Epiphany! I No Longer Care!

[LAHomedog]

Thanks to the last few threads, especially Simon's, the lightening bolt finally hit me:

I no longer care!

I realized that following a lifetime habit of writing to form and what the platform and its audience demanded, I have been adjusting my style professionally to match and meet what I believed to be the expectations of the Lit reader.

Easy to understand. My life, my career.

I think going forward. No more. We don't all follow each other. I have been trying to slowly add you all and will get there eventually, and I think we all should.

Having said that, I'm going to try freedom. I think it is going to take a few tries. A strange thing. Candidly, every single story I have posted on here has been an exercise in writing for the target audience.

Going forward, starting with my "Summer Love" story, I am just going to write. I will never be able to fully curb my "commercial instincts", but I am now going to make a commitment to write what I want, when I want to write it

I don't know if I can achieve it, but my commitment is "pure." I don't know if a writer can say "pure" on a smut site, but pure. Real, unfiltered, writing.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I realized that following a lifetime habit of writing to form and what the platform and its audience demanded, I have been adjusting my style professionally to match and meet what I believed to be the expectations of the Lit reader.

That's a daft proposition for a start - there is no "standard Lit reader". What's stroke for one is arousal killer for the next person, what's hot for me is cold for you.

Having said that, I'm going to try freedom. I think it is going to take a few tries. A strange thing. Candidly, every single story I have posted on here has been an exercise in writing for the target audience.

Yes, you should write for YOUR target audience, but there is no THE target audience.

Going forward, starting with my "Summer Love" story, I am just going to write. I will never be able to fully curb my "commercial instincts", but I am now going to make a commitment to write what I want, when I want to write it

I don't know if I can achieve it, but my commitment is "pure." I don't know if a writer can say "pure" on a smut site, but pure. Real, unfiltered, writing.

Write what YOU want to write. Don't pander to or target "readers". If they like your stuff, they'll follow you. Writing to a hypothetical reader base is impossible.

 

[TxRad]

LHD, you want true freedom to write. Pull up your favorite picture, porn or otherwise. Set it as a background or somewhere it is always popping up in front of you. Now write the story you see. No notes, no outlines, No research, well, maybe a little for the setting.

Wing it. Keep notes as needed for reference only so you don't have to dig back to find an age, an eye color, stuff like that.

 

[oggbashan]

Good for you!

I still write some stories for those who want a particular fetish, but most of my stories of the last five years or so have been ones I want to write, not for any particular set or sub-set of readers.

"Take it or leave it" has been my motto and it seems to work fairly well even if Red Hs can be sparse.

Do your own thing and sod the ratings.

 

[SimonDoom]

I no longer care!

I realized that following a lifetime habit of writing to form and what the platform and its audience demanded, I have been adjusting my style professionally to match and meet what I believed to be the expectations of the Lit reader.

.

I write for myself as an audience. I have impeccable taste, and I never 1-bomb myself.

 

[WatchingCloud]

I write for myself as an audience. I have impeccable taste, and I never 1-bomb myself.

This. ^^

I always write what I enjoy reading. That others find pleasure in it is just a bonus.

Granted, this is also why I've never tried to make a living off my writing...

 

[MillieDynamite]

I write for myself when I write for free. When I'm paid I write from the outline and still write the story to satisfy my own standards.

I modify my writing to fit in the guidelines of the site and that is about all the fitting I do for a story. Some will like my writing many will not. I can life with that.

 

[lovecraft68]

This thread makes me appreciate the fact that I never cared from day one.
Not going to pretend I didn't want people to like my work, but my attitude was they were going to get to like or not like what I wanted to write the way I wrote it, I never cared about conforming to trying to find what works.

I managed to do okay with that.

OP...welcome to the freedom of apathy.

 

[MillieDynamite]

This thread makes me appreciate the fact that I never cared from day one.
Not going to pretend I didn't want people to like my work, but my attitude was they were going to get to like or not like what I wanted to write the way I wrote it, I never cared about conforming to trying to find what works.

I managed to do okay with that.

OP...welcome to the freedom of apathy.

There will always be people who love or hate your work. Even horror greats the likes of Dean Koontz, Anne Rice, Mylo Carbia, Peter Straub, Jonathan Maberry, Clive Barker and Ramsey Campbell have supporters and detractors. Having people love your work or hate it isn't a measure of how good it is. Hopefully, you'll have more lovers than haters.

I only have one lover these days, but we're not talking about the bedroom.

 

[lovecraft68]

There will always be people who love or hate your work. Even horror greats the likes of Dean Koontz, Anne Rice, Mylo Carbia, Peter Straub, Jonathan Maberry, Clive Barker and Ramsey Campbell have supporters and detractors. Having people love your work or hate it isn't a measure of how good it is. Hopefully, you'll have more lovers than haters.

I only have one lover these days, but we're not talking about the bedroom.

Bit off topic, but I'm always surprised when someone mentions a few prominent horror authors and leaves out Robert McCammon. Its criminal how underrated he is. I've always liked him better than King.

If you've never read them check out They Thirst, Swan Song, Wolf's Hour phenomenal.

 

[LAHomedog]

This thread makes me appreciate the fact that I never cared from day one.

OP...welcome to the freedom of apathy.

Well, LC if apathy means I will write a story as well as you do, I'm all in!

 

[MillieDynamite]

Bit off topic, but I'm always surprised when someone mentions a few prominent horror authors and leaves out Robert McCammon. Its criminal how underrated he is. I've always liked him better than King.

If you've never read them check out They Thirst, Swan Song, Wolf's Hour phenomenal.

Thanks, I'll look him up! Did I every mention I love Horror. I'm not as enamored with King as others, he has this habit of over writing some scenes and often shows his pansterness by having a sub-plot that disappears in the mix. Though, one of my favorites is Misery. However, it's a shorter novel than many of his.

 

[lovecraft68]

Thanks, I'll look him up! Did I every mention I love Horror. I'm not as enamored with King as others, he has this habit of over writing some scenes and often shows his pansterness by having a sub-plot that disappears in the mix. Though, one of my favorites is Misery. However, it's a shorter novel than many of his.

I am all about horror. I agree on King. Hard to argue that some of his first books like Salem's Lot and Carrie, The Stand(unedited the extended version proved why it was edited) and Pet Sematary is legendary to me.

But after Dark Half(great book about a writer LOL) he really went south for me.

I recently reread Jack ketchum's Offseason, one of the most brutal books ever written...and that was the original the rerelease with 50 or so more pages is an endurance test.

Another writer I enjoy is technically not Horror. Michael Slade writes crime thrillers but with killers so sick and gruesome they cross over into horror (like the movie Se7en does) Slade is actually three people, I think a father, daughter and one other...they write seamlessly

 

[lovecraft68]

Well, LC if apathy means I will write a story as well as you do, I'm all in!

That's very nice of you

Even though I don't care what anyone thinks

 

[MillieDynamite]

I am all about horror. I agree on King. Hard to argue that some of his first books like Salem's Lot and Carrie, The Stand(unedited the extended version proved why it was edited) and Pet Sematary is legendary to me.

But after Dark Half(great book about a writer LOL) he really went south for me.

I recently reread Jack ketchum's Offseason, one of the most brutal books ever written...and that was the original the rerelease with 50 or so more pages is an endurance test.

Another writer I enjoy is technically not Horror. Michael Slade writes crime thrillers but with killers so sick and gruesome they cross over into horror (like the movie Se7en does) Slade is actually three people, I think a father, daughter and one other...they write seamlessly

My father has contributed to some of my stories. None here or on the net any longer, but he is assisting me on one for here, as it is loosely based on something from his past. I doubt you'll know which paragraphs he writes and which I do when it is published. Not that an interracial love story (that has a totally different ending than his real life counter part did) is something you'd have interest in.

I'm taking notes here for stories to check out.

 

[SimonDoom]

Thanks, I'll look him up! Did I every mention I love Horror. I'm not as enamored with King as others, he has this habit of over writing some scenes and often shows his pansterness by having a sub-plot that disappears in the mix. Though, one of my favorites is Misery. However, it's a shorter novel than many of his.

Try Peter Straub, Ghost Story. That's a great horror novel. Very well written. Scary. Weird. Different. If you like horror novels you should read that one.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Try Peter Straub, Ghost Story. That's a great horror novel. Very well written. Scary. Weird. Different. If you like horror novels you should read that one.

I have read that one, loved it. I also found a book when I first moved in with my family in my brothers room, who no longer lived at home, which scared the bejesus out of me, Whispers In The Dark by Jonathan Aycliffe.

My room had been my sisters room before she left home, her books were all Star Trek, sci-fy, romance, and mysteries. There was a large collection of books by a writer from the 80's who I'd never heard of. When she came home for a visit, I asked why she had these books. She'd our father wrote several of them as a ghostwrite which she shouldn't know and I shouldn't know. She explained what a ghostwriter was, and I asked how do you know pops wrote them, then?

"I read them before he sent them to the author of record," she said.

"He let you read them?"

"Nooo," she said, "and he'd be pissed if he knew I had. He raised an eyebrow when I started buy them. He one time asked why I had the books and said I like the covers."

They were sappy love stories and nothing like my fathers writings.

 

[jaF0]

I never cared.

I hate horror and King in particular. Some is OK if it has a comedic twist. Or is overly campy like the original Dark Shadows.

I thought I liked Poe for a while. Then I didn't


And I don't care if you don't agree.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I never cared.

I hate horror and King in particular. Some is OK if it has a comedic twist. Or is overly campy like the original Dark Shadows.

I thought I liked Poe for a while. Then I didn't


And I don't care if you don't agree.

Personal taste, are by definition, personal. Therefore, anyone else's agreement isn't required.

And other than King, I don't agree! Also, I don't care that you don't care. I hope that doesn't offend!

If it does, um, I don't care.

 

[lovecraft68]

Try Peter Straub, Ghost Story. That's a great horror novel. Very well written. Scary. Weird. Different. If you like horror novels you should read that one.

Great story movie mussed the mark which is often the case

The scariest part of Ghost Story when I first read it was Sears Fenny Bates flashback, well done

Oh, and now that you write erotica...think back on the story

Stella Hawthorne was a hotwife and Ricky a cuck...although maybe more of a wittol as he was accepting of it

 

[MillieDynamite]

Great story movie mussed the mark which is often the case

The scariest part of Ghost Story when I first read it was Sears Fenny Bates flashback, well done

Oh, and now that you write erotica...think back on the story

Stella Hawthorne was a hotwife and Ricky a cuck...although maybe more of a wittol as he was accepting of it

in the past few years (well 15 or 20 years) the cuckold has been subdivided to those that hate what she does, those that don't know, and those who not only accept her wanderings, but participate in their own humiliations. I like the word Wittol though, I'll have to incorporate it at some point. I'm a wittle thief.

 

[lovecraft68]

in the past few years (well 15 or 20 years) the cuckold has been subdivided to those that hate what she does, those that don't know, and those who not only accept her wanderings, but participate in their own humiliations. I like the word Wittol though, I'll have to incorporate it at some point. I'm a wittle thief.

I want to say wittol is kind of the original term and usually the guy knew and either enjoyed it or just turned a blind eye to it.

Cuck moved in and seemed to be more in the vein of the husband watching and being okay with it initially, now its devolved into a general insult meaning someone isn't a man, cuck, simp, soyboy etc...

But its not used by those in the hotwife lifestyle in that manner, its used like that by POS insecure men, knuckle draggers, incels and....the guys who claim they hate it but would really enjoy it and they know it.

That whole scene is a sad mess these days, as far as stories and how they're perceived go

 

[MillieDynamite]

I want to say wittol is kind of the original term and usually the guy knew and either enjoyed it or just turned a blind eye to it.

Cuck moved in and seemed to be more in the vein of the husband watching and being okay with it initially, now its devolved into a general insult meaning someone isn't a man, cuck, simp, soyboy etc...

But its not used by those in the hotwife lifestyle in that manner, its used like that by POS insecure men, knuckle draggers, incels and....the guys who claim they hate it but would really enjoy it and they know it.

That whole scene is a sad mess these days, as far as stories and how they're perceived go

I like how quickly the store view goes up in the category. I don't like the incel remarks. I'm thinking I'll avoid it unless I write a revenge story and put there on a cheating wife. then again, I'm probably going to do more cheating men revenge stories than cheating wives. We know women do no wrong

 

[lovecraft68]

I like how quickly the store view goes up in the category. I don't like the incel remarks. I'm thinking I'll avoid it unless I write a revenge story and put there on a cheating wife. then again, I'm probably going to do more cheating men revenge stories than cheating wives. We know women do no wrong

The thing is with that crowd the woman could not be cheating and they'll say she is

I wrote a burn the bastard story a few years ago and went over the top on the wife's revenge...she tied him to a chair while she fucked the landscaper and had a shock collar on him and would zap him anytime he looked away

for the finish I had her jack her lover off in his face.

I received several threats through feedback they were going to find me and rape me and pour acid in my rancid cunt because of course they didn't think a man would write that.

That was back when I liked to tweak them, now they're so far gone I'd feel like I'd be fueling their already insane malice.