Flour Tortillas:

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[rosco rathbone]

Every culture that has wheat and poor people has some version of this.

flour, salt, baking powder and water and you've got roti.

mix up a loose, sticky, sloppy dough, roll out, brush with ghee, roll back up to create pastry layers and you've got paratha or buss-up-shut.

 

[neci]

i don't know any mexican who has said, let me go get some TVP to put in my beans. their abuelitas would have risen from the graves to smack them with a thousand chanclas.

 

[khbostic]

All the pasta is a variant ,brought back from china.Pasta is rolled out,cut,& dried.Served with everything,gravies,in soups,marinara sauce...

A flour tortilla can be used like a pizza dough base,except the tortilla should be fully cooked/ to add all the stuff for tacos in the oven,on a cookie sheet,without a microwave.Beans with chili salsa on tortilla,extra meat,cheese...popped in oven 10 min or so,folded after taking out of oven,doing multiples at same time...Then you could add salad stuff/Italian salad dressing.

The middle east eats cous cous,its like spaghetti,except its rice sized,a lot of the time flavored like with chicken bullion,a sort of rice a roni ,often served with refried chick peas,instead of pintos,their favorite beans over there...

The Mexican restaurant business in the USA could profit from offering TVP on the menu,pandering to vegetarians ...Not in the beans,but as a separate vegetarian chili salsa with the beans...

I was also thinking they could profit by offering spaghetti & marinara sauce,and meat like steaks chops,chicken,with marinara sauce over it on the menu as well.

I had a aunt that worked a food service company,stocking catering/canteen trucks, that went around to mfg plants,construction sites,etc....Sandwiches to gas stations were also on the routes...It kept her in a health insurance policy,though it only paid minimum wage,before the jobs left the country...

 

[Recidiva]

buss-up-shut.

Sounds dirty.

 

[khbostic]

Biscuit dough is boiled in gravy 10 to `15 min to make dumplings,as in chicken & dumplings or chicken stew...or,rabbit,or squirrel stew...

Just changed the avatar to a different workup of my look alikes...

www.myheritage.com is a free place to look up your look alikes,against your pic,a computer program,like the fbi database,or Law Enforcement Information Network/LEAN machine.No wants or warrant outstanding here,move on...LOL

 

[Laurel]

Too lazy to read the whole thread, but want to go on record as in favor of flour tortillas. Corn, too. Especially when stuffed with yummies.

 

[khbostic]

Back around 1981 or so,my step dad died.So,I sent a letter to the Latin American Council of the city of Pontiac/city hall.

I explained I had had a stepfather that used to work there in city hall as a human resources aide,he was fluent in Spanish,so he doubled as a translator.They reduced their workforce there,so he went into HUD,as a relocation specialist for the city of Pontiac,for people who got their property condemned.

I went on to give them a tasty piece of intel/info which was,:there was a 30 grand import tax on cars coming into Mexico.They could make connections to drive new cars down there & sell them,maybe taking a part of the profits to finance Mexican Restaurants.

On top of that,people that work for the car companies there get like a 20% discount,& some try & sell them in the newspaper.

That was 18 yrs before free trade agreements.I hear they sell VW s like a golf/rabbit for apx 8 grand down there,no airbags or catalytic converters,so they don t meet minimum fed safety standards.Thats how they keep cheap cars from the market here...The same VW here costs apx 18 grand here....Thats a lot of catalytic converter & air bags,LOL

My stepfather got divorced from my ma when I was about 16,she worked the police dept,& used her connections to get him the jobs at city hall.He said he helped the Azteca club get started there.

He/my stepdad, went on & married a Puerto Rican Woman & had a kid with her,probably about 5 when he passed away.

He didn t have any kids with my ma.He had a son that was grown from a previous marriage to a German woman,before my ma...My ma was from a restaurant family,Kinshella s Cafeteria & Familiy Dining,that closed about 1958,up in Detroit.My step dads son was also named Miguel Cervantes,but had a different middle name Tom.

,I worked restaurants about 4 yrs as a young teen,starting by washing dishes,eventually going to short order cook,7 shift manager.I learned the plain clothes use the fast food business as a regular routine,& have taken it over,no future in it as a civilian.
I worked for a Italian Detective in a mini mall restaurant,that also had a pool room & video amusement machines arcade,from 1971 to 1974.They had breakfeast 24 hrs,and deli style sanwiches...He was partners with Oliver Amusement Co,that owned the coin operated arcade machines,pool tables,juke boxes,cigarette machines,phones...I thought I was being a stand up guy working there,but they were the type to try & turn on me,go figure.

I even came up with making customized salad dressings,& slaw dressing while there.One of the plainclothes guys,a Polish 21 jump street type, there said,I guess we could do the salad dressing.So I waited to see who would come out with salad dressings,It was Neumans own label...

Sidebar:I saw the Italian owner guys son this yr,he turned into a gun dealer type at the gunshows,a jock type.Theres one detective with my middle & last name doing the gun detail in the Charlotte,NC area.One of my dads brothers was doing Gun detail in SC as a barber,next state over,now dead.

I put in 18 mo rent a cop duty thereafter.Went to 2 yr college,& worked psych Nursing to put my self thru college,my Mental Health Soc Work para prof Fegree.I worked in the Mental Health Dept of the State Civil Service,as a Attendant/Nurse 03.1977 to 79.Had a B avg overall on my Degree.

My stepdads son from his 1st marriage, married a German woman & had a couple kids with her,Randolf I believe was the German wifes maiden name,so the kids were 75% German,with a Latin last name.

PS,Kinshella was my mas maiden name,sounds like it could be Latin.My ma s side was Roman catholic,thats as far as that went.The name is Irish,originally spelled Kinsealach,pronounced Kinshella,so someone changed the spelling to go as its pronounced..Kinshella was a son of Kavanaugh,before & when they started getting Christian names.

Just outside the Capitol Dublins city limits,Ireland ,lays Kavanaugh County,Kavanaugh was one of the old Irish Kings& territory.Like the Scottish Chieftain system,they had 23 Kings,so they were more like governors in the states.Theres been 2 Governors in the US by the name of Kavanaugh.

I know someone on the board was pointing out someone else in the board was with the Latin Kings,what was said over the past few months...Coincidentally,Someone was asking if I was associated with a Mexican restaurant here in town,over the past yr.I never been there ,or heard of them.Maybe someones always trying to see if they can dump their heat off on me,probably more police types.
When I was growing up,there was a Rodreiguez family down the block.My younger brother used to visit there.They sent word for me not to come over,as they had a son Rudy,that was another look alike to me.Now I m hearing the news anchor in Charlottes CBSis probably a sister to him,ie,Rudy,Calling herself Maureen,another bad news charactor.Maybe its their place...

 

[khbostic]

All the forgone being said,Ive been doing 4 leaf clovers with my Health & Longlife Resource pgs,as a charity fundraiser for the past 22 yrs.

In the past 15 yrs,I earmarked a 1/4 million in stock for funding food co ops with orphanages,thru the Red Cross,who got 2/3rds of my stock.

Pig co ops and chicken& egg co ops in Mexican orphanages,to make them self sufficient ,hopfully into perpetuity.Then there was all the stuff that goes into Brunswick Stew with the Mexican correctional system,as well as putting it in # ten cans.Theres a cultural food exchange...

Columbus 1st voyage had a hold full of sugarcane from his father in laws plantation.So he got plantations started wherever he stopped ,as a cash crop.His 2nd voyage brought pigs.The pigs eat the leftover cane after the sugar is extracted .

I told the red cross the prisoners diet would also be improved as they would be eating it,as well as the orphanages eating what they were producing as well.I heard they have to make provisions for themselves in jail down there,so this fills that bill as well.

I also earmarked some for food co ops in Africa,Haiti ,Afghanistan,& the Pacific Rim tsunami area,coupled to orphanages,& grain for famine areas in Africa.

I told the Red Cross,that food was classic as a charitable thing to do for the Irish,as we had the Potato Famine ourselves,so its a tradition....

 

[Phelia]

I'd rather tour flotillas. Boats are neat.

 

[islandman]

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[Phelia]

This thread just got hot.

 

[TANG GOD]

this thread = racisystem

 

[khbostic]

After I got into my gig of doing 4 leaf clovers for charity,I earmarked apx 350 000 dollars worth of stock to be in my extended families names.I included a 5 grand donation in my step dads 1 st sons name,so they could all use it as a tax credit on a itemized deduction.

Over the past 5 yrs,they rewrote the tax laws to say you can t use it if you don t have a reciept.So,I guess I was lucky to do that before the law got tight like that.

I never wrote anything off mine because Im on a small pension,no income to write it off as a deduction.I do have a Honorary Dr of Divinity & Ministers papers that are legal ,thru the Universal Life Church,besides a para professional Mental Health Social Work 2 yr degree.You would think they would take my oath on it though...

 

[khbostic]

I have to bump this thread again,to keep it alive.I was just reading a news article this morning ,that between the house & senate ,theres a hold up on some bills,because they cannot agree as to wether it should be 2 billion or 4 billion taken away from the poor on food stamps.

Its doubled as to how many are on foodstamps these days ,just since 2008.
Thats what happens when they give away all the jobs & call it a "Free Trade Agreement".

The current president is expanding this ,calling it the transpacific partnership,or TPP,over the past 6 weeks ,which expands jobs going to latin america & Asia/China.

So,people in general can benefit from this feed,& write these recipes down as survival skills.Don t forget to look up biscuit recipes,or get bisquick at the store and add extra cups of flour & yeast pkt to recipe for doubling out the recipe,also add 1/3 cup sugar to it,for quickbreads...Keeping those dry goods on the shelves helps to stretch the dollar in hard times.

Beans ,Rice,Flour,Noodles,Bullion cubes,Veggie Oil in quantity,as well as Shortening,Tub Margarine,Powdered & regular Sugar,Black Tea Bags have a 10 yr shelf life,Canned goods,like whole stewed tomatoes,store brand spam if not vegetarian....Always getting extra eggs & bread at store when there...jelly.Spices...I don t know why the stores don t carry powdered eggs,to cook with,& make scrambled eggs with,at a decent price.

Chicken,I get & do 2 at a time,with 1/2 gal water,1/2 doz bullion cubes,red pepper,onion,garlic powders,1/3 cup sugar,tin foil 2 sheets folded together over top of broiler,then cooked 4 hrs at 400 degrees.

After cooling,I pick it off the bones ,into freezer bags with it.Stock,you can cook rice in it,adding more bullion cubes for chicken rice a roney.Nice chicken sandwiches with salad dressing,dill hambug slice on side,a lil more fancy with lettuce tomato...

Hamburg ,I extend with creamed mushroom soup can,canned mushrooms,diced fried onions,brown gravy pkts& water...Spices,onion,salt,pepper,4 pkt nutrasweet,Cooking the 3 lb roll all at once,then freezeing in pint containers.

On the TVP mentioned,its a survival food as wellm,has a 10 yr shelf life,takes a lot of veggie oil..Lots of long term storage food revolves around using TVP,helping to keep costs down.Its in a lot of backpacking & camping foods too...

I feel rabbits cut loose in wilds of 3rd world countries can make a BIG difference in people being able to help keep themselves fed...Any chicken recipe is used also on rabbit.

Another point is,70 million are at retirement age ,here in the States,& disproportionately fall into the lower classes,the poor old folks.

This doubles as urban survival skills ...

I get extra bags of potatoes,& extra cooking oil in winter fall,spring,to stretch the budget.Potatoes were New World items as well as tomatoes,that Columbus brought back.So they are actually latin and amer indian foods ,too.They go great with beans,& salsas con carne.

 

[khbostic]

Ahhh,the Pintos that go with the tortillas.

I get the 2 lb bags,thats about right for the 5 qt pot most people have.First you have to sort thru for a odd stone or piece of clay ,or rotten looking odd bean,by hand,into the cullender,usually using a piece of newspaper or flyer ,to spill the beans out & onto.

Then rinsing,washing a bit.Then,putting into the pot,filling with water.Sometimes I do the quick way,bring to a boil ,then letting it sit til the next morning.Other times ,its just letting them sit overnight,with a couple tablespoons of baking soda added.They say you should change the water in the morning before cooking them the rest of the way...

Then their cooked a couple hrs stirring,every 10-15 min,& at this point I add the salt. .After that ,I take a qt jar to mash them in the pot,add veggie oil,as its better for you than beef lard.Then,I cook em another 1 1/2 hrs,& have the heat lowered,stirring them more often,til their the way I like them...

Sometimes ,I will make the salsa up ,right in there ,in with the beans,But mostly this salsa is made in a separate iron skillet,either way:adding 2 tblspn each of oregano,chili powder,garlic,onion powder,crushed red pepper,a big can of riced stewed tomatoes 30 oz,you could use tomato sauce,meat,I use loose ground mostly ,already cooked,more veggie oil,maybe cumin too,adding more water in separate skillet.Us Irish/German whatever types like it sweeter,adding some sugar to give it more of a American chili con carne flavor,& maybe a lil flour whipped in cold water to give it a lil more body,salted to taste.

After its cooled,I put up 1/2 in plastic freezer containers,& eat it maybe 3 different days following...But I don t have any connections to any establishments out there...

 

[pete]

Last week,I looked up Flour Tortillas online:

2 cup flour

1/2 Tspn Salt ; 1 tspn baking powder
1/4cup veggie shortening;Margarine if out? or beef lard? or equivalent in veggie oil...
1/2 cup to 3/4 cup milk or water
Sift flour,salt & baking powder in mixing bowl;
Cut in oil,or shortening...
Mix with fingers to combine...Add in milk or water,work into sticky doughball.
Wrap in plastic or cover bowl a half hour;Divide into 8 to 10 mini balls & rool out into tortilla size;or 6 to 8 larger ones.You can double this recipe.

Dust flour over rolling board ,before rolling out;keep dough dusted enough to roll out.Have skillet or griddle hot apx 7/8ths hot on electric,or 3/4 high on gas range,slap in greased pan/griddle til slight bubbles rise,flip over,cook til done,maybe storing in a cotton towel.

Add your favorite taco fillings,or eat with fried or refried beans and chili salsa,etc...

ALWAYS use shortening. they don't taste as good otherwise.

home made tortillas rock. and yes, they're totally mexican.

 

[rosco rathbone]

After I got into my gig of doing 4 leaf clovers for charity,I earmarked apx 350 000 dollars worth of stock to be in my extended families names.I included a 5 grand donation in my step dads 1 st sons name,so they could all use it as a tax credit on a itemized deduction.

Over the past 5 yrs,they rewrote the tax laws to say you can t use it if you don t have a reciept.So,I guess I was lucky to do that before the law got tight like that.

I never wrote anything off mine because Im on a small pension,no income to write it off as a deduction.I do have a Honorary Dr of Divinity & Ministers papers that are legal ,thru the Universal Life Church,besides a para professional Mental Health Social Work 2 yr degree.You would think they would take my oath on it though...

wat the blood claat

 

[khbostic]

What da blood,claat/ Well anything you donate worth anything ,can be deducted from income taxes.Money is one thing,valuables another.I estamated my 4 leaf clovers to be worth 20 bucks ea..I tried to give value for the items,& added Health & Longlife resource pgs,things from my mental Health /Social Work program,such as things that would help,in art ,music,recreational,occupational,activities therapies.

I put a link for bookclubs that give a 100 to 200 in books with ea club joined,as well as discussion of therapeutic health food store supplements that could help,in a shotgun approach of healthfood store grtst hits,as a alt therapy for self help.Various links that may save a few bucks to defray the price of the 4 leaf clover...
Over time ,I donated 350 thousand bucks worth in my extended families names.

They generally can recoup 33% off the 360 grand worth so that means they don thave to pay 120 grand ,from the 350 grand.Paid the familiy dues/respects.

Over the past few yrs tho,they say you need a reciept to write it off now,they wrote that into new laws...Does that make it easier to understand?

I actually did apx 3.7 million in stock over the past 23 yrs,but about 350 grand was donated in the families name of that= apx 10%.

 

[rosco rathbone]

What da blood,claat/ Well anything you donate worth anything ,can be deducted from income taxes.Money is one thing,valuables another.I estamated my 4 leaf clovers to be worth 20 bucks ea..
Over time ,I donated 350 thousand bucks worth in my extended families names.

They generally can recoup 33% off the 360 grand worth so that means they don thave to pay 120 grand ,from the 350 grand.

Over the past few yrs tho,they say you need a reciept to write it off now,they wrote that into new laws...Does that make it easier to understand?

I actually did apx 3.7 million in stock over the past 23 yrs,but about 350 grand was donated in the families name of that= apx 10%.

Stay on topic: flour tortillas. With all due respect, your life history is not especially interesting.

 

[khbostic]

Thanx for saying:My life history is not all that interesting.I try to stay in that kind of bracket.I live in a block that has a lot of plainclothes,who do all the interesting organized crime,prostitution,liquor,gambling stuff,car sabotage,where they try & attract all the interesting ones in.

I ,on the other hand ,stay the hell away from such types as much as possible,for the plague they are.I hear theres a lot of Shingles going round.

Ever here the one where the guy says to the prostitute,"you gave me the social disease,& she replies,I didn t give you nuthin,You paid for it?",nyuck,nyuck,nyuck...

Maybe some of those young bucks can t see that for themselves.My ma from time to time would say,all work n no play ,makes jack a dull boy...I feel they have tried hard to replace slavery with prostitution,down south.

Like I said in the past,Ive a lot of look alikes.There was a 1/2 doz that were at least a 50% match on a computer look alike program,where my ma worked the cop shop.They like to walk on the wild side,so they are the type to try using me as a fall guy,while they are the actual perps.Thats partly why I went into mental health social work.My ma said a third of detectives do automotive related....& walk that wild side as well...

Those detectives do theinterracial special intrest group,my ma tried to get me interested in,so she could dump the detectices heat on me,as another variant.Im infertile, myself,been tested,another thing they look to exploit....low T here....Theyre trying to play every angle,as far as Im concerned.

Well,I will say I read articles that say the corn has been genetically altered to where its no longer safe.It was tested in French Labs and gave cancer to 80% of the lab animals.

Corn has had a nasty reputation of having aflatoxins on it from bacterial growth,even before the GMO.

The latest GMO corn was made to produce its own herbicides,like roundup,to cut down on what farmers have to spend in spraying.Idon t feel thats too healthy.The 1st stab at gMO dorn was to reduce digestive enzymes in it,so the bugs couldn t digest it,thus reducing the need for bugspray on the crop,increasing yeild.

This may be behind some of the increase in autism,less digestion of nutrients in humans,as a overall way in looking at autism,as well,it just makes it worse.

Otherwise ,I would mention my dads family made cornbread which is also great with beans.They made it sweet,Johnnycake style,adding buttermilk to the batter that soaked overnight,besides sugar.

In hard times ,people added a lot more cornmeal to it,up to 80 %cornmeal.In good times,people generally put 50 to 80 % wheatflour in corn bread,though its named cornbread,it has more four as grain in it...

Most people would grow corn for chicken feed ,a generation or 2 back.I read a article that said feeding corn only will make livestock less fertile,and lay less eggs,as it is anti vitamin E.Adding wheat at 1 bushel to every 2 or 3 bushels of corn is the proper ratio to make a good chicken feed,wheat has the vitamin E in it...