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...or What Makes a Writing Star.

I thought I'd plop this off as a new thread, since it tiptoed away from what the original was about. Besides, I was in a thread starting mood.
davidwatts said:
I never read Harry Potter nor do I plan to, but the idea of dismissing a writer's success or crediting it solely to clever marketing seems a bit off. If it were that easy it seems like there would be a Rowling or a Stephen King popping up every year, since I would think every major publishing house would want one of their own.
But there is.

There's a whole battery of authors that I would label "fad authors". Novelists that are well read simply because they are well marketed. This doesn't mean that they are no good at writing. They are pretty damn good at the craft, and their books may have some artistic value (wghatever that is). But so are most authors.

In fact, two times out of three when I pick up a mainstream published book by a real novelist (not some celebrity who got to write one because their name would sell), I thoroughly enjoy it. And when I compare it with my experience when reading the Big Writing Stars (some examples below), is that they are pretty much equally good writing and storytelling and equally interresting stories being told.

This leads me to the conclusion that "fad authors" are average competent writers with way above average name branding support from their publisher. How did they get this support? An early display of good sales due to an unexpectedly large target group. Publisher smells money, and maximize their efforts.

Look at JK Rowling. She wrote an adventure book for kids. That was read by adults too. A significant UK success was picked up by the media, spread like bushfire, and all of a sudden, she is God.

And for that matter, look at Terry Pratchett (yep, a fad author too. there are other players on his court that doesn't get the same attention as him) Lives a pretty quiet life as a writer of quirky humouros fairy tales, but has not yet risen to stardom. But gains more and more loyal fans. Then, as the prolonged echo of Monthy Python dies down and Douglas Adams goes on a permanent hitch-hike in the sky, he is left to carry the torch of British humor. By consistency with keeping the Discwordld brand going (Let's face it, many of those stories would had been just as valid outside of that world - keeping the line of Discworld nivels intact is a marketing move from TP.) his fame versus other good authors has also grown out of proportion.

Last year's fad (or was it 2003?) was a guy who took a few old hocus pocus myths, piggybacked on a wave of neo-spiritualism and wrote a pretty good spy story around it. It got picked up by a trend sensitive publisher and given so much juice PR-wise that I thought it was the second coming. His name was Dan. Dan Brown.

There are more. John Grisham is an old favourite. Fantasy writer David Eddings another - pretty much the Rowling of the early 90's, but for teenage boys. Simple, sympathetic easy-reading books about magic and stuff.

Who is this years fad? Can't say for sure. Susanna Clarke might have a shot. If the sales points in the right direction, I wouldn't be suprised to see more massive promotion of her "Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell". But then again, Potter #6 (is it #6?) is here, so getting a word up might be hard.

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You also forgot the chicken soup for the soul people, the people who wrote the revelation books . .(can't rememberthe titles), theres also Lemony Snicket ( fun stories but several authors on here are better), also there is Wally Lamb (very talented, but definitely a Fad AUthor due to Oprah Winfrey's Book Club)

Many many authors are fad authors. Stephen King, Dean Koontz, John Saul, Danielle Steele, Terry Brooks, just to name a few. They were all fad author's. Under sheer mass marketing and tons of publicity, they got major major results. Yes they can write, but they are also fad authors.
 
The only way to determine if some one is a fad authour is if people, other than literature profs and their students, are still reading their stuff in a hundred years.
 
Liar said:
There's a whole battery of authors that I would label "fad authors".

I think there are 'One Hit Wonders" in the publishing insutry, just as there are in the recording industry.

Author like JK Rowlings get a start by word of mouth and hit a best seller list or win an award of some sort, and that triggers a marketing effot that pushes them to other best-selling list and considertion for other awards or build a "cross-over" following withfns of other genres -- like a coutry song hitting the Pop Charts

Some of them go on to write other books or series that are well received and become "stars" and others can't build on intital successes. Other authors get "type-cast" and can't sell anything that isn't connected to their "hit novel."

Fantasy authors, like Terry Brooks often gain prominence for a first book -- like TB's Sword of Shannara -- but can't sustain the popularity in sequels or duplicate the magic in other stettings. Terry Brooks wrote another series about a magical kingdom named Landover which just kind of faded away after three or four increasingly bad sequels and has gone back to writing stories in the "Shannara" universe -- which don't quite measure up to the standard he set in the original but sell because of the "shannara brand."

Frank Herbert had much the same thing happen with his book Dune -- none of his his fans or cross-over readers for Dune would accept anything from him that wasn't a sequel or prequel to Dune and none of those "Dune brand" stories really measured up to the standard he set.

Marketing has a lot to do with super-stars like JK Rowlings, but they have to keep up whatever it was about the first book that gave the marketing machine a toehold to get started with. It will be a couple of years yet before we can say she's just a one hit wonder or can write something other than "Harry Potter."
 
Would you call Harper Lee not a major author, even though she wrote only one novel? (To Kill A Mockingbird).

I think you can't measure the quality of any creative artist by the quantity of their work.
 
Dar~ said:
You also forgot the chicken soup for the soul people, the people who wrote the revelation books . .
It is my humble and objective opinion that Tim LaHaye should die. :D
 
SophiaY said:
Would you call Harper Lee not a major author, even though she wrote only one novel? (To Kill A Mockingbird).

I think you can't measure the quality of any creative artist by the quantity of their work.
Amen. Louisa May Alcott and Jane Austen also come to mind.
 
Sunnie said:
Amen. Louisa May Alcott and Jane Austen also come to mind.

A thought: Not only do some authors write too much, but many readers go through too many books, too fast. We treat novels like bon-bons, mind candy, instead of savoring them like a rich bouillabaisse...
 
Dar~ said:
Many many authors are fad authors. Stephen King, Dean Koontz, John Saul, Danielle Steele, Terry Brooks, just to name a few. They were all fad author's. Under sheer mass marketing and tons of publicity, they got major major results. Yes they can write, but they are also fad authors.

Were they fad authors, though? I'm not sure. We can say that, but in truth, there's at least some level of publicity for nearly any author whose work is being released and has some sort of mainstream appeal or high quality about it. Sooner or later, we have to look at the simple fact that the publicity is about the publisher's money, and any time said publisher can pull aforementioned money... Fad authors are born. The question is: Are you a fad author if you can continue to write, and produce quality pieces, in the minds of the public at least, mainstream or not, even after the initial fad has fallen off.

Another thing to consider is this: Would some fo the authors we're discussing be able to continue their success without the successes within the grasp continuing. For clarity (since I didn't make that at all clear): Could Rowling be successful with a novel unrelated to Harry Potter? The story has people involved, but does the author?

King has proven time and again that he's capable of coming up with new stories and continuing to sell, though he does tend to stay within certain bounds in his novels, he's also offering a lot of space between one work and another. Bag of Bones, The Stand, and the Dark Tower books are all very different, evnthough you can wrap a single genre around them (if you should choose to).

Can Rowling do that? And if she can, does she still qualify as a fad author?

Q_C
 
SophiaY said:
A thought: Not only do some authors write too much, but many readers go through too many books, too fast. We treat novels like bon-bons, mind candy, instead of savoring them like a rich bouillabaisse...
I'd say some novels ARE bonbons, and others, far fewer, are full course meals. The happiest reader is probably the one who can balance those.
 
Liar said:
...or What Makes a Writing Star.

I thought I'd plop this off as a new thread, since it tiptoed away from what the original was about. Besides, I was in a thread starting mood.
But there is.

There's a whole battery of authors that I would label "fad authors". Novelists that are well read simply because they are well marketed. This doesn't mean that they are no good at writing. They are pretty damn good at the craft, and their books may have some artistic value (wghatever that is). But so are most authors.

In fact, two times out of three when I pick up a mainstream published book by a real novelist (not some celebrity who got to write one because their name would sell), I thoroughly enjoy it. And when I compare it with my experience when reading the Big Writing Stars (some examples below), is that they are pretty much equally good writing and storytelling and equally interresting stories being told.

This leads me to the conclusion that "fad authors" are average competent writers with way above average name branding support from their publisher. How did they get this support? An early display of good sales due to an unexpectedly large target group. Publisher smells money, and maximize their efforts.

Look at JK Rowling. She wrote an adventure book for kids. That was read by adults too. A significant UK success was picked up by the media, spread like bushfire, and all of a sudden, she is God.

And for that matter, look at Terry Pratchett (yep, a fad author too. there are other players on his court that doesn't get the same attention as him) Lives a pretty quiet life as a writer of quirky humouros fairy tales, but has not yet risen to stardom. But gains more and more loyal fans. Then, as the prolonged echo of Monthy Python dies down and Douglas Adams goes on a permanent hitch-hike in the sky, he is left to carry the torch of British humor. By consistency with keeping the Discwordld brand going (Let's face it, many of those stories would had been just as valid outside of that world - keeping the line of Discworld nivels intact is a marketing move from TP.) his fame versus other good authors has also grown out of proportion.

Last year's fad (or was it 2003?) was a guy who took a few old hocus pocus myths, piggybacked on a wave of neo-spiritualism and wrote a pretty good spy story around it. It got picked up by a trend sensitive publisher and given so much juice PR-wise that I thought it was the second coming. His name was Dan. Dan Brown.

There are more. John Grisham is an old favourite. Fantasy writer David Eddings another - pretty much the Rowling of the early 90's, but for teenage boys. Simple, sympathetic easy-reading books about magic and stuff.

Who is this years fad? Can't say for sure. Susanna Clarke might have a shot. If the sales points in the right direction, I wouldn't be suprised to see more massive promotion of her "Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell". But then again, Potter #6 (is it #6?) is here, so getting a word up might be hard.

#L



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YOU WOMBAT! But what is this year, Love? Look back or go beyond? Or can't you make it?
 
Larry Niven. Raymond E Feist. Orson Scott Card.

Edgar Ryce Burroughs! Yea Mars series!
I wonder if they'll ever make a movie?
 
Sunnie said:
Amen. Louisa May Alcott and Jane Austen also come to mind.

I don't know about LMA, but Jane Austen wrote something like 10 major novels.

Not bad for a time when women weren't supposed to write much of anything.
 
I feel like Grisham was the ultimate Fad Author. Of course, he was one of those that got popular once they made movies from his books. Perhaps his greatest skill as an author was the fact his books translated to screenplays so easily?

I don't think it's fair to call Stephen King a fad author. His body of work has been popular long enough to disallow that title for me. Danielle Steel is more of a "pulp genre" author. She appeals to one nice very, very well.

Do you separate out one hit wonders and fads? Does an author need to have cross genre appeal to be a fad? I don't think Orson Scott Card is very well known by non Sci-Fi readers. Ender's Game is considerably better than anything else of his I've read, but I'm not sure he ever was big enough to be a "fad".
 
I thought this site may be of interest for this discussion:

http://www.caderbooks.com/bestintro.html

It is the top 10 bestsellers as measured Publishers Weekly for every year from 1900 to 1998.

One thing that it clearly shows is how faddish almost all best-selling authors are, and how they rarely last.

To give you a taste of it, this the list for 1950:


1. The Cardinal, Henry Morton Robinson
2. Joy Street, Frances Parkinson Keyes
3. Across the River and into the Trees, Ernest Hemingway
4. The Wall, John Hersey
5. Star Money, Kathleen Winsor
6. The Parasites, Daphne du Maurier
7. Floodtide, Frank Yerby
8. Jubilee Trail, Gwen Bristow
9. The Adventurer, Mika Waltari
10. The Disenchanted, Budd Schulberg

A few well known, and enduring names, but the marjority are now forgotten.
 
rgraham666 said:
The only way to determine if some one is a fad authour is if people, other than literature profs and their students, are still reading their stuff in a hundred years.

I agree. I don't think that anyone has enough information to credibly propose that Rowling or Susanna Clarke (who just released her first full-length novel for heaven's sake) are "fad authors".
 
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