(Females) How were you seduced by another female?

[DarkMoon1]

I'm just curious of the methods that may have been used to seduce a woman by another woman into lesbianism/bisexual encounters.

 

[Cattypuss]

(1) I think you're looking for the GLBT board

(2) We are women, not "females".

 

[DarkMoon1]

right you are catty! My humble apologies. I will do better next time. Isn't a female a woman? Or an uearthy creature walking on 2 legs, just curious. Whats the difference?

 

[Cattypuss]

Longer answer - 'female' began life as an adjective. Its use as a noun is relatively recent and carries sense of distance - in my experience it is used by men who hate/fear/misunderstand women.

Shorter answer - when was the last time you heard a woman refer to women as "females"? (Rhetorical question - no reply needed or indeed wanted.)

 

[JMohegan]

Longer answer - 'female' began life as an adjective. Its use as a noun is relatively recent and carries sense of distance - in my experience it is used by men who hate/fear/misunderstand women.

Shorter answer - when was the last time you heard a woman refer to women as "females"? (Rhetorical question - no reply needed or indeed wanted.)

I use the term female when I'm talking about an unspecified human with a vagina (i.e., not a particular individual.) The gender opposite of "guy," because "gal" is just goofy.

To me, it is more casual than "woman" (the opposite of which is clearly "man") and far more respectful than "girl" (opposite of "boy"). I was taught long ago that anyone over 18 is properly described as an adult, and use of the diminutive is way out of line.

 

[Cattypuss]

'female' is more casual than 'woman'?

Weird. OK I will bow out - maybe there's a MAJOR difference on that other side of the Atlantic there.

 

[JMohegan]

'female' is more casual than 'woman'?

Weird. OK I will bow out - maybe there's a MAJOR difference on that other side of the Atlantic there.

I'm sure there's a major difference, even within the regions of this country.

Most people I know use the term "woman." That's definitely the most respectful way to go.

 

[ownedsubgal]

it is not unusual in the states for women to be referred to as "females," even in everyday casual conversation, such as a young guy saying, "it's impossible trying to figure out these females today." a man may also directly refer to a specific woman as "female," such as, "female, hurry up and get your butt down here, we're going to be late!"

i kinda like being referred to as "female." it's simultaneously objectifying and affectionate. but of course i also like being referred to as "girl." a friend/client of mine often refers to me that way, "what's up girl?" "be quiet girl"...when he's feeling especially tender toward me. i dig it. it totally boggles my mind that there are women actually offended by being called "girl."

 

[JMohegan]

A grown man referred to as "boy" will get pissed off, in many cases. And rightfully so.

There's a parallel here that makes sense to me. And why I dropped "girl" from adult female reference a long time ago.

But lots of people (of both genders) use girl when referring to adults, with no offense taken and no problem.

 

[subish2009]

I think this comes down to a generational thing, as well as personal preference for levels of formality depending upon with whom you're speaking.

ETA: Personally, I like being called girl, female, or woman, as long as it's done with friendly, respectful, and well-meaning intent.

 

[ownedsubgal]

A grown man referred to as "boy" will get pissed off, in many cases. And rightfully so.

There's a parallel here that makes sense to me. And why I dropped "girl" from adult female reference a long time ago.

But lots of people (of both genders) use girl when referring to adults, with no offense taken and no problem.

"boy" is absolutely offensive, as of yet i haven't encountered a man who would not take that as the highest insult. i just don't see the parallel you're referring to. when a woman is called "girl," it is the speaker's way of saying they still find her youthful and desirable, not immature or insubstantial as in "boy." i envision only femnazis and bull-headed roaring "independent" woman types being offended by "girl."

 

[DarkMoon1]

Which do you prefer woman or female?

I need to change the thread title to "Which do you prefer Woman or female, and why? just sayin

 

[ownedsubgal]

I need to change the thread title to "Which do you prefer Woman or female, and why? just sayin

in case you have not noticed, your thread has been utterly hijacked, as the topic is not a bdsm topic, sowwy.

 

[DarkMoon1]

in case you have not noticed, your thread has been utterly hijacked, as the topic is not a bdsm topic, sowwy.

lol, its all good!! I really had no intentions of anything meaningfull just throwin in the wind

 

[JMohegan]

"boy" is absolutely offensive, as of yet i haven't encountered a man who would not take that as the highest insult. i just don't see the parallel you're referring to. when a woman is called "girl," it is the speaker's way of saying they still find her youthful and desirable, not immature or insubstantial as in "boy." i envision only femnazis and bull-headed roaring "independent" woman types being offended by "girl."

As long as men still want to fuck her, what more could she possibly want?

Believe it or not, a person with a vagina doesn't have to be rabid to appreciate the notion of maturity and substantial presence in adulthood, regardless of gender.

And as for that part in bold - if you think there's never an attempt by the speaker to disparage females through use of the diminutive term, you just haven't been paying attention. Or maybe your view reflects the fact that you still are young and desirable. Or perhaps the fact that you've never been a guy in a room with only men.

 

[Cattypuss]

OK I'm curious now. In the States, would a woman use "female" or "females" to refer to another woman or to women?

A woman in the UK would never in a million years do that.

However, women refer to each other as "girls" all the time here. Well into middle age. I do it myself and I am on the receiving end of it myself (at the grand old age of 42), and I have no problem with it whatsoever.

 

[DarkMoon1]

quite often as female

 

[DarkMoon1]

for instance I work with a female (never would guess it). I often call looking for employees through agencies and they prepare Me wether they are "female" or not.

 

[Cattypuss]

for instance I work with a female (never would guess it). I often call looking for employees through agencies and they prepare Me wether they are "female" or not.

I think you are thinking of the adjectival use there? "A female employee"? "Is the person female"? I was asking more about the use as a noun.

 

[DarkMoon1]

I think you are thinking of the adjectival use there? "A female employee"? "Is the person female"? I was asking more about the use as a noun.

I cannot comment I am never around more than 1 female at a time

 

[JMohegan]

OK I'm curious now. In the States, would a woman use "female" or "females" to refer to another woman or to women?

A woman in the UK would never in a million years do that.

However, women refer to each other as "girls" all the time here. Well into middle age. I do it myself and I am on the receiving end of it myself (at the grand old age of 42), and I have no problem with it whatsoever.

My college-aged niece refers to her peers as girls and older women as women.

Educated, non-southern east coast women of my generation refer to women as women, almost universally.

My mother uses the term woman, but I'd say her generation is mixed.

 

[Cattypuss]

Would love to know the answer though from someone who has ever been in the company of more than one woman at a time (where the fuck do you hang out???) or indeed from someone who is a woman.

Edited to add - thamks, JM - so they don't refer to each other as "females" then - just like on this side of the Atlantic.

 

[JMohegan]

Would love to know the answer though from someone who has ever been in the company of more than one woman at a time (where the fuck do you hang out???) or indeed from someone who is a woman.

Edited to add - thamks, JM - so they don't refer to each other as "females" then - just like on this side of the Atlantic.

To my knowledge, no, they usually don't.

 

[DarkMoon1]

if female is so demeaning then shouldn't a womanizer (Woman organizer) be a feminist, and a feminist (against female) a womanizer

 

[00Syd]

"female" as a noun sounds very cold and removed to me. It almost sounds scientific to my ears, like "females" are a species to be studied under the microscope. I've never heard anyone refer to women as "females" in a way the didn't sound demening to me. But that could just be me.