Ever feel sorry for the straight guys ?

[Samuelx]

Man, I'm only 21 but in my lifetime, I've had a lot of fun. I think that a bisexual man who accepts himself just the way he is, stays out of trouble and tries to lead a clean lifestyle can have a lot more fun than the average heterosexual. Seriously, don't you ever feel sorry for the straight people ?


The dynamics between men and women are so confusing sometimes. Often, she controls him. He has no mind of his own. She controls sex and uses it as a weapon. She wages psychological warfare against him and he loses...almost every time.

Personally, the last time I dated a girl, we had an open relationship. When she'd act up, I'd just chill with my boys. I like sex with girls but sex with guys is a lot more...primal. If you know what I mean.

In a relationship between two guys, we're a lot more open, sexual and less into the petty, vengeful, mind game stuff. Sex is an expression of love, and also a powerful need, not a TOOL for manipulation.


Bi guys like myself can and often do get the best of both worlds. Must be why the straights and sometimes, the gays hate us.

Don't you agree ?

 

[hugo_sam]

Hey Samuel
I don't often wander far from the Vibe, but I thought that there appears to be a slight misconception implied in your post/thread.

The basic concept is correct, straight's only have one-half of the selection for companionship as a Bi. No question or doubt there.

And from the guys viewpoint underatanding and relating to women is generaly a difficult proposition.

My objection is the heavily implied concept that a straight has a choice in their preferances. I do not subscribe to the theory that a person choses their orientation. It is a part of them. They may chose to act on their orientation or not, but it is not a choice.

That said a 'straight' has no more choice in their orientation than does a 'gay.
If you orient to both, that is the best of both worlds.

Personaly, I simply feel no curiousity nor attraction to my own sex. Others do which bothers me not in the slightest. I have learned over many years to never say never, but to date, in a lot of years, it has not happened.

The person and how you relate to them is far more importatnt than whatever label might be applied.

To quote one of my friends from the Vibe "I love wimmen!"

JMHO

Hugo

 

[Wolfman1982]

Hmmm if I get into a relationship with a woman (well women I am looking for a woman at the moment ). I still can jack off , if she tries to use the sex against me. And I will really hope that she is monogamous, since as the times are at the moment, cheating can only give you a "real bad one" from the unknown partner.

But screw it at the moment, I will problably find a lovely partner

 

[LoboBoy]

Lets not for a second assume that withholding sex as a means of standing your ground, getting what you want or expressing displeasure is something that only women do. Please.


When one of the pair of a gay male couple even, has a far higher sex drive than the other, it doesn't take much mental effort to realise holding back on sex is the best power tool. (No pun)

Hell...I feel it like nothing else. All he has to do is say "no" one night and I feel my throats been cut lol


....if only it were "one" night

 

[Samuelx]

I see your point. I have never withheld sex from a guy and no man has ever withheld sex from me. My current man and I sometimes argue.
We have conflicting schedules sometimes. Still, at the end of the day, we fck. Often.

 

[Guest]

I see your point. I have never withheld sex from a guy and no man has ever withheld sex from me. My current man and I sometimes argue.
We have conflicting schedules sometimes. Still, at the end of the day, we fck. Often.

And do keep in mind that, in the same vein that sex can be withheld as a means of control, sex can be forced on a partner as a means of control. This happens in both gay and straight couples and don't fool yourself into thinking it doesn't. There are far too many people who have sex they don't want or don't like in order to hold on to the relationship, to avoid being left alone, in difficult financial straits, or -- in the worst case -- being beaten up and forced into it anyway.

In the end, there are no absolutes. Nothing is ever all one color, all one way, for all people all the time. It's too easy to think something will always be one way, or that one's thoughts and feelings will never change.

 

[mansome]

I don't feel sorry for straight guys one bit........... I know how it feels to totally appreciate a woman .... and I can't fault any man for being attracted to one.... That's a wonderful quality for a man to have...

cause I know I have it too.....

 

[PredatorSmile]

You're right about nothing being all one way and there being no absolutes. who among you think of abuse when you have a same-sex couple in mind ?
A gay guy I know showed up at group meetings with a black eye. he also had bruises all over. he lied and said he was taking a kick boxing class. it turns out that his boyfriend, a guy half his size, was actually beating on him all the damn time. they split up, though. these things can happen to anyone.

 

[madmanmike]

why would i feel sorry for a straight person? i feel more sorry for a gay person. when was the last time someone straight had their funeral protested because of their orientation like matt shepard did?

The dynamics between men and women are so confusing sometimes. Often, she controls him. He has no mind of his own. She controls sex and uses it as a weapon. She wages psychological warfare against him and he loses...almost every time.

maybe this happened with your relationships. but if you get with a woman who is evil and manipulates men you will be manipulated. and as far as her controlling sex goes this might work until you are 25 then it shouldnt be an issue anymore. its sad if you let having an orgasm control your life decisions. and why would you be with any woman who wages "phycological warfare"? doesnt sound like a healthy relationship.



trust me men are just as capeable as woman are of these things.

 

[Programmer Cat]

Seriously, don't you ever feel sorry for the straight people?

Why should I? Feeling sorry for people doesn't help them.

The dynamics between men and women are so confusing sometimes. Often, she controls him. He has no mind of his own. She controls sex and uses it as a weapon. She wages psychological warfare against him and he loses...almost every time.

Speaking as somebody who has been abused by both men and women: a man who lets people abuse him instead of standing up for himself deserves his misery.

 

[Samuelx]

Why should I? Feeling sorry for people doesn't help them.



Speaking as somebody who has been abused by both men and women: a man who lets people abuse him instead of standing up for himself deserves his misery.

Nobody deserves to be abused. I don't care if it's a woman abusing a man, or a man abusing a woman, or a man abusing a man, or a woman abusing a woman. We're all human beings. Domestic abuse is a nightmare.
Anybody can be a victim. Men can be victims. Women can be victims too.
Straight people and gay people and everyone else. We're all human. We need helping sometimes. Help to get away from the abusive ones. No one deserves it. We're all human.

 

[Programmer Cat]

Help to get away from the abusive ones. No one deserves it. We're all human.

Nobody helped me, so I can't muster much sympathy for other men who do not help themselves.

 

[artisticbiguy]

I feel you have a misconception, like the big bear said, about what a "straight" relationship is about... or what women are about for that matter.

My wife has NEVER held out on sex with me for something stupid or petty. I, in fact, am the one who holds out far more often.

As we are members of a gay-chorus, my wife and I get to see gay men, gay women, bi's, and straights. We get to see how they love and how they live. And hon, there IS NO DIFFERENCE. The only difference are the genders, beyond that, they all have the same issues, same fights, etc. I've known gay men who have arguments about having children; lesbians who are sluts; bisexual people who are monogamous, etc.

No, I don't feel sorry for a straight person or a gay person... I feel sorry for the narrow minded person, gay, bi or straight, who can not accept the uniqueness of each person and just let them be what they are.

 

[beetlebum]

us bi guys definitely have a broader spectrum of fun, not saying we're having -more- fun, but it is a kind of fun that can go to different extents.

i was exclusively homosexual until i turned 21 and i met a girl who'd change my life, to make a long story short, i married this girl and thus i became part of the bi crowd... i love it, and my wife actually thinks it's a turn on that i had a past with guys, she asks me about my experiences and at times, she's masturbated in front of me as i tell her about it, it adds a kind of spice to your life that you just couldn't get any other way i think

 

[artisticbiguy]

us bi guys definitely have a broader spectrum of fun, not saying we're having -more- fun, but it is a kind of fun that can go to different extents.

i was exclusively homosexual until i turned 21 and i met a girl who'd change my life, to make a long story short, i married this girl and thus i became part of the bi crowd... i love it, and my wife actually thinks it's a turn on that i had a past with guys, she asks me about my experiences and at times, she's masturbated in front of me as i tell her about it, it adds a kind of spice to your life that you just couldn't get any other way i think

though I was not "exclusively homosexual" prior to meeting my wife, she was the first person of all the people I dated (male and female) who just seemed "right" for me. I had never really forseen life as a married man. The best I'd hoped for was several long term relationships with men, and some women in the between times. I was dating a guy when we met, and put simply, I went into the show with him and left with her.

Many of my gay friends ask "once you've had cock, how can you go back to pussy?" My response is "My wife has a cock for each of my moods, I don't have to stroke it's ego, listen to it tell me how good it is in bed, and it lasts until I'm done... and I don't have to listen to it snore." Toys are a wonderful thing... no, no dildo has ever been "the same" as being fucked by a man, but it's still good.

With luck, and the right person, my wife and I might actually pull a 2nd guy into our bed for some "all bed wrestling, no holds barred, everyone gets fucked" action. We aren't hunting for it, but as we weren't "looking" for eachother when we met, we've learned it is best to keep our eyes, and our minds, open.

 

[PredatorSmile]

though I was not "exclusively homosexual" prior to meeting my wife, she was the first person of all the people I dated (male and female) who just seemed "right" for me. I had never really forseen life as a married man. The best I'd hoped for was several long term relationships with men, and some women in the between times. I was dating a guy when we met, and put simply, I went into the show with him and left with her.

Many of my gay friends ask "once you've had cock, how can you go back to pussy?" My response is "My wife has a cock for each of my moods, I don't have to stroke it's ego, listen to it tell me how good it is in bed, and it lasts until I'm done... and I don't have to listen to it snore." Toys are a wonderful thing... no, no dildo has ever been "the same" as being fucked by a man, but it's still good.

With luck, and the right person, my wife and I might actually pull a 2nd guy into our bed for some "all bed wrestling, no holds barred, everyone gets fucked" action. We aren't hunting for it, but as we weren't "looking" for eachother when we met, we've learned it is best to keep our eyes, and our minds, open.

I can totally relate to that. I've dated both women and men and yet my current guy is the only person who ever felt right for me. We sometimes have arguments but usually we're okay. Recently, we've decided to take some time off to clear our heads. That was two days ago. He showed up at my place last night because he didn't want to be without me. I was the one who decided for the time off but I was unhappy about it.
We spent the night talking and I think we can work things out. I thought he might go around fucking random girls and guys on campus but he'd rather be with me. He puts up with me and we all know that I put up with him. We're both imperfect and I accept that. I dont think anyone has it easy when it comes to relationships. Men or women, straight people or gay people. These things ( relations) take time and they hurt us sometimes but i feel that in the end, it's worth it. Don't you ?

 

[Wolfman1982]

"all bed wrestling, no holds barred, everyone gets fucked" action.

Og my goodness LOL

That must be the UFC of sex and oh my I like this tread alot, already

Really that sentence made me laugh

 

[artisticbiguy]

These things ( relations) take time and they hurt us sometimes but i feel that in the end, it's worth it. Don't you ?

Absolutely.

 

[Angel]

Why would you feel sorry for someone because of their sexuality. Seems a bit ass-backwards and ridiculously prejudicial to me.

 

[artisticbiguy]

Og my goodness LOL

That must be the UFC of sex and oh my I like this tread alot, already

Really that sentence made me laugh

don't describe our sexlife as UFC to my wife... she so hates the UFC, WWF, etc.

 

[Wolfman1982]

don't describe our sexlife as UFC to my wife... she so hates the UFC, WWF, etc.

That thing , I promiss you , but I just like Martial arts, and I don´t see WWF ( or any other show wrestling) or for that matter boxing(and kickboxing/K1 for that matter) as Martial arts but I do see almost anything else as MA , and that I mean Muai Thai too, and well. At least I hope you understood the joke in my comment. Since what is wrong with a little bit of erotic BJJ in the morning ?

 

[artisticbiguy]

At least I hope you understood the joke in my comment. Since what is wrong with a little bit of erotic BJJ in the morning ?

OH, I certainly did maybe I did not convey my teasing tone back in my reply.

I, however, do not understand BJJ... color me clueless

 

[sigsauerprinces]

i'm a girl and i've never withheld sex as a weapon. not only because i think it's wrong, but because i love sex and wouldn't want to deny myself

 

[sigsauerprinces]

Nobody deserves to be abused. I don't care if it's a woman abusing a man, or a man abusing a woman, or a man abusing a man, or a woman abusing a woman. We're all human beings. Domestic abuse is a nightmare.
Anybody can be a victim. Men can be victims. Women can be victims too.
Straight people and gay people and everyone else. We're all human. We need helping sometimes. Help to get away from the abusive ones. No one deserves it. We're all human.

deserves to be quoted.

 

[Wolfman1982]

OH, I certainly did maybe I did not convey my teasing tone back in my reply.

I, however, do not understand BJJ... color me clueless

BJJ = Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu/Brazilian Ju-Jutsu or Brazilian Ju-Jitsu. alot of rolling going on and the erotic part is that some of the moves can be quite sexy. But well that was an explanation