Feds shut down Amish farm for selling fresh milk

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The FDA has won its two-year fight to shut down an Amish farmer who was selling fresh, raw milk to eager consumers in the Washington region, after a judge this month banned Daniel Allgyer from selling his milk across state lines, and he told his customers he'll shut his farm down altogether.

The decision has enraged Mr. Allgyer's supporters, some of whom have been buying from him for six years and who say the government is interfering with their parental rights to feed their children. But the Food and Drug Administration, which launched a full investigation complete with a 5 a.m. surprise inspection and a straw-purchase sting operation against Mr. Allgyer's Rainbow Acres Farm, near Lancaster, said unpasteurized milk is unsafe and said it was exercising its due authority to stop its sale from one state to another.

Adding to Mr. Allgyer's troubles, Judge Lawrence F. Stengel said if he is found to violate the law again he will have to pay the FDA's costs for investigating and prosecuting him.

His customers are wary of talking publicly, fearing the FDA will come after them.

"I can't believe in 2012 the federal government is raiding Amish farmers at gunpoint all over a basic human right to eat natural food," said one, who asked not to be named but who got weekly shipments of eggs, milk, honey and butter from Rainbow Acres. "In Maryland, they force taxpayers to pay for abortions, but God forbid we want the same milk our grandparents drank."

The FDA, though, said the judge made the right call in halting Mr. Allgyer's cross-border sales.

"Intrastate sale of raw milk is allowed in Pennsylvania, and Mr. Allgyer had previously received a warning letter advising him that interstate sale of raw milk for human consumption is illegal," said Siobhan DeLancey, spokeswoman for the agency.

Fans of fresh milk, which they also call "raw milk," attribute all kinds of health benefits to it — from better teeth to stronger immune systems. It is particularly popular among parents who want it for their children, and, in a unique twist, the movement unites those on the left and the right who argue the federal government has no business controlling what people choose to eat.

They rallied outside of the Capitol last year, drinking fresh milk in a park across Constitution Avenue from the Senate.

But the FDA says that, after extensive study along with the Centers for Disease Control, it concluded there is no time when raw milk is safer. They dispute those who say that pasteurization — the process of heating food to kill harmful organisms — makes milk less healthy.

Many food safety researchers say pasteurization, which became widespread in the 1920s and 1930s, dramatically reduced instances of milk-transmitted diseases such as typhoid fever and diphtheria.

The FDA began looking into Mr. Allgyer in late 2009, when an investigator in the agency's Baltimore office used aliases to sign up for a Yahoo user group made up of Rainbow Acres' customers.

The investigator placed orders for fresh milk and had it delivered to private residences in Maryland where it was picked up and documented as evidence in the case. By crossing state lines it became part of interstate commerce, and thus subject to the FDA's ban.

At one point the FDA made a 5 a.m. visit to Mr. Allgyer's farm but he turned them away, though not before they observed milk containers labeled for shipment to Maryland.

After the FDA first took action Mr. Allgyer changed his business model. He arranged to sell shares in the cows themselves to his customers, arguing that they owned the milk and he was only transferring it to them.

But Judge Stengel called that deal "merely a subterfuge."

"The practical result of the arrangement is that consumers pay money to Mr. Allgyer and receive raw milk," the judge wrote in a 13-page opinion.

The "Grassfed On the Hill Buying Club" has about 500 active members.

Liz Reitzig, a mom who has become a raw-milk activist and is an organizer of the group, said the lawyers who pursued the case against Mr. Allgyer ought to "be ashamed."

"Many families are dependent on the milk for health reasons or nutritional needs, so a lot of people will be desperately trying to find another source now," she said.
 
People will soon realize the government knows what is best for them.:cool:
 
People will soon realize the government knows what is best for them.:cool:

Better than some fucking yahoos who wear funny hats and can't operate anything more complicated than a hammer. Given the choice of a group of people who build spaceships vs. some ass backwards hillbillies drive horse drawn carriages I'll go with the former.
 
They broke the law by crossing state lines. Simple, really.

Of course it is simple. Except for stupid people, then it is an out of control Federal Government. We can't expect stupid people to understand simple facts. What is sad is we still let these stupid people vote.
 
I will stick to my pasteurized milk.

I recall years ago a study stated after a certain age milk did not benefit us but after the Dairy Assoc threatened to sue the study results went away.
 
There's no reason adults should drink milk, and lots of reasons why they shouldn't.

The dairy associations are skilled and influential lobbyists. They will do what they have to in order to protect their industry, public health be damned. Milk processing is big business, and raw milk producers are a real threat to it.

http://www.idfa.org/news--views/headline-news/details/6932/
 
you know, as soon as i saw it was an amish farmer, i just knew it would be my state.

Whether its a silly law or not, it IS the law and he was breaking it. They gave him opportunity to stop it and all he did was try to be clever in how he did it. I am not a big fan of the goverment, but i am less of a fan of the Amish and how they do things below the radar
 
There's no reason adults should drink milk, and lots of reasons why they shouldn't.

The dairy associations are skilled and influential lobbyists. They will do what they have to in order to protect their industry, public health be damned. Milk processing is big business, and raw milk producers are a real threat to it.

http://www.idfa.org/news--views/headline-news/details/6932/

you know, as soon as i saw it was an amish farmer, i just knew it would be my state.

Whether its a silly law or not, it IS the law and he was breaking it. They gave him opportunity to stop it and all he did was try to be clever in how he did it. I am not a big fan of the goverment, but i am less of a fan of the Amish and how they do things below the radar

Has it ever dawned on you two that raw milk producers have been around long before the FDA? They see milk processing from big business as a real threat to them. Some numbnut comes around and says "This is the law!" and you just go with it?
 
Most of the milk magically turns into cheese. It's much easier to smuggle across the border that way.

(I used to be a mule for the ADA.)
 
Has it ever dawned on you two that raw milk producers have been around long before the FDA? They see milk processing from big business as a real threat to them. Some numbnut comes around and says "This is the law!" and you just go with it?

Did that really come out of your freakin' brain? Really? Really, really?

I am stunned, nay totally flummoxed. I have no words.....



Comshaw
 
Did that really come out of your freakin' brain? Really? Really, really?

I am stunned, nay totally flummoxed. I have no words.....



Comshaw

Yes it did. I noted you took the time to scream it out in larger text and color it red.:rolleyes:

Stay stunned. Continue to have no words.
 
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More manufactured outrage.

The Amish are subject to interstate commerce laws just like everyone else. "Fresh" milk is a historically a vector for a whole host of very serious diseases so its' distribution range is limited.

Being Amish or any other religion/culture is not permission to break the law.
 
More manufactured outrage.

The Amish are subject to interstate commerce laws just like everyone else. "Fresh" milk is a historically a vector for a whole host of very serious diseases so its' distribution range is limited.

Being Amish or any other religion/culture is not permission to break the law.

Please pass the peyote....
 
More manufactured outrage.

The Amish are subject to interstate commerce laws just like everyone else. "Fresh" milk is a historically a vector for a whole host of very serious diseases so its' distribution range is limited.

Being Amish or any other religion/culture is not permission to break the law.

And I bet you would think differently if you were the one buying their product, right?
 
selling milk is part of a religious ritual? :confused:

Definition of PEYOTE

1
: a hallucinogenic drug containing mescaline that is derived from peyote buttons and used especially in the religious ceremonies of some American Indian peoples
2
: a small low spineless cactus (Lophophora williamsii) of the southwestern United States and Mexico having rounded stems covered with jointed tubercles —called also mescal
 
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