an oxymoron but it's not, LOL. On the other hand, my former play partner (male, a good friend) struggled for a long time with those desires before fully accepting them, despite being switch. I suspect that some of it has to do with our social conditioning as men and women.

I would venture to say that most folks here don't center the majority of their relationships around sex, anymore than anyone else (although I suspect that the libido of the average Literotica member is higher than "average," whatever that means). BTW, my BDSM play most usually doesn't involve sex at this point (my SO is not kinky). It is more about fun, self-discovery, intimate friendship, and sometimes spiritual connection.

On another note, I certainly respect you for knowing where you are and what you're ready for.

:rose: Neon
 
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AndrewKay said:
Well. I am most interested in DD. And I know Folsom is a BDSM event. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-BDSM. BDSM has the potential to really do something for me. I'm just not there yet, and I'm also careful as I seriously don't want to unleash a sadistic side of myself if that makes any sense. I like myself as a nice guy that spanks.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who is indistinguishable in the professional world. But I also bet you two have weekend S+M clothes no?

My "S/M clothes"** consist of a (ever growing) killer vintage lingerie collection, a passion for stilettos, and my corset- which I wear as the mood strikes me, under my everyday wardrobe, not as a fetish accessory. People who pay *very* close attention might catch an aura of something a wee bit different about me; however, my style is my style, and 98% of my "BDSM" clothes do double duty in my daily wardrobe, with no one any the wiser. LOL

(** Although I do have a fabulous punishment/discipline dress hanging in the closet, but I've never even worn it.)
 
AndrewKay said:
Well. I am most interested in DD. And I know Folsom is a BDSM event. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti-BDSM. BDSM has the potential to really do something for me. I'm just not there yet, and I'm also careful as I seriously don't want to unleash a sadistic side of myself if that makes any sense. I like myself as a nice guy that spanks.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who is indistinguishable in the professional world. But I also bet you two have weekend S+M clothes no?

HAHAHA You so funny. With what money? Fetish stuff is spendy. Besides K prefers me naked when we play. Occasionally he'll have me put on some piece of lingerie that he's bought me, but other than that it's a no-go. When I can afford clothes I need clothes I can wear on a daily basis - I don't have much clothing as it is.
 
No fetishwear here, either. I would love a corset because I like the look and think it'd enhance my features, but I'm saving to get a quality one.

At my playspace, people dress however they're most comfortable, whether that's jeans, lingerie, leather, fetish or little-nothing at all. I was surprised to see how little emphasis there is on appearances; most seem exceedingly comfortable in their own skin, and people usually get together mainly based on common interests/personality traits (it's not unusual to see a very attractive 20-something with a 40-something most in our society would consider unattractive, for instance).

I think the lack of superficiality and emphasis on how people look is why I enjoy my time there. It's very comfortable for me to spend time with people who celebrate diversity unapologetically and are very comfortable with themselves. :)
 
AndrewKay said:
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who is indistinguishable in the professional world. But I also bet you two have weekend S+M clothes no?
And there is something wrong with that? 1 corset (satin not leather, see av), 1 short pvc skirt, 1 black and white leather bustier, no fetish shoes (can't wear them) although I do have some black suede heels that I also wear to the opera/symphony and that lace up the front. i have some nice lingerie (not vintage - CM, I am envious). most often, i also take what i have from my everyday wardrobe. You should see me in my black jeans and black workboots (necessary - I occassionally do filmwork) with only a black bra on top and flogger in hand :devil:

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(** Although I do have a fabulous punishment/discipline dress hanging in the closet, but I've never even worn it.)
Pictures? Please? Just on the hanger? I bet Graceanne would give you a cookie. ;)
 
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neonflux said:
Pictures? Please? Just on the hanger? I bet Graceanne would give you a cookie. ;)


Mmmm... it isn't what one might think of when one hears the words "punishment dress", but we'll see. I had to do a bit of surgery on the French Form this morning (it's developed a bit of a list...), but I'll try to shoot something once the epoxy dries.

I did find the most stunning oh-holy-goddess black beaded 1940s suit this afternoon, that would make a *killer* outfit for a Domme. (I love my work... :D )
 
CutieMouse said:
Mmmm... it isn't what one might think of when one hears the words "punishment dress", but we'll see. I had to do a bit of surgery on the French Form this morning (it's developed a bit of a list...), but I'll try to shoot something once the epoxy dries.

I did find the most stunning oh-holy-goddess black beaded 1940s suit this afternoon, that would make a *killer* outfit for a Domme. (I love my work... :D )

Oh boy! Oh grrl! Oh boy! :D (The beaded suit sounds incredible!) :rose: Neon
 
neonflux said:
Oh boy! Oh grrl! Oh boy! :D (The beaded suit sounds incredible!) :rose: Neon

I started a dress up thread, so as to not further hijack Mr. Kay's thread. ;)
 
I have a very extensive fetish wardrobe. I was a professional in the scene. It's called "work clothing."

Sometimes I like to wear it, just as someone might just get a buzz out of wearing a suit outside the office at times. So it's nice to be dressed at an event where I can dress, but lately I've been showing up to more things with shoes that get kicked off, black pants, and a silk blouse. Just stuff that looks generic professional.

I'm not going to folsom, and it bums me out to hear it's gotten touristy. I tend to do DC and NYC events when I have the energy, or rope-based ones.
 
heh heh

:D Corsettes are sexy. The strings all pulled taut.

Dang neon. So sometimes you look like a soccer mom with corsettes? That would be damn hot.

In regards to exploring my sadistic side, fear is not the right word. I'm really not pulled heavily in that direction right now. I've been there, not in a BDSM relationship, but in two vanilla ones where she liked me being sadistic and I played the part.
 
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Re: Folsom Street Fair

Netzach said:
I have a very extensive fetish wardrobe. I was a professional in the scene. It's called "work clothing."

Sometimes I like to wear it, just as someone might just get a buzz out of wearing a suit outside the office at times. So it's nice to be dressed at an event where I can dress, but lately I've been showing up to more things with shoes that get kicked off, black pants, and a silk blouse. Just stuff that looks generic professional.

I'm not going to folsom, and it bums me out to hear it's gotten touristy. I tend to do DC and NYC events when I have the energy, or rope-based ones.

This question might be a little off-topic, but is fetish wear tax-deductible for professional dominants?

I know that clothing purchased that you cannot wear out and about under "normal" circumstanced can be tax-deductible, but I think there may be a fine line with regard to writing off the cost of fetish attire, because it CAN be worn at BDSM events.

Care to comment?
 
taxes

Where you deduct things that can be used for pleasure and business, you're suppose to assign percentages. But there isn't a fine line as you say, if I bought a computer and used it 50 percent of the time for business, but I said otherwise, it's not like the IRS is going to come knocking on my door.
 
disclaimer

If the IRS does come knocking on your door, then I will not be responsible. :p



So........Back to Folsom. It's becoming commercialized? or you just see a bunch of normal people with cameras?
 
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