feminist partner

[DeservingBitch]

deserving bitch

i kind of love you.

*blushing like a school girl*
Well, I've had an internet crush on you since a while, so it's reciprocal!

And yes, it's always kind of weird to me when some otherwise gender bending sexually progressive people get all weirded out by BDSM. I think part of it is my bias (naivete?) to assume that people who are somehow social outcast or victims of prejudice would be more sensitive to other people's oppression and 'non-normality'.

As for the feminist debate on porn, I think there are a lot of valid arguments about how porn is problematic. I'm certainly not a big fan of mainstream porn either. But I think that most of the time, the focus is put on sex being exploitative rather then on the working conditions of sex-workers and the social context in which porn takes place which are far more exploitative and problematic than the sex in itself.

female supremacists

Hmmm. I don't think this is the appropriate term.

Most feminist who would fit the profile of anti-porn/anti-sex-work/anti-BDSM feminists are usually what is known in feminist circles as 'radical feminists' ('radical' because of their theoretical foundations which draw heavily from a (mis-)reading of marxist theory. Not 'radical' in the sense 'crazy'). Female supremacy isn't something that is argued for or promoted by radical feminism.

 

[ammre]

So . . . what would YOU call 'em?

beh. Some part of me is bothered that we're trying to find yet another negative term for women who think outside the box.
Really, I call them theorists. I don't think they are wrong, I just don't think that a solution is possible that can satisfy the correct points on both sides of the argument. We can't seem to figure out a good middle ground between a Matriarchy and a Patriarchy so it will always be an Us/them concept.
Which came first? the chicken or the egg? nurture vs nature? the programmed thought or the reprogrammed thought?

There's never going to be a solution. That doesn't make everything they say wrong, or everything you say right, so maybe avoid using negative stereotypical lables...

DB-
Radical is also a hard term to use. I know some people who are considered radical feminists becasue of their work in making public and unionizing prostitution. Or even just suggesting gender neutral bathrooms.

 

[DeservingBitch]

DB-
Radical is also a hard term to use. I know some people who are considered radical feminists becasue of their work in making public and unionizing prostitution. Or even just suggesting gender neutral bathrooms.

Depending how you use this term, in what context, and who is your audience. Hence my qualifying here of where the term radical feminist is usually described as coming from.

I don't see 'radical feminism' as a harsh or pejorative term. It's a theoretical/political perspective to me. Some of which makes a lot of sense, a lot of really great political work has come out of it, but also a lot of which I disagree strongly with, namely the common radical feminist position on sexuality, prostitution or transgender people.

Of course, any generalization is going to be unfair to the details and specifics and to particular individual espousing those politics.

 

[JMohegan]

Hmmm. I don't think this is the appropriate term.

Most feminist who would fit the profile of anti-porn/anti-sex-work/anti-BDSM feminists are usually what is known in feminist circles as 'radical feminists' ('radical' because of their theoretical foundations which draw heavily from a (mis-)reading of marxist theory. Not 'radical' in the sense 'crazy'). Female supremacy isn't something that is argued for or promoted by radical feminism.

I was responding to Graceanne's description of women who insist that "their way is the ONLY WAY".

To address Ammre's point, I do not use the term as a pejorative, but rather a literal descriptor of people who assert that advocacy on behalf of their (female-identified) issues should be given more weight than any other, and who insist that their (female) opinions should be granted greater authority than those of any male.

I accept that the term may be inaccurate in the context of official feminist jargon.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

I have read this thread, parts of it reminded me of an essay by Polly Peachum that I posted in 2006.

To the OP, if I have missed the mark, you have my apologies, it's been a long day and the brain is weary here.

Link

Warning, it's a long read

 

[Shankara20]

I have read this thread, parts of it reminded me of an essay by Polly Peachum that I posted in 2006.

To the OP, if I have missed the mark, you have my apologies, it's been a long day and the brain is weary here.

Link

Warning, it's a long read

thank you

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

thank you

My pleasure and have I told you recently how much I love you Fu ?

Consider yourself told

 

[Shankara20]

My pleasure and have I told you recently how much I love you Fu ?

Consider yourself told