Flack For Having Interracial Males

[gordo12]

I know Loving Wives is prone to racist comments from readers about black males being in stories.

I was wondering about Romantic though? Has anyone seen a "belongs in Interracial" kind of comment there?

 

[Rustyoznail]

I know Loving Wives is prone to racist comments from readers about black males being in stories.

I was wondering about Romantic though? Has anyone seen a "belongs in Interracial" kind of comment there?

I did an Indian female /Australian ***edit*** redhead male romance story with no complaints.

 

[Emberto]

Oops, posted to wrong thread.

 

[Aerolineas]

Race is such a funny concept. Within the Americas, British and Dutch colonies were often entire communities relocated across an ocean. Not so among the earliest Portuguese, Spanish, or French. Generally only males came west, nature took its course, and there was a generation or more of mixed Amerindian and European people.

The Pope gave the island where I was born to the Spaniards. Without consulting the Mayans who actually lived here. When the Conquistadors arrived they dragged the natives off to serve them as agricultural labor in walled cities. It wasn't perpetual slavery, but it was definitively non-con. Many hid, others escaped, and most returned after being "converted." French and British lumbermen arrived to fell the tall trees and they took native women as temporary "winter wives."

After the lumbermen cleared the forests sugar cane was planted. Nigerians taken captive by the Dahomey were sold to the French on nearby islands. They escaped from plantations where they were held as slaves during the frequent warfare between Britain, France, Spain, and Holland. Mixing with Amerindians (who themselves were amalgamations of different groups) they created creole communities those communities sought refuge here.

The British, having abolished the slave trade, brought Eastern Indians to their islands as (low) paid laborers, many left the British islands to work here. During the colonial period there were small Spanish enclaves of property managers. After Bolivar some stayed and in time mixed with everyone else.

Humorously there was another wave of white immigration after the US Civil War when American Confederates who refused to swear renewed allegiance to Washington moved south. A generation or two later their children and grandchildren had mixed with everyone else, an Amerindian, British, Confederate, Dutch, Eastern Indian, French, Mayan, Nigerian, Spanish mix.

If I masturbate its "interracial."

 

[SisterJezabel]

I know Loving Wives is prone to racist comments from readers about black males being in stories.

I was wondering about Romantic though? Has anyone seen a "belongs in Interracial" kind of comment there?

If this was a comment on Homeless, I'd ask them what they were smoking as it was a perfect romance story and I loved it completely.

I try and introduce realism into my stories- characters with migrant grandparents, First Australian characters etc, but I would never consider posting in the IR category as that appears to be a hotbed of white men fucking black women with bubble bottoms, white women taking in downpipe sized cocks or white men screwing Asian women. And SamuelX (I will admit I have never read one of his stories, but he is ultraprolific!)

I think diversity in characters is good. Turning characters into tropes based on stereotypes is never a good idea.

The best IR story I ever read was ages ago- the premise was basically man backpacking through Eastern Europe, meets gorgeous girl who doesn't speak English and thy spend a wonderful night together, letting their bodies do the talking. The criticism of it at the time though was it should have been in the romance category! Go figure!

 

[Javahead]

I did an Indian female /Australian male romance story with no complaints.

For some reason, white male/any-other-group female stories draw a *lot* less complaints than the reverse

I've been in an IR marriage for most of my adult life and seen the same thing in person - where I live, WM/xF doesn't raise any eyebrows, especially WM/AF relationships like mine, but BM/WF often did.

There's an old Silicon Valley joke that single men in tech were issued an Asian girlfriend as part of the standard hiring package - it was (and is) probably the most common IR relationship in the area.

Interestingly, in real (as opposed to literary) life in the US, the ethnic groups most likely to be in an IR relationship are East Asian and Hispanic. Though BM/WF is more common than WM/BF, both the absolute numbers and the percentages are rather lower.

But on Literotica, BM/WF appears to be by far the most likely to appear in an "IR" category story. Of course, the guys in those stories generally equipped with a schwanz like a salami, too.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I know Loving Wives is prone to racist comments from readers about black males being in stories.

I was wondering about Romantic though? Has anyone seen a "belongs in Interracial" kind of comment there?

Nope. I think readers in Romance are more accepting if the theme is romance and the story is in fact a romance, with the emphasis their rather than on the racial aspects.

Loving wives is heavily focused on outrage at cheating wives, and what’s worse for a WM than a WF wife cheating with aBBC? Oh my goodness the fervour and outrage that arouses!

IR as a category really is BM/WF focused, and other combos just float on by.

As for WM/AF, there’s a lot of reasons for that, many of them associated with East Asian culture and the culturally grounded attitude to females. Speaking from some experience, I’ve had trends where all the kids came here from China or Hong Kong to go to school. In both cases, the boys returned, the girls stayed and married? You guessed it, WMs. It’s an interesting phenomena and one that’s made it’s way into a number of novels by Asian writers.

Anyhow, writing as I do about the AF and generally WM experience, I’ve put WM/AF stories across a number of categories and never had any comment that they belong in IR. I suspect where it happens, it’s largely because the story emphasizes a racial theme heavily.

In my own stories, race is always a theme, but more as background than something that’s the main theme, unlike aBBC story, where the main character is usually the BBC with some sort of person behind it..

 

[Blind_Justice]

Amidst all the tentacles and aliens, no one has noticed that "Express Delivery"'s protag is Mexican.

 

[gordo12]

I did an Indian female /Australian ***edit*** redhead male romance story with no complaints.

They never seem to mind if the female is IR. Only the male. And there it is definitely slanted against blacks. I think I've seen every other race in the male with no complaints but as soon as a black man appears...flames!

Race is such a funny concept. If I masturbate its "interracial."

We can hold you up as a fine example of racial integration.

If this was a comment on Homeless, I'd ask them what they were smoking as it was a perfect romance story and I loved it completely.

No, it wasn't Homeless. Thank you very much for your kind words about the story.

Although I've been writing during covid I haven't been posting much. I have a backlog of stories including a romance between a white woman and a black lawyer. I went to post it last night and couldn't decide whether to go with IR or Romance. That's why I asked.

For some reason, white male/any-other-group female stories draw a *lot* less complaints than the reverse

Exactly. I can't remember a complaint about the female's race. White guys are proud to boink any woman.

Nope. I think readers in Romance are more accepting if the theme is romance and the story is in fact a romance, with the emphasis their rather than on the racial aspects.

Loving wives is heavily focused on outrage at cheating wives, and what’s worse for a WM than a WF wife cheating with aBBC? Oh my goodness the fervour and outrage that arouses!

IR as a category really is BM/WF focused, and other combos just float on by.

As for WM/AF, there’s a lot of reasons for that, many of them associated with East Asian culture and the culturally grounded attitude to females. Speaking from some experience, I’ve had trends where all the kids came here from China or Hong Kong to go to school. In both cases, the boys returned, the girls stayed and married? You guessed it, WMs. It’s an interesting phenomena and one that’s made it’s way into a number of novels by Asian writers.

Anyhow, writing as I do about the AF and generally WM experience, I’ve put WM/AF stories across a number of categories and never had any comment that they belong in IR. I suspect where it happens, it’s largely because the story emphasizes a racial theme heavily.

In my own stories, race is always a theme, but more as background than something that’s the main theme,

Volunteering in a senior's residence where 80% of the staff is Female, 18-30 Philipino, I can understand that trend. If I was single and young again there are three of them there I'd marry in a heartbeat. And my day is a smorgasbord of young pretty women. I didn't have those kind of choices growing up

unlike aBBC story, where the main character is usually the BBC with some sort of person behind it..

I think the term you're looking for is "Human Dildo"

 

[TxRad]

I'm working on a SWC (Small White Cock) story. I wonder how that will be received.

 

[QuillPig]

Anyone who'd give you flack for that isn't someone whose opinion is worth caring about. And they certainly aren't worth pandering to.

 

[Emberto]

I'm working on a SWC (Small White Cock) story. I wonder how that will be received.

And I thought SWC was South Western Chilli!

 

[RejectReality]

I think you'll be fine in romance, so long as the focus is primarily the romance. The IR elements can be part of the conflict, but they shouldn't overshadow the romance. So long as you deliver that, the romance readership seems to be relatively open-minded.

 

[gordo12]

And I thought SWC was South Western Chilli!

What do you think they make it with

 

[gordo12]

Anyone who'd give you flack for that isn't someone whose opinion is worth caring about. And they certainly aren't worth pandering to.

I don't consider it is pandering. Readers want and expect the literature to match the category. Obviously, that isn't always accurate, but I care enough to try. For me and my background, it's a marketing decision VS a fuck 'em if they don't like it artistic decision.

I think you'll be fine in romance, so long as the focus is primarily the romance. The IR elements can be part of the conflict, but they shouldn't overshadow the romance. So long as you deliver that, the romance readership seems to be relatively open-minded.

Conflict isn't part of the plot—the opposite, in fact.

 

[KeithD]

I'm working on a SWC (Small White Cock) story. I wonder how that will be received.

Not too deeply.

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

Not too deeply.

Well played sir. Well played.

 

[eroticstoryspinner]

I would like to think that the reader would care more about the story of the characters than the physical coloring, eye shape, etc. Sadly, a lot of people seem to get bent out of shape when the characters don't confirm to preconceived notions.

 

[vanmyers86]

Two of my romances feature Black men as the romantic leads. I've not had any criticism on either one, but neither played up the race aspect, either. It was just who they are, versus the whole BBC thing.

But then, about half my stories here have at least one main character who is not white, so maybe readers just expect it.

If race were a defining theme in a story, that might trigger some folks, sorry to say.

 

[RetroFan]

I've written a lot of stories with characters with different racial backgrounds and have never had any negative feedback. One story that involved a Caucasian girl and an African-American girl got one of my highest scores ever, and I really enjoyed writing one story with a boyfriend and girlfriend who are black and Asian respectively, an erotic combination you don't see too often.

Would I be brave enough to write one for Loving Wives? Um, no, probably not. I wrote one story earlier this year that I intended to go into LW where a grumpy man's floozy of a wife makes a fool of him all over town. As well as having an orgy with five 18-year-olds and screwing around with her married boss at work, she is also fucking the son of the Jewish family who live next door and sucks off the two guys at the gas station who are Latino and African American.

I chickened out with this story and put it into Group Sex where it flopped, but had i posted it in LW as initially intended I think it might have attracted some racist or anti-Semitic comments given what happens.

 

[ruddygore]

Amidst all the tentacles and aliens, no one has noticed that "Express Delivery"'s protag is Mexican.

I noticed the Spanish phrases and names he used, but just figured he grew up around the Rio Grande. Isn't that pretty normal for people growing up in that area?

 

[yukonnights]

As has already been said, I second (or third?) the opinion that the Romance category is more about the romance. I've written several stories with mixed heritage couples, and my upcoming V-day happens to be a story in Romance with the same dynamic. I agree that the most likely source of vitriol would come from the LW reader. I've never written one that might fit best in Interracial Love. Actually, it seems that category could go away. IMO, if IL is the main thrust of the story, I don't know — just seems outdated? I mean, how could that small detail actually be the main theme of the story

I include diversity, not because it's a critical element of the plot, but simply in recognition of the diversity of people reading here and the reality of it in everyday life.

 

[Hypoxia]

To me, IR means black male and white female, with explorations or exploitation of USA (mostly) racialized dynamics. I dislike that. I tag some stories as MultiRacial -- and writing multiracial incest was a fun challenge. But mainly, people meet people and they fuck. Caucasians, Africans, Asians and Islanders, indigenous peoples of the Americas, all get together and fuck. Maybe I'm a coward for not working on racialized dynamics. So sue me.

 

[SyleusSnow]

To me, IR means black male and white female, with explorations or exploitation of USA (mostly) racialized dynamics. I dislike that. I tag some stories as MultiRacial -- and writing multiracial incest was a fun challenge. But mainly, people meet people and they fuck. Caucasians, Africans, Asians and Islanders, indigenous peoples of the Americas, all get together and fuck. Maybe I'm a coward for not working on racialized dynamics. So sue me.

Hey... you're right! The top six all time high scoring stories in Interracial are all white man/black woman and explore race dynamic stuff from a US point of view. Dunno why, but I expected BBC and "demure asian" tropes to be the popular ones.

Erotica provides an interesting opportunity to explore cultural dynamics, but it gets so tedious. So much of it plays on the same tired old stereotypes. I agree... much more fun to have characters just get together in creative ways and boink, though maybe after an initial hand wave towards "race."

For my one entry in Interracial there's a (very) white male and (very) black female, but I purposely set out to invert or ignore the stereotypes... the characters struggle with their differences, but "race" isn't significant.

I wondered if the story would get nasty comments for bucking the expected tropes, but it got only one racist comment... the white male is pasty white, almost albino (because if you're going to contrast "race", why not make each extreme? *grin*). A reader said the white male criticizing his pasty appearance was akin to him being "ashamed of his race."

 

[gordo12]

I think I'll take a chance on Romantic and see how it goes. Lord knows I've survived the flame wars in LW. Romance should be a cruise on a flaming funeral pyre as it floats out to sea. Just avoid the arrow!