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Fidel Castro dead

Not again? Someone drive a stake in his heart this time. :)
 
Apparently it true. It's on the newswires. I will believe it when they set up his corpse for the public viewing. I don't mean to be flippant but he has reported dead before.
 
Tis true, the ever reliable and honest BBC news confirms it. I will be the first and probably one of the few on here to say this is sad news.
 
RedAllan said:
Tis true, the ever reliable and honest BBC news confirms it. I will be the first and probably one of the few on here to say this is sad news.
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Well it's a bit late but sorry for your loss of Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot. Will you be wearing your Che Guevara shirt today?

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"Racist!"
 
Raul will get the crown. Raul is 85 and sees the writing on the wall. He has hand picked some young dude to be the next in line.

Maybe Cuba will get online in the next decade or so.
 
RedAllan said:
Tis true, the ever reliable and honest BBC news confirms it. I will be the first and probably one of the few on here to say this is sad news.
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He wouldn't suck American corporate cock, that makes him akin to Satan as far as the septics are concerned.
 


Like Mao Zedong (a/k/a Mao Tse-tung), he murdered thousands (millions in Zedong's case), caused immense misery, impoverished his country and ultimately...
...accomplished nothing.
(except provide yet another example of a dystopian, centrally-planned, authoritarian economy) ​




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The U.S.S.R. figured it out, the People's Republic of China figured it out, Poland figured it out, Bulgaria figured it out, Czechoslovakia (Slovakia & the Czech Republic) figured it out, Albania figured it out, Vietnam figured it out, the German Democratic Republic ( formerly known as "East Germany" ) figured it out, Kazhakstan figured it out, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania always had it figured out, Hungary figured it out, and Romania figured it out. Jesus H. Christ, even the fuckin' Cubans are finally figuring it out.

In fact, the only people who haven't figured it out seem to hang around here and in North Korea.





http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129757511
Reform On The Range: Cubans Heed The Call To Farm
by Nick Miroff
September 21, 2010
(NPR) Cuba has miles and miles of fertile, lush countryside where nothing is growing or grazing. After five decades of state-controlled agriculture, the country struggles to feed itself, forcing the government to import some 70 percent of the island's food.

Cuban President Raul Castro wants to change that and is asking enterprising Cubans to go back to the land.

Aniley Pena was watching TV two years ago when she heard the offer. The government was giving out free 10-year leases on state-owned land to anyone willing to take a crack at farming.

Today, she has 12 acres on the outskirts of Bejucal, a small town 20 miles south of Havana.

Pena is 38, rugged enough to trudge around in rubber boots, but not too earthy to wear mascara in the fields. She shields herself from the withering sun with a parasol and a Nike cap, supervising a team of men as they mix organic fertilizer into beds of radishes, carrots, scallions and spinach.

Pena's tractor is a little red Ford from the Truman era she inherited from her late grandfather. She has called her farm "Las Estrellas" — The Stars. Stars are bright, and they bring clarity, she said, which is what this new vocation has given her.

"Being out here relaxes me," Pena says. "Plus I know I'm doing something good for society, and also for myself."

Pena is the new face of Cuban socialism, a private entrepreneur...
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Anybody interested in the benefits of a centrally planned economy and communism?




Satellite image of the Korean peninsula at night
Source: Defense Meteorological Satellite Program
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Saint Peter said:
His lips made a nice tight seal around the Soviet cock.
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He didn't really have much choice seeing as the only other superpower on the planet tried to kill him dozens of times and tried to invade his country to restore the criminal tyrant Batista to power. Fidel had his faults, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty have documented thr repression of political dissidents for decades, but he stood up to US imperialism and kept his nation together through a crippling, illegal, US embargo. He was a long way from an enlightened liberal leader but he was far better than a shitload of the murdering scumbags that the US was propping up in Central and South America and Africa.
 
The third, and perhaps most disastrous of our failures, was the decision to give stature and support to one of the most bloody and repressive dictatorships in the long history of Latin American repression. Fulgencio Batista murdered 20,000 Cubans in 7 years - a greater proportion of the Cuban population than the proportion of Americans who died in both World Wars, and he turned democratic Cuba into a complete police state - destroying every individual liberty.

Yet, our aid to his regime, and the ineptness of our policies, enabled Batista to invoke the name of the United States in support of his reign of terror.

Administration spokesmen publicly praised Batista - hailed him as a stanch ally and a good friend - at a time when Batista was murdering thousands, destroying the last vestiges of freedom, and stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from the Cuban people, and we failed to press for free elections.

In October 1958 just a few days before Batista held a rigged and fraudulent election - Secretary of State Dulles was the guest of honor at a reception held by the Batista Embassy in Washington. The reception made only the social pages in Washington; but it made the Havana--and it was used by Batista to show how America favored his rule.

We stepped up a constant stream of weapons and munitions to Batista - justified in the name of hemispheric defense, when, in fact, their only real use was to crush the dictator's opposition, and even when the Cuban civil war was raging - until March of 1958 - the administration continued to send arms to Batista which were turned against the rebels - increasing anti-American feeling and helping to strengthen the influence of the Communists. For example, in Santa Clara, Cuba, today there is an exhibit commemorating the devastation of that city by Batista's planes in December of 1958. The star item in that exhibit is a collection of bomb fragments inscribed with a handshake and the words: "Mutual Defense - made in U.S.A."

John F. Kennedy
 
I'm old enough to remember the criminal thug Batista who Castro replaced in 1959.

Batista was a criminal who was owned lock stock and barrel by the American Mafia. Cruel fact is that Cubans are no worse off and no better off than they were under Batista. Castro gave Cubans a decent health system (Cubans live longer than Americans) and also a decent education system , tho' little else, especially economically.

American economic sanctions destroyed the Cuban sugar industry - and cost American taxpayers billions in subsidies to their own inefficient beet farmers over the years.

Neither Democrats nor Republicans could concede anything to Castro because the Cuban ex-pat vote was so important in swing state Florida.

And of course there was the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

America's record on Cuba is nothing to crow about. If US politicians hadn't been in hock to the expat vote for years, they could have got rid of the murderous old bastard years ago. Opposition shores regimes like Castro's up, but if those regimes are offered the 'fruits of capitalism' that will create enough internal dissent to bring them down.
 
Sean said:
The third, and perhaps most disastrous of our failures, was the decision to give stature and support to one of the most bloody and repressive dictatorships in the long history of Latin American repression. Fulgencio Batista murdered 20,000 Cubans in 7 years - a greater proportion of the Cuban population than the proportion of Americans who died in both World Wars, and he turned democratic Cuba into a complete police state - destroying every individual liberty.
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But that was all ok since he was anti-communist, pro USA and pro US mobster.
It's only when a communist does it that it's bad.

colddiesel said:
America's record on Cuba is nothing to crow about.
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One of the biggest understatements I've seen here in some time.

You mention the expats politicians sucked up to. I don't understand them ignoring all the expats who came here fleeing Batista. Oh, wait, yes I do, Batista was a pro-american thug.
 
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I am not a crowing American. We did some fucked up shit. The fact that the dude kept it together all of these years is a tribute to his tenacity. The fact that he allowed the Soviets to put nuclear warheads on his soil was never forgotten.
 
Saint Peter said:
I am not a crowing American. We did some fucked up shit. The fact that the dude kept it together all of these years is a tribute to his tenacity. The fact that he allowed the Soviets to put nuclear warheads on his soil was never forgotten.
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Our nuclear missiles in Turkey (in place before the Russian missiles were put in Cuba) were closer to Moscow than Russia's missiles in Cuba were from DC.
The US took part in an invasion of Russia to put down the Bolshevik revolution, the Russians never forgot that.

Most Americans refuse to learn from our mistakes.
 
Now those lucky Cubans will get a McDonald's on every corner! Welcome to the 21st century!
 
about_average said:
Most Americans refuse to learn from our mistakes.
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I am not sure that I agree with you on this. Most Americans have no say in foreign policy. What diplomats and military leaders do they do without my input.

Guilt by association. We did some fucked up shit. We continue to do fucked up shit. We suck at learning.
 
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