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[jaF0]

Well, 4 a long time ago and now:


Alan Canfora, May 4 Kent State University shooting survivor and expert, dies at 71

Cleveland.com|55 minutes ago

Alan Canfora, an outspoken survivor of the May 4, 1970 shooting at Kent State University and expert on the tragedy, has died. He was 71.


https://www.cleveland.com/metro/202...y-shooter-survivor-and-expert-dies-at-71.html



How could you run when you know?

 

[rae121452]

kent state was horrific and scarring. but no one ever even mentions the jackson state killings of black students on may 15, 1970 or the orangeburg massacre that took place in 1968.

 

[YDB95]

kent state was horrific and scarring. but no one ever even mentions the jackson state killings of black students on may 15, 1970 or the orangeburg massacre that took place in 1968.

Indeed, I remember Jackson State coming up in my history class in high school. I was the one who had to remind the teacher of it (she knew there was another campus shooting but she couldn't recall where), and she was a young adult at the time.

 

[OldJourno]

I was a high school sophomore when Kent State happened.
Mrs. Evans, my history teacher, brought up the shooting in class and asked for the general opinion, which seemed to be that the college students should have been in class and not stirring up trouble.
Good old Mrs. Evans let us know that protesting was a right and that getting shot for protesting was not acceptable.
Too bad she's not teaching these days, what with universities (and porn boards!) instituting speech codes and worrying about hate speech, hurt feelings and safe spaces.

 

[YDB95]

Too bad she's not teaching these days, what with universities (and porn boards!) instituting speech codes and worrying about hate speech, hurt feelings and safe spaces.

The same people who've been whining about speech codes and safe spaces today are the ones who were saying they should've shot more of the kids in 1970, OldJourno.

 

[EmptyTank]

tin soldiers and nixons coming

although i other think that for most of you right now it is
tin soldiers and trump is coming

 

[EmptyTank]

The same people who've been whining about speech codes and safe spaces today are the ones who were saying they should've shot more of the kids in 1970, OldJourno.

of course you have some evidence for this conjecture
i am not a fan of the campus trends but back in the day
i was with the occupy the deans office school of thought
i am somewhat ashamed of that now but when young everything is known

people circumstances class and philosophy are not static in the us
especially for those with the capacity to actually learn from their experience

 

[Wrong Element]

Canfora was the only survivor of the shooting whose name I was familiar with. I remember seeing him every May 4 with the long hair (that eventually began to thin).

The school has done a tremendous job of memorializing the shooting, so our historic memory of it won't die out even as the other survivors inevitably will.

 

[jaF0]

Wasn't familiar with the other two, but on a quick read, they don't seem to be the same. Both show at least some rioting and both involved local and state police, not NG.

 

[Champakian]

...

The school has done a tremendous job of memorializing the shooting, so our historic memory of it won't die out even as the other survivors inevitably will.

Even as we fight to erase the history of Native Americans, Civil War leaders (even Abolitionists), Christopher Columbus, "White" Literature/culture...,

 

[Champakian]

... but we seek to enshrine and immortalize every aberrant action by the military or police. We'll soon have a statue of William Calley on the mall in DC to remind us of what the military really is.

 

[icanhelp1]

The same people who've been whining about speech codes and safe spaces today are the ones who were saying they should've shot more of the kids in 1970, OldJourno.

It also changed many state and federal statutes as to armed military intervention with civilians. For years after Kent St. NG interactions with civilians were done with helmets, riot shields, baton, gas mask and a canteen full of water, with primary mission as purely support for local and state police unarmed. Katrina and recently in DC, guardsmen were allowed to carry weapons I believe due to a higher quality of training and combat deployments but still basically in a support role for state and local officials or for protecting federal property.

 

[rae121452]

Wasn't familiar with the other two, but on a quick read, they don't seem to be the same. Both show at least some rioting and both involved local and state police, not NG.

why is it that whenever black people protest it's 'a riot'? and those students are just as dead... for protesting.

 

[OldJourno]

The same people who've been whining about speech codes and safe spaces today are the ones who were saying they should've shot more of the kids in 1970, OldJourno.

Not sure what point you are trying to make.
When you say people are "whining about speech codes and safe spaces" does that mean they support them or oppose them.
I favor robust debate. Speech codes and "safe spaces," whatever the fuck that means, have no place on a university campus where the free flow of ideas are supposed to be part of day-to-day life.

 

[jaF0]

why is it that whenever black people protest it's 'a riot'? and those students are just as dead... for protesting.

Both incidents I read included some combination of rock throwing, smashing windows and/or setting fires. I don't recall any of that before Kent State.

 

[LLCox]

tin soldiers and nixons coming

although i other think that for most of you right now it is
tin soldiers and trump is coming

America dodged a bullet when trump lost.