Evolution vs Religion

bellisarius

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Or Religion vs Evolution if you choose.

Before I dive in let me state up front that I reject any, and all, forms of organized religion.

From a young age I studied religions, every one that I could read about. All of them professed to know the 'truth.' And most of them demanded that I give them part of my wealth so they could spread the 'truth.'

Invariably their truths were based on HOW you should follow THEIR particular truth.

BUT

Going back as far as I've been able to discover ALL of these religions have a common denominator as far as ethics within their own tribe.

All of these many and varied religions have 'rules.' And if you divorce the rules from the religions you find that they are remarkably alike. So I think, why? Well, the only reason that makes any sort of sense to me is that those particular 'rules' are the only way you can create anything that can be called an "organized" society.

Pick up any core work of any great religion, Islam excepted, it's garbage, and you'll find rules to live be, rules to raise your children by. Take the Bible for example. Divorce every phrase in that book that refers to God and read it as if it were written by Shakespeare. Fiction with a historical perspective. While fiction is, indeed, fiction there can be no doubt that humanity takes a great many lessons form fiction. There were as many observational truths in "Forrest Gump" as there were flaws. Fiction is nothing more than a tool to focus the mind on the important lessons the life has to put on your plate.

You can not claim on the one hand that others are to blame for your lot in life and on the other adhere to free will. To do so is to condemn yourself to perpetual slavery. You have admitted to yourself, and society, that you have no control over your own life.

You can not claim on one hand that you are an evolutionary products of apes and yet on the other that you are immune from the evolutionary imperatives that being the monkey your are brings with it.

Society violates the rules of order at it's own peril
 
Too waffling, didn't read.
Can someone give a concise version?
 
I think he said Catholic girls are best for bondage and submission.
 
Could you please clarify a bit more what you meant?
I read it as something in the line of " Post-modernism describes itself as a liberation theory, when in fact it's full of contradictions and is anything But."

Post-modernism claims that the myths people lived and live by are socially constructed and subjective, so their rules are potentially oppressive.
You said no, they generally reflect Universal truths and their rules are necessary for harmonious cohabitation.You also pointed out to the contradiction that postmodernists expect other people to respect Their truth, while they disrespect those people's truths.

Post-modernism had clear advantages as a critique of the previous cult of rationality and an anti-oppressive movement.
But I also subscribe to a 'ladyFunkenstein type of conspiracy theory'.
I feel that parts of it have been co-opted or subverted by some, into an anti-faith movement. Destroying one's faith (be it science, religion or whatever) doesn't always equal freedom; it can easily lead to demoralization and amotivation, or to neoliberal self-commodification.
 
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Remember the old discussion? Societies "evolve" (a claim usually based upon technological advances). All we have now is a situation where we no longer need religious rules or culturally-shared rules, but more of a flexibility, a tolerance for those who follow other rules, which boils down to any rule sets other than religion and tradition, because, you know, we have iPhones and internet now and because we are so interconnected we are so superior and above those stodgy rules of the past where the religious and the traditionalists imposed their rules upon us. Crime, sin, malfeasance? In the eye of the beholder.
 
All religion good except islam. You know, the normal drivel from him.

You're close, but not quite.

My take on the Ishmael jibba jabba: All religions are based on moral codes, but Ishmael's personal moral code is better than any of their codes, and Islam is worse than every other moral code.

#DerpWithoutEndAmen
 
Or Religion vs Evolution if you choose.

Before I dive in let me state up front that I reject any, and all, forms of organized religion.

From a young age I studied religions, every one that I could read about. All of them professed to know the 'truth.' And most of them demanded that I give them part of my wealth so they could spread the 'truth.'

Invariably their truths were based on HOW you should follow THEIR particular truth.

BUT

Going back as far as I've been able to discover ALL of these religions have a common denominator as far as ethics within their own tribe.

All of these many and varied religions have 'rules.' And if you divorce the rules from the religions you find that they are remarkably alike. So I think, why? Well, the only reason that makes any sort of sense to me is that those particular 'rules' are the only way you can create anything that can be called an "organized" society.

Pick up any core work of any great religion, Islam excepted, it's garbage, and you'll find rules to live be, rules to raise your children by. Take the Bible for example. Divorce every phrase in that book that refers to God and read it as if it were written by Shakespeare. Fiction with a historical perspective. While fiction is, indeed, fiction there can be no doubt that humanity takes a great many lessons form fiction. There were as many observational truths in "Forrest Gump" as there were flaws. Fiction is nothing more than a tool to focus the mind on the important lessons the life has to put on your plate.

You can not claim on the one hand that others are to blame for your lot in life and on the other adhere to free will. To do so is to condemn yourself to perpetual slavery. You have admitted to yourself, and society, that you have no control over your own life.

You can not claim on one hand that you are an evolutionary products of apes and yet on the other that you are immune from the evolutionary imperatives that being the monkey your are brings with it.

Society violates the rules of order at it's own peril

*hic*

*thud*

Edited for context.
 
You can not claim on one hand that you are an evolutionary products of apes and yet on the other that you are immune from the evolutionary imperatives that being the monkey your are brings with it.

This position is inconsistent. Does anyone ever take it? :confused:
 
Science and Evolution are racist.

All of us being created equally is not racist.
 
"Self," I said to myself upon spying this thread. "Do not open that thread."

So I didn't because I knew it was a train wreck in the making. But the thread stayed at the top so there had to be something going on in there. I wished I knew what it was but I wasn't going to open it. I just wasn't.

And then I ran out of other unread threads to open. So I logged off and did some other things, like work and ebay and some more work and looking at houses and some more work, and then came back. Oh noes, still no unread threads on the GB except this one.

So, I closed one eye and clicked.

Yep, a train wreck.

At least I still have 1 good eye.
 
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