Epiphanies

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I had an epiphany today, thanks to something someone told me yesterday (thank you, sweets - you know who you are :heart: )

Bear with me:

Just to give you some background, I was the fourth child of five. My oldest sister moved back in with us when her oldest child was 3 mos. old, so that made six kids in the house, and then my brother's friend got thrown out by his parents, so he moved in with us. Make that 7 kids in the house. I was still third to the youngest, even after all the additions.

I started running track, and qualified for the city team when I was 12. About the same time, my older brother was put into jail for about a year for selling pot, and my father had a crippling, although not lethal, heart attack.

If I had gone missing at some point, I think the only reason it would have been noticed would have been if I'd quit showing up for meals. Granted, it was a chaotic household, to say the least.

I did well at track, although I don't think it was from any innate ability. I would get up two hours early for school, so that I could get three or four miles in then, in addition to practice at school. As a result, I qualified for state finals just about every year, and was invited to compete in the junior olympics twice. Looking back....my mother came to one meet, my father never did.

At 13, in addition to track, I started competing in rodeo. Again, I don't think there was any extraordinary ability involved, simply a horrendous amount of hours on horseback, until my horse and I functioned as one unit....turning barrels so many times, until I could feel the barrel go past my leg, but not actually touch it. I still have scars on the outside of my knees. Again, I did well, qualifying for state finals twice, and finishing third both times. I can't remember my parents ever coming to a show...ever. I would bring the ribbons home, and they would congratulate me, but never came to see me win them. When I left for college, my mother threw them all away, including the High Point trophy they hadn't seen me win.

My epiphany was this: All of that was simply the way for me to scream "look at me!" I know this because once I started college, and moved away from home, my interest in both just fell away. I ran my freshman year in college, but the results were mediocre, at best.

Today I realized that I won't hold the same place in my parents lives that others do (namely, one brother), but you know what? It doesn't matter anymore. How wonderful, to finally get it.

Anyone else every have an "aha!" moment that profoundly changed the way they looked at their lives?
 
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My siblings were all so different, and I was the youngest.

They were all extraordinary in their own ways. And deeply flawed.

There was nothing I could have done to be better or different. They had it all covered, and I was 10 to 7 years behind each one of them.

There wasn't much "look at me" because I didn't really want to play the approval game I saw my siblings play.

So I looked inward and I suppose that's where I stayed.
 
Yes, but it was more to do with realizing that maybe I am not 100% heterosexual after all. As it turns out, I'm more 67% straight, 33% gay. :devil:
 
Mine came when I was 14 and my brother was 12. He got braces on his teeth, which he really didn't need, and I didn't and I needed them!

So I knew right then and there who the favorite was. He has had his nose up my fathers ass ever since.

You see I was a mistake! I was born 8 months after my parents were married. My brother was planned! :rolleyes:
 
zeb1094 said:
Mine came when I was 14 and my brother was 12. He got braces on his teeth, which he really didn't need, and I didn't and I needed them!

So I knew right then and there who the favorite was. He has had his nose up my fathers ass ever since.

You see I was a mistake! I was born 8 months after my parents were married. My brother was planned! :rolleyes:

That sucks. I personally think that the Cosmos "plans" all kids. All humans are supposed to be here, for one reason or another. Even if parents don't know it.

No one is more planned or legitimate than another.
 
Mine came when I was hanging from my own belt.

I want to live, damn it! I don't give a shit that I'm not proper or normal.
 
rgraham666 said:
Mine came when I was hanging from my own belt.

I want to live, damn it! I don't give a shit that I'm not proper or normal.

Well, it's good that you realized that. If I had to be normal to deserve life, I would have been gone long ago.
 
Too many "Aha"" moments to even start recalling. This happens very often to me - especially after serious pondering, and meditation.

One of my latest was over someone that I had an extremely close relationship with who commited suicide. My thinking has always been that I was not enough reason for her to want to stay alive. After a lifetime I realised that its more about her feelings of inferiority and her thinking she would not be good for me (and ofcourse many other reasons)

Life sure let's us make a 360 degree turn at times... and mostly it's good.

Here's too more Revelations, Warrior Woman :rose:
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
That sucks. I personally think that the Cosmos "plans" all kids. All humans are supposed to be here, for one reason or another. Even if parents don't know it.

No one is more planned or legitimate than another.
Well not back in the late fourties, back then it was, "Oops, we gotta get married I'm preggers." So I was a mistake.

Just think, in todays world I may have never been born, what with pro-choice (which I support). So I was lucky just to be here! That's the way I figure it, to hell with my parents and my brother!

He's the one that has also been married twice has 3 kids by his first wife and never helped support them. While I have been married to the same woman for 38 years. Go figure!
 
zeb1094 said:
Well not back in the late fourties, back then it was, "Oops, we gotta get married I'm preggers." So I was a mistake.

Just think, in todays world I may have never been born, what with pro-choice (which I support). So I was lucky just to be here! That's the way I figure it, to hell with my parents and my brother!

He's the one that has also been married twice has 3 kids by his first wife and never helped support them. While I have been married to the same woman for 38 years. Go figure!

My brother was an unplanned "baby of the family". My parents had their son (not counting an older one who didn't make it) and daughter. They were content. But they didn't resent him when he came. They just called him their "surprise baby".

I may have resented him a few times over the years, but he is a great guy, a man serving his country in the Air Force, and a loving father to my niece. So, planned or not, his arrival was a good thing.

Sounds like the world is a better place for your being here too, zeb.
 
I've had several such moments in my life. I call them "life lessons".

One of the biggest ones was like this. "No, you can't leave me...wait, I'll chase after you! Wait, I'll do anything! Wait...I don't want to do this. I don't really want you back." And that ended that seven years.

Next was "Ok, she's gone. She's dead. I don't have to die with her and I don't have to mourn forever to prove I loved her. Time to stop using her death as an excuse for not trying."

Then there was "It's ok if I'm wrong. It's ok if other people are wrong. Damn! Have I spent all this time trying to be right? What a waste!"

An important one was "I wasn't adopted. None of what she said was true. They were my parents."

The latest was "I'm always looking for someone else to tell me I'm ok, I'm talented, I'm smart, I'm worthwhile. I take everything as a negative somehow. I take every moment of silence as indictment. I interpret every change remark as judgement against me. How can I expect anyone else to give me what I won't give myself? Why do I give everyone else the power?" I haven't quite learned this one yet. Still working on it.
 
malachiteink said:
I've had several such moments in my life. I call them "life lessons".

One of the biggest ones was like this. "No, you can't leave me...wait, I'll chase after you! Wait, I'll do anything! Wait...I don't want to do this. I don't really want you back." And that ended that seven years.

Next was "Ok, she's gone. She's dead. I don't have to die with her and I don't have to mourn forever to prove I loved her. Time to stop using her death as an excuse for not trying."

Then there was "It's ok if I'm wrong. It's ok if other people are wrong. Damn! Have I spent all this time trying to be right? What a waste!"

An important one was "I wasn't adopted. None of what she said was true. They were my parents."

The latest was "I'm always looking for someone else to tell me I'm ok, I'm talented, I'm smart, I'm worthwhile. I take everything as a negative somehow. I take every moment of silence as indictment. I interpret every change remark as judgement against me. How can I expect anyone else to give me what I won't give myself? Why do I give everyone else the power?" I haven't quite learned this one yet. Still working on it.

That last one is hard for a lot of people.

And, zeb, my lover is an unplanned baby, I forgot to add. I forgot because it is hard for me to imagine anyone not wanting her. But they didn't. Not her birth mother, anyway. Instead, she was adopted by a cousin and her husband, particularly at the urging of the husband. He was her true father, because he raised her. She never knew her biological father, and doesn't think of him as her dad at all. She thinks of her adoptive mother as her real mother too. Not her biological mother, who once told her that she would not have had her again if given the chance to decide it.

I'm glad that she had her anyway. Because of her fling, I have a wonderful woman that I couldn't ever imagine the world without.
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
My brother was an unplanned "baby of the family". My parents had their son (not counting an older one who didn't make it) and daughter. They were content. But they didn't resent him when he came. They just called him their "surprise baby".

I may have resented him a few times over the years, but he is a great guy, a man serving his country in the Air Force, and a loving father to my niece. So, planned or not, his arrival was a good thing.

Sounds like the world is a better place for your being here too, zeb.
Well thanks Sev...I appreciated that!

My brother was always an asshole, I really hate to say it, but he was. He knew he was the favorite and rubbed my nose in it every chance he got. He never did anything unless he had too! Even now he works for my father. So he still has his nose up his ass.

I am the black sheep of the family, although all my aunts, uncles and cousins tell me I'm the good one!

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Yes, I had an important one last year. I always thought I was screwed up, but it turns out I have social anxiety disorder. Learning that explains my whole life of being terribly upset, uncomfortable and fearful in new situations, to the point where I even avoid them.

We moved a lot when I was a kid and being the "new kid" was horrible for me. It was so easy for my brother and my mom always told me it was a new adventure. She never understood why it was so hard for me.

It's a controllable thing. I don't hide in my house (much) and most people who know me have no idea I'm this way. But I know it's affected my life and my decisions. At least now, I'm conscious of it. I'm "odd" but at least now I know why I'm odd and I also try to use this knowledge to help other people that have some of the same problems I do. It's such a relief to know I'm not the only one with this problem and I'm not fucked up in the head.
 
zeb1094 said:
Well thanks Sev...I appreciated that!

My brother was always an asshole, I really hate to say it, but he was. He knew he was the favorite and rubbed my nose in it every chance he got. He never did anything unless he had too! Even now he works for my father. So he still has his nose up his ass.

I am the black sheep of the family, although all my aunts, uncles and cousins tell me I'm the good one!

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Sometimes, the black sheep are the coolest people. My brother is the black sheep, and I'm not far behind, since we are both "shacking up" and "living in sin" with our girlfriends. :rolleyes:

Only the fact that I'm not divorced puts me slightly ahead of him. Although being involved with a divorced woman isn't helping me any.
 
carsonshepherd said:
Yes, I had an important one last year. I always thought I was screwed up, but it turns out I have social anxiety disorder. Learning that explains my whole life of being terribly upset, uncomfortable and fearful in new situations, to the point where I even avoid them.

We moved a lot when I was a kid and being the "new kid" was horrible for me. It was so easy for my brother and my mom always told me it was a new adventure. She never understood why it was so hard for me.

It's a controllable thing. I don't hide in my house (much) and most people who know me have no idea I'm this way. But I know it's affected my life and my decisions. At least now, I'm conscious of it. I'm "odd" but at least now I know why I'm odd and I also try to use this knowledge to help other people that have some of the same problems I do. It's such a relief to know I'm not the only one with this problem and I'm not fucked up in the head.

Glad that you realized that and didn't keep kicking yourself. I realized that I have ADHD, which explains a lot of my problems in school. Never could pay constant attention in class. :D Often daydreamed in grade school.
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
Sometimes, the black sheep are the coolest people. My brother is the black sheep, and I'm not far behind, since we are both "shacking up" and "living in sin" with our girlfriends. :rolleyes:

Only the fact that I'm not divorced puts me slightly ahead of him. Although being involved with a divorced woman isn't helping me any.

Hehe, yeah.

Black sheep, "accidental" child and twice divorced.

Wheeee!
 
Recidiva said:
Yes, my brother tells his children I'm possessed :)
Yes, we had this discussion already, you're possessed and I'm the devil incarnate! ;)
 
Sometimes I'm amazed that we survive, considering the question of love and the seeming lack of it. Not sexual love alone, but all the kinds of love there are -- that we want it, that we give it with conditions or without, or don't give it, or can't, or do but don't show it, or give it hoping to get it back...the medium of exchange for human life.

Why we love, or don't love, or can't love, or do...why love blooms, why love dies...how love can be good or be bad, healthy or poisonous or dangerous...sometimes I think the permutations and variations of this is the only theme in any story.
 
My chief one is probably the realization that I will never have an affectionate or close relationship with one of my siblings, and that that can gradually come to be accepted without bitterness. It's still difficult for me - the last part - as I wasted immense quantities of time and energy attempting to create a warm family relationship that that sibling never wanted. It is painful to recall so many harsh rebuffs, and to recognize that that sibling has never respected me in any way or for any thing. Still, recognizing that is the beginning of recognizing that my sibling's attitude doesn't actually have a great deal to do with me personally. The epiphany came years ago, but the spadework is a long process.

My other epiphany is more recent and more pleasant. I love writing and wish to devote myself to it utterly. I care very little whether I succeed or fail in the eyes of the world; I only want to plunge into it and let it immerse me in all that I love.

Shanglan
 
malachiteink said:
Sometimes I'm amazed that we survive, considering the question of love and the seeming lack of it. Not sexual love alone, but all the kinds of love there are -- that we want it, that we give it with conditions or without, or don't give it, or can't, or do but don't show it, or give it hoping to get it back...the medium of exchange for human life.

Why we love, or don't love, or can't love, or do...why love blooms, why love dies...how love can be good or be bad, healthy or poisonous or dangerous...sometimes I think the permutations and variations of this is the only theme in any story.
Survive! I've been dead for over two centuries! Just ask anyone!
 
malachiteink said:
Sometimes I'm amazed that we survive, considering the question of love and the seeming lack of it. Not sexual love alone, but all the kinds of love there are -- that we want it, that we give it with conditions or without, or don't give it, or can't, or do but don't show it, or give it hoping to get it back...the medium of exchange for human life.

Why we love, or don't love, or can't love, or do...why love blooms, why love dies...how love can be good or be bad, healthy or poisonous or dangerous...sometimes I think the permutations and variations of this is the only theme in any story.

All those variations make life worth living.
 
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