Erotic, Artistic Independent Film

[Helmhood]

Hi!

I just wanted to mention an independent film I produced, entitled "Babysitting Without a Net". It is a beautiful and literary picture, but also fun and sexy.

For more information, to view the trailer, check out the film web site at:

http://www.babysittingwonet.com/home.html

I would be happy to discuss the film, either here or by direct e-mail through the contact page.

Hope you enjoy!

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1017/collage1vc.jpg

 

[Halo_n_horns]

Hhhmmmmm ...

I'm not sure if this is spam or a legitimate addition to the Artists Corner. I'm leaning towards spam.

Fellow Litizens, what say you on this matter?

 

[arienette]

Spam, however it did make me curious...

 

[Helmhood]

Please discuss...

The Visual Artists Corner
A place to show, view and discuss all forms of your original visual art.

Hello friends,

Above is the heading on this particular forum. "Babysitting Without a Net" is an indie film that I wrote and produced. It is my expression of original art, and some might say that the cinema is the highest form of the visual arts.

The screenplay was inspired by a delightful collection of erotic stories, so it is very much on topic for this haven of erotic literature.

I thought spam were those annoying e-mails you get every day for medication or just about any other scam.

This is a legitimate piece of artistic work, and I thought some of the readers might enjoy.

Thank you for your interest!

Joe

 

[Halo_n_horns]

The Visual Artists Corner
A place to show, view and discuss all forms of your original visual art.

Hello friends,

Above is the heading on this particular forum. "Babysitting Without a Net" is an indie film that I wrote and produced. It is my expression of original art, and some might say that the cinema is the highest form of the visual arts.

The screenplay was inspired by a delightful collection of erotic stories, so it is very much on topic for this haven of erotic literature.

I thought spam were those annoying e-mails you get every day for medication or just about any other scam.

This is a legitimate piece of artistic work, and I thought some of the readers might enjoy.

Thank you for your interest!

Joe

I get that. That's why I was giving it the benefit of the doubt. The only thing is that we show finished works here ... for free. Your post looks like spam because your advertising something that we'll have to pay for to see the final product.

Don't get me wrong, I want to see independant films make it. But in this forum this seems to be a kind of on-the-fence type thing to show off since all we get to enjoy is the advertising.

See where we're comin' from?

 

[Helmhood]

Thank you

I do appreciate the feedback.

I will defer to your good judgement. Personally, I think it's a nifty little film. It is certainly not mainstream, so I could use any support and exposure I can get!

here, I'll leave everyone with a free screen cap, from one of the more hotter scenes of the film.

Enjoy!

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8526/enf18jb.jpg

 

[Halo_n_horns]

I do appreciate the feedback.

I will defer to your good judgement. Personally, I think it's a nifty little film. It is certainly not mainstream, so I could use any support and exposure I can get!

here, I'll leave everyone with a free screen cap, from one of the more hotter scenes of the film.

Enjoy!

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8526/enf18jb.jpg

Kudos to the actress. She's very attractive. keep'em coming and I'm sure everyone will overlook the the free advertising.

 

[Ravin the Poet]

Just a note on your trailor. Get rid of the numbers that are going on the top and bottom. Will make it look more professional.

 

[Helmhood]

one more...

Halo n Horns,

Yes, Monica is very beautiful, and quite talented! I hope you also like the enclosed screen shot.

Ravin... that one trailer was an early version I got from my editor, which of course still has the timecode running along the top and bottom. You will also notice the title card "The Little Death" which was an alternate director's cut name my director was toying with.

Later I uploaded the conformed trailer, with the appropriate title card, and it can be seen on the Quicktime media player. However, this version did not look so good (too dark) on the Windows Media Player, so I allowed the old one to stand. It is of course, the exact same film content.

Thanks for checking it out!


Joe

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7509/duster7iv.jpg

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

I've seen mention of this film before on a Yahoo group "Biker's Place" The guys who did it really are getting it out for teh art sake as much as possible and if I had the spare money, I'd buy a copy or 3.

Great work, I am most impressed and give Monica a squeeze for me.

I vote not Spam. Just letting us know its out there.

And if anyone here ever gets a gallery opening or show in atlanta, I hope you post news so I can go support it.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

I'm pretty curious about the screen shots that shows the three women. Usually movies, mainstream or independent, that show lesbian scenes really cop out on the content that they could be showing. Wonder how this one handles it ... hhhmmmm ... ???

 

[Helmhood]

girl play

Well, I have to be honest with you... while there are some sapphic overtones (or undertones) in the film, there is no direct lesbian interaction.

The premise, which reflects the stories it was inspired by, is that the teacher/babysitter is reguarly stripped by the two girls she is supposed to be setting an example for. The general feeling is that the title character is sexually repressed, and the two girls through their antics awaken her inner sensuality. But there is certainly room for interpretation.

Here's a shot of the girls taking down her dress (after they have removed her panties) in preparation for a game of "Doctors and Patients".

Sounds fun!

And Salvor, thank you for the moral support... it is priceless and much appreciated!

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1954/doctor4yh.jpg

 

[Jagged]

Just watched the trailer...very interesting. Glad the internet allows independants to share their ideas. So many creative films are made in this country that never see the light of day.

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

And Salvor, thank you for the moral support... it is priceless and much appreciated!

Quite welcome man. I am a huge fan of Biker's drawings, and the Jenny style cartoons, so when your movie was released I've been saving my nickles and dimes and wondering how to get a copy without the missus seeing it

 

[Helmhood]

some more caps

Yes, Biker is a visual inspiration of mine. I really enjoy the way he captures the "damsel in distress" in his comics and single drawings.

Here's a screen cap of our damsel, the babysitter, down to a pair of vintage 1850's Bloomers. I just wanted to add that the other two girls in this film are wonderful actresses as well!

Enjoy!

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2141/bloomers0bf.jpg

 

[Salvor-Hardon]

Yes, Biker is a visual inspiration of mine. I really enjoy the way he captures the "damsel in distress" in his comics and single drawings.

Here's a screen cap of our damsel, the babysitter, down to a pair of vintage 1850's Bloomers. I just wanted to add that the other two girls in this film are wonderful actresses as well!

Enjoy!

Are they listed in imdb.com?

Would love to see head shots of your cast

P.S. Ok so I shoudl click on your link more

and I want to head up the Yara McClay fan club!

 

[ThornDaddy]

Bravo, Sir!

It's fucking stunning, and not just because it's got nakid laydees in it.
The trailer looks better than 99% of the no- and low-budget film trailers I've seen. (And I've seen literally thousands.)

I'm sending your link out to my e-mail list.

TIP: A way to get around the spam accusations in the future would be to mention only the trailer in the post. The trailer is free, and is a valid work of visual art. Like, "Here's a free download, some cool visual art I did. It's a trailer for a movie."

You could also just put the link in your sig line. I shill books in a link on my sig line and no one mentions it. Your sig line is yours to do with as you please.

I understand the desire of folks to keep spam off this board, it's well grounded. But a trailer is a freestanding work of art, ya know?

I think people also have the misconception that movie=money. And that movies are automatically commercial, whereas other mediums are "pure." A good example: I've seen painters on here who've linked their home page that has their art, pages where they are selling paintings. No one complains about that.

For what it's worth, Most independent movies lose money. And it's usually a lot of money to the people who make them.

 

[ThornDaddy]

Another suggestion

Don't make all your posts about your movie. It comes off odd. All seven of your posts are about your movie.

There was a lady on bondage.com who had a self-published erotica book, and every one of her posts was about her damn book. A lot of people started mocking her to her face on there.

However, her book was horrible and your film looks great.

Stay on a while, lurk, post about other stuff, and ease on in. It's a good place for artists. Brag about OTHER PEOPLE'S cool art a lot, stuff you had nothing to do with. That's a great thing to do and share on here. It's kind of the main reason this place exists.

I've posted 80 posts on here, about all kinds of stuff. Four of them mention art I did. The rest are mostly about other art I love that I had nothing to do with. (Well, and then there's some posts about sex.)

Anyway, again, job well done, sir.

 

[Halo_n_horns]

I understand the desire of folks to keep spam off this board, it's well grounded. But a trailer is a freestanding work of art, ya know?

Actually I do know. A trailer is far and wide from being a finished piece of work. I've never seen an Academy Award show offer a Best Actor award for a performance in a trailer, have you? Trailers are advertisements. They're shown before movies in theaters to help keep you coming back. Often the trailers aren't even completely truthful about the movie they're advertising. they're just hype.

No one out there pays between $20-$50 to go eat popcorn and drink a soda while watching the trailers and then leaves before the movie, the actual finished product, is shown. Unless of course they're stupid.

I agree with the rest of what you said, but there's no artistic genius found in a movie trailer, and it certainly shouldn't be considered as anything more than an advertisement.

I think that in a number of ways Helmhood has received a tremendous amount of slack for this thread. Knowing how mean a number of people here at Literotica can be, and usually are, one of the simple truths about this thread is that he's been generous enough to give us stills from the finished product because we simply cannot view the movie through this forum.

In a big way I'm happy Helmhood posted this thread because its brought us at least a glimpse into a medium that hasn't really been explored here. I personally would love for this to become the opening step for an evolution where writers, other artists and any other film makers or wannabe film makers from here at lit could begin collaborations and productions that could somehow be viewed by everyone else. After all, we have writers, we have artists of static mediums, we have photographers, we even have folks who have written and produced audio tracks for everyone elses listening pleasure, but we have yet to get actual motion for the perusal of those who visit our humble dwelling.

*side note* I do believe that BlackSnake has produced some motion-based visuals, but Literotica may be too far off, if ever, to host actual shorts or full length features.

Perhaps I'm just dreaming bigger than what Lit will ever be capable of handling. Perhaps I'm seeing far more potential than what anyone else would care to put real effort into.

But under no circumstance will I ever consider a trailer to be anything more than an advertisement.

 

[ThornDaddy]

*side note* I do believe that BlackSnake has produced some motion-based visuals, but Literotica may be too far off, if ever, to host actual shorts or full length features.

I have seen someone post their own movie, a feature shot on 35mm, for free download on the Internet. I am racking my brain to try to remember the name (and will post the link when I do), because it was great, and looked REALLY good. (The encode was done with machine encoding, not software, and the 90-minute film weighed in at about 400 megs, and looked good, even full screen.)

Here's an anti-spam spam for you: I talk about a lot of methods for this type of encoding (and a lot more about making and promoting film, and any art) in a book I wrote on filmmaking called "$30 Film School."

Posting the amazon link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1598631896/104-6648100-9503946

would be spam on here if I didn't also tell you that some fuck somewhere has scanned the whole thing and put it up for free download on a couple Russian warez sites. I'll leave it up to you to find them, but it's not hard.

Anti-commercially yours,
--ThornDaddy

 

[ThornDaddy]

But under no circumstance will I ever consider a trailer to be anything more than an advertisement.

True. But some commercial advertisements on TV are some of the most artistically made things around these days. The best art school weenies get lured away from "pure" art to make mind-bending car commercials now.

I hate advertising, but some of it is oddly compelling.

Interesting historical note: Cutting trailers was the first use of computers for editing. When they started doing it, processing power was so low and storage space so limited, that it was impossible to cut a feature on a computer. They could only do trailers.

Now most laptops can cut a feature. (Though you'll still need some external FireWire drives, unless you import at low-rez and pay a lot to online the project later, which actually makes for a much better looking movie, especially if you pay for professional color correction. Doing both of these for a feature can range from $5000 to $100,000.)

 

[Halo_n_horns]

True. But some commercial advertisements on TV are some of the most artistically made things around these days. The best art school weenies get lured away from "pure" art to make mind-bending car commercials now.

I hate advertising, but some of it is oddly compelling.

Interesting historical note: Cutting trailers was the first use of computers for editing. When they started doing it, processing power was so low and storage space so limited, that it was impossible to cut a feature on a computer. They could only do trailers.

Now most laptops can cut a feature. (Though you'll still need some external FireWire drives, unless you import at low-rez and pay a lot to online the project later, which actually makes for a much better looking movie, especially if you pay for professional color correction. Doing both of these for a feature can range from $5000 to $100,000.)

Sounds like you and BlackSnake should be chatting. He's been getting way into learning some new stuff lately.

 

[ThornDaddy]

Sounds like you and BlackSnake should be chatting. He's been getting way into learning some new stuff lately.

Cool. I just sent him a note. Thank you.

I dig "barnburner mag", btw.

 

[Raine D8]

I'd vote not spam, and that's from just looking at the link. There's a trailer there, a synopsis, although my current browser does not allow me the priviledge of viewing - I will switch to IE soon.

I think it's fabulous that film can be included as part of this forum, afterall, film is art. I understand the need for an outside host and for snippets. I studied for a number of years and am very interested in knowing more about your experiences and how you got the idea and talent together, first off. I am sure I will say and ask more when I see the trailer, which, as said, I am off to do right now.

 

[Raine D8]

The sound sync is off, but otherwise, cool trailer. There is definately an artistic feel, some really smooth and enviable camerawork and terrific framing. I loved the Line "How can you be in control? You've lost all your clothes" it totally piques interest, made me laugh. I would like to know why you use sepia in the trailer? Is the film like this as well?