Epic case of false arrest

[R. Richard]

Not intending this to be your regular "hate all cops" thread (hi, RR). But the accumulated meltdown of ohgodwhatweretheythinking? in this one story was kind of epic. I wuldn't buy it if it was fiction...

Liar, I feel that you're unfairly judging me. I don't hate all cops, just live ones. OK, and a few freshly dead ones.

I have been mistreated by scumbags. I don't take mistreatment well. The scumbags don't like people who stand up for their rights. The scumbags also don't like to right the wrongs they do. Yes, they do have professional ass kissers in the city government who apologize. I don't want apologies, I want someone to find out why a problem occured and take reasonable steps to see that the same problem doesn't again occur. [By the way, I have been accused of taking reasonable steps to see that the scumbags don't mistreat me again. I won't respond to that, other than to say, the same scumbag didn't ever again try to mistreat me.]

 

[cloudy]

Liar, I feel that you're unfairly judging me. I don't hate all cops, just live ones. OK, and a few freshly dead ones.

I have been mistreated by scumbags. I don't take mistreatment well. The scumbags don't like people who stand up for their rights. The scumbags also don't like to right the wrongs they do. Yes, they do have professional ass kissers in the city government who apologize. I don't want apologies, I want someone to find out why a problem occured and take reasonable steps to see that the same problem doesn't again occur. [By the way, I have been accused of taking reasonable steps to see that the scumbags don't mistreat me again. I won't respond to that, other than to say, the same scumbag didn't ever again try to mistreat me.]

Tell the truth...you just save these responses and copy & paste them over and over again, right? This one and the one about "whi' boy" that I find so surreal.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Tell the truth...you just save these responses and copy & paste them over and over again, right? This one and the one about "whi' boy" that I find so surreal.

*Snerk*

 

[xssve]

Like I was saying before, they would be lucky to make it to the car if it were my daughter. Either I'd grab a shotgun or a big kitchen knife, and either way one of them would be missing a head if they didn't identify themselves as a police officer fast enough, and I had better see a badge before a weapon.

First off, we do and ought to hold the police to a higher standard than we do your common street thug - it might be your door they're breaking down. Unfortunately, these guys are usually carefully screened, and rejected if they show any signs of imagination or intelligence, seriously. Most do, with experience, gain a certain perspective - some don't.

Second, badges don't even mean thing anymore, in Florida particularly, home invasions by thugs with uniforms, badges, the works, were common in the Eighties - seems like there was one not too long ago - you can get a badge on the internet without much trouble I imagine, and there are uniform shops everywhere.

This naturally complicates things, and means that dispatchers and police alike need to stay on it - it is a terribly underpaid job, considering the risks.

 

[slyc_willie]

Liar, I feel that you're unfairly judging me. I don't hate all cops, just live ones. OK, and a few freshly dead ones.

I have been mistreated by scumbags. I don't take mistreatment well. The scumbags don't like people who stand up for their rights. The scumbags also don't like to right the wrongs they do. Yes, they do have professional ass kissers in the city government who apologize. I don't want apologies, I want someone to find out why a problem occured and take reasonable steps to see that the same problem doesn't again occur. [By the way, I have been accused of taking reasonable steps to see that the scumbags don't mistreat me again. I won't respond to that, other than to say, the same scumbag didn't ever again try to mistreat me.]

There aren't too many people in the world I pity. You're one of them. Not because of this post, but rather, all of them.

I've always wondered why the 'ignore' function on chat boards like this was created. Honestly, if one didn't have the will to simply ignore someone on their own, I didn't see a reason to let a computer program block them for me.

There are many people on this forum whom I might place on ignore. I don't, however, because, at the least, they sometimes have something entertaining to say.

But, seriously, R. Richard . . . this juvenile stance, this extreme hatred . . . to say it's pathetic would be insulting to everything else labeled with that adjective. I wish I could say I might miss something interesting by blocking your posts.

But I can't.

 

[Liar]

Liar, I feel that you're unfairly judging me. I don't hate all cops, just live ones. OK, and a few freshly dead ones.

OMG, he called them "cops". Score one for the English language!

I have been mistreated by scumbags.

Ok, English v Richardism, 1-1.

I have been mistreated by scumbags too. Sometimes the scumbags were cops.

You can harbor any feelings you want toward the police. And you can pose as the Internet Tough Guy or Real Life Tough Guy all you want, I don't mind. But as long as you insist of trying to communicate with made-up semantics, I reserve the right to laugh at you.

 

[R. Richard]

There aren't too many people in the world I pity. You're one of them. Not because of this post, but rather, all of them.

I've always wondered why the 'ignore' function on chat boards like this was created. Honestly, if one didn't have the will to simply ignore someone on their own, I didn't see a reason to let a computer program block them for me.

There are many people on this forum whom I might place on ignore. I don't, however, because, at the least, they sometimes have something entertaining to say.

But, seriously, R. Richard . . . this juvenile stance, this extreme hatred . . . to say it's pathetic would be insulting to everything else labeled with that adjective. I wish I could say I might miss something interesting by blocking your posts.

But I can't.

There are several who don't wish to have me express my opinion in this forum. Of course, that's just your opinion.

When I first arrived in my current area, I had a major confrontation with the scumbags. I asked the mental retard who seemed to be in charge of the scumbages if he wanted a war. He replied, "Yeah, I want a war, loudmouth!" Since that time, I have had more than one meeting with the people who run my town, chaired by the man who provides a great deal of my employment. They now tell me that they don't want a war. They also tell me that the scumbag who gave me a direct police order, "...was way out of line." I told them that they are in charge of the scumbag in question and it's their responsibility to cure the problem. They don't want to accept the responsibility, but they sure don't want a war. I told them how to cure the problem, without violence and definitely without hate. They rejected my solution, without providing a solution of their own. I find that pathetic. What I find more pathetic is that you people are, in effect, gladly paying for such incompetence.

As to my opinon of the police. Let me offer some solid evidence of the almost total incompetence of the scumbags. Again, what I find more pathetic is that you people are, in effect, gladly paying for such incompetence. Since you pity me, perhaps you could explain to me why you insist upon paying for documented incompetence, instead of using the money to help citizens. TIA.

Guard to Continue Patrolling New Orleans

Friday, December 19, 2008 5:30 PM

NEW ORLEANS -- About 100 National Guard troops will continue patrolling New Orleans, where they have been a constant presence since a rash of violence broke out in June 2006 in the city ravaged by Hurricane Katrina.

Louisiana lawmakers on Friday approved funding to keep the troops in place through February, an extension sought by police Superintendent Warren Riley to allow his department more time to recruit more officers. The city has granted repeated extensions for the same reason.

Troops with sidearms and riding in Humvees have helped patrol less populated neighborhoods to allow police to focus on curbing violent crime, widely seen as a threat to New Orleans' recovery. And Riley said progress has been made, with police reporting at least 176 murders so far in 2008, compared with 202 a year ago.

But the cost of keeping the troops in the city did raise the ire of members of the Legislature's joint budget committee. They said the state, facing a $341 million budget deficit this fiscal year and more trouble ahead, can't afford to continue keeping the Guard in New Orleans. Louisiana's total tab, when the latest extension expires, will be about $51 million.

"We want you to feel comfortable," the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee, Rep. Jim Fannin, told Riley. "But we do feel like it is your responsibility."

Before the August 2005 storm depleted the department's ranks, it had more than 1,660 officers. Riley has overseen an aggressive recruiting program and hopes to have 1,500 officers by year's end.

In January, the state extended the Guard's stay that was characterized as the city's last.

That was followed in June by Gov. Bobby Jindal announcing plans to phase out troops by year's end.

"My intention is for this to be the last time," Riley told lawmakers in Baton Rouge Friday.

Jindal earlier this week said he's willing to work with the city but the Guard isn't a permanent solution to crime-fighting.

A National Guard spokesman estimated the number of soldiers still in the city at about 200.

Riley had said he'd like to have about 120 troops remain through February, beyond the upcoming college football bowl games that attract thousands, and tourist-favorite Mardi Gras. Mayor Ray Nagin this week put the number as low as 75.

Since Katrina, city leaders, who face a financial crunch of their own, have poured millions of dollars into the police department's budget, allowing for new hires, pay raises and equipment included armored-type vehicles.

Still, people are scared and have even been willing to tax themselves for extra, private patrols in some neighborhoods, City Councilwoman Shelley Midura said Thursday.

Riley responded that progress is being made, morale is better and that the city is safer than a year ago.

 

[Safe_Bet]

As to my opinon of the police. Let me offer some solid evidence of the almost total incompetence of the scumbags. Again, what I find more pathetic is that you people are, in effect, gladly paying for such incompetence. Since you pity me, perhaps you could explain to me why you insist upon paying for documented incompetence, instead of using the money to help citizens. TIA.

A policeman was hailed a lifesaver today after dragging a woman from her blazing home. The victim collapsed after breathing in smoke but was saved by the officer, who pulled her to safety.

Firefighters said she could have died without his help after her lounge was gutted by flames.

Watch commander Clive Mason, based at Sheldon Fire Station, said: "We always advise people not to enter fire situations because we know the damage smoke can cause.

"But, in these circumstances, there's little doubt the officer either saved her life or stopped her being more seriously injured.

It would have been a lot worse had he not been there at the time."

The officer, who could not be immediately named by West Midlands Police, was alerted by members of the public to the blaze, which broke out in the woman's maisonette at Yorklea Croft, Chelmsley Wood, at around 8.30pm yesterday.

Here's another fine example of your "incompetent scumbags." You know RR, I bet some of the "scumbags" would even risk their lives to pull your stupid ass out of a fire. go figure, huh?

 

[R. Richard]

Here's another fine example of your "incompetent scumbags." You know RR, I bet some of the "scumbags" would even risk their lives to pull your stupid ass out of a fire. go figure, huh?

I don't have to go figure. In almost any class of people, there are those who are competent and even heroic. I admire competence and even more admire heros. I will note that, from the story, the hero operated against scumbag orders.

Some of the people I'm forced to deal with in my work are a danger to the scumbags, which scumbags I regard as my mortal enemies. I reduce the danger to the scumbags, not because of any admiration for the scumbags, but because its my job.

You consider me stupid. I suspect that your opinion is colored by the level of hate that I exhibit. Most people don't like hate. Unfortunately, for me, hate is a working tool. Without hate, I would never have survived. I have, on two occasions, had what I will describe as conversations with licensed psychiatrists. In each case, they arrived at the conclusion that I was paranoid. Their professional judgment suffered something of a setback when they were professionally advised that the people whom I thought were against me were indeed trying to kill me.

No, I don't like living in my world. Unfortunately, for me it's the only game in town and always has been.

There are those in this forum who have stated that they are/were the victims of racial, religious or national origin discrimination. I'm aware of such discrimination and I don't support it in any way, shape or form. However, they at least have others like them to stand with them. I have had to solve my problems on my own.

 

[SlickTony]

Words fail.

 

[slyc_willie]

You know RR, I bet some of the "scumbags" would even risk their lives to pull your stupid ass out of a fire. go figure, huh?

They absolutely would. And, as better men or women, they wouldn't even think about the P.O.S. they saved, nor his paranoid delusions/politics.

Because that's the job. I find nobility in that.

 

[Liar]

You consider me stupid.

I don't. I consider you semantically challenged.

Even if all fruit where you live are bananas, it doesn't make fruit bananas.

 

[R. Richard]

They absolutely would. And, as better men or women, they wouldn't even think about the P.O.S. they saved, nor his paranoid delusions/politics.

Because that's the job. I find nobility in that.

No they wouldn't. I was threatened with physical violence, in writing. I tried to file a complaint with 'the authorities.' They wouldn't even take the complaint. Later, when the person who threatened me crashed his car into a bridge abutment at 100+ MPH, the same people who wouldn't take my complaint were at my door at 3AM, despite the fact that the death occurred two states away.

You criticise me for using hate. I explained why I use hate. You now spew hate, including hate where you make medical diagnoses that you are in no way qualified to make. Before you criticise me, you might look at yourself.

 

[R. Richard]

I don't. I consider you semantically challenged.

Even if all fruit where you live are bananas, it doesn't make fruit bananas.

The word 'scumbag' is used by police officers to describe their own, not very well regarded, members. I simply use the term to describe those same people with whom I have to deal on a pretty much day by day basis.

I realize that not all of them are scumbags, however, I find the vast majority of them to be, in fact, scumbags. Much of my business results from the failure of the scumbags to do their job. In generating business, the scumbags actually aid me, via inaction. Then, they have the unmigated gall to criticise the way they think that I do the job they were hired to do.

To ward off the timewasting, nasty insults from several members of the Literotica forum, let me quite you something factual about the LAPD sumbags:
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Special Order 40 is a policy established in Los Angeles in 1979. Special Order 40 prohibits police officers from “initiat(ing) police action with the objective of discovering the alien status of a person.” This prevents officers from inquiring about the immigration status of an individual and from contacting federal immigration officials about an individual’s immigration status. In May, 2006, Judicial Watch filed a taxpayer lawsuit in the Superior Court of the State of California, County of Los Angeles asking the court to prohibit the LAPD from expending taxpayer funds to enforce and maintain Special Order 40, which violates both federal immigration laws and California law while placing American citizens at risk. After Judicial Watch filed the taxpayer lawsuit, ACLU lawyers intervened for illegal aliens to help defend the Special Order 40 sanctuary policy.

In 1996, Congress enacted legislation that states that a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual. California law mandates that police officers enforce immigration laws and work with federal immigration officials.

Special Order 40 is an illegal policy that places the citizens of Los Angeles (and the nation) at risk.
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The same scumbags who would supposedly put themselves at risk to save my life are, at least from their own statements [policy,] conspiring to violate federal law. Read it and peep.

 

[Safe_Bet]

No they wouldn't. I was threatened with physical violence, in writing. I tried to file a complaint with 'the authorities.' They wouldn't even take the complaint. Later, when the person who threatened me crashed his car into a bridge abutment at 100+ MPH, the same people who wouldn't take my complaint were at my door at 3AM, despite the fact that the death occurred two states away.

You criticise me for using hate. I explained why I use hate. You now spew hate, including hate where you make medical diagnoses that you are in no way qualified to make. Before you criticise me, you might look at yourself.

I keep waiting for R.Richard to come popping out!

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[cloudy]

I keep waiting for R.Richard to come popping out!

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/Safe_Bet2008/pic1_antique_cuckoo.jpg

I'm partial to this one:

http://www.2upbeatmag.com/PARANOID-GUY/paranoid-guy1.gif

 

[john-the-author]

That's just !

I mean, I can't believe this has gone on this long, especially since the cops were clearly in the wrong.

I bet they'd react differently if it were their kids in that situation.

It's fucking TEXAS. It's not like it's civilized.

But I also want to add this: my stepmother is a retired major metro Chief of Police. I asked her about what to do in a case of mistaken identity like this. She said that you actually should do your best to remain calm and ask for the officer in charge. She says you're going to eat concrete if you resist, so just be as calm as the situation demands, get everyone's name and badge number you can, and wait for things to unravel. Mistakes happen, she says, and it's not good. But save your response, because you're dealing with hyped-up adrenaline-soaked guys with guns and mace and clubs who aren't going to believe anything you say.

 

[R. Richard]

But I also want to add this: my stepmother is a retired major metro Chief of Police. I asked her about what to do in a case of mistaken identity like this. She said that you actually should do your best to remain calm and ask for the officer in charge. She says you're going to eat concrete if you resist, so just be as calm as the situation demands, get everyone's name and badge number you can, and wait for things to unravel. Mistakes happen, she says, and it's not good. But save your response, because you're dealing with hyped-up adrenaline-soaked guys with guns and mace and clubs who aren't going to believe anything you say.

The correct terminology is to ask for a supervisor. They will get a supervisor, since they will eventually have to get a supervisor. If they delay getting a supervisor and the supervisor then has to publically explain why his scumbags were arresting a 12-year-old black girl in response to a complaint about three white hookers, the supervisor tends to get a bit upset. The supervisor makes assignments as to where his scumbags work in the future. Scumbags will go to great lengths to avoid pissing off a supervisor.

 

[Liar]

But I also want to add this: my stepmother is a retired major metro Chief of Police. I asked her about what to do in a case of mistaken identity like this. She said that you actually should do your best to remain calm and ask for the officer in charge. She says you're going to eat concrete if you resist, so just be as calm as the situation demands, get everyone's name and badge number you can, and wait for things to unravel. Mistakes happen, she says, and it's not good. But save your response, because you're dealing with hyped-up adrenaline-soaked guys with guns and mace and clubs who aren't going to believe anything you say.

Well, yes. If I know the people dragging me away are cops, I'll certainly keep my cool. If they havern't made clear, in uncertain terms, that they re officers and that you're under arrest, any reasonable person will defend themselves against strangers attacking them. It's when that leads to charges of "resisting arrest" and "assault on officer", that we're in Kafka land.

Oh hello, unidentified thugs with guns. May I speak with your supervisor, please?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Exactly. That was a example of a mistake handled well. I think the two cases are pretty comparable. It was cops doing their routine job, but messing it up and scariong the bejezus out of innocent people. But here, when cops did bad, cops immediately said "our bad", took good care of the victims of their mistake, and that was that. No sensation-news, no lawsuit, no public outcry. And the police force came out of the ordeal smelling like roses, compared to the Gavelston incident.

The babysitter, for instance, was commended for her resourceful actions when confronted with what appeared to be an armed robbery. Not booked for resisting arrest.

I wonder if the policemen in Gavelston would have been more apologetic if the had been looking for 3black women and arrested a little white girl instead... I somehow feel that the reason why they're behaving like assholes suing the poor girl's family is because they're black.

Fucking racists.