Enron exec dead- suicide or murder?

Do you think this death was...

  • Suicide?

    Votes: 11 40.7%
  • Murder?

    Votes: 9 33.3%
  • Ohter/I don't know

    Votes: 7 25.9%

  • Total voters
    27

Cheyenne

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My first ever poll, if it works. If not, my question is if you think Baxter was a suicide or murder?

Former Enron Executive Apparently Commits Suicide
By C. Bryson Hull

HOUSTON (Reuters) - A former top Enron Corp. executive who railed against the murky transactions that ultimately ruined the energy giant and whose knowledge was sought by congressional investigators apparently shot himself to death on Friday, Texas police said.

J. Clifford Baxter, 43, was found with a single gunshot wound to the head early on Friday in Sugar Land, a suburb southwest of Houston, police there said.

Baxter was seated inside his Mercedes Benz with a suicide note and revolver at his side, police spokeswoman Patricia Whitty said. There were no apparent signs of foul play and he had Enron identification in his wallet, she said. The car was parked in a turn lane between two medians near his affluent neighborhood.

``We feel that it is a suicide, but we are taking all precautions that are necessary,'' Sgt. Truman Body said. He declined to divulge the contents of the note, saying that the investigation was still open. An autopsy was underway on Friday.

Congressional investigators had sought to interview Baxter last week while they were in Houston talking to others about Enron, congressional committee sources told Reuters on Friday.

``We did not seek testimony from him yet. His name was brought up numerous times during investigators' meetings,'' with other interviewees, a congressional source said. But investigators made it known to his lawyer that they wanted to interview him, they said.

Baxter's Washington attorney, Michael Levy, declined comment.

ABC News, citing two company sources, reported that Baxter was depressed and concerned about being questioned about the activities of his former colleagues and friends. The network, quoting law enforcement sources, reported the suicide note said he could not stand the pain of the Enron scandal.

Baxter resigned in May, ostensibly to spend more time with his family, but had expressed his concerns about Enron's dealings before then.

TOOK EARLY STAND AGAINST DEALS

He had reportedly feuded with then-chief executive officer Jeffrey Skilling over the propriety of off-balance sheet transactions that hid billions in debt and triggered the once-mighty Houston company's spiral into the largest bankruptcy in U.S. history.

``Cliff Baxter complained mightily to Skilling and all who would listen about the inappropriateness of our transactions with LJM,'' Enron whistle-blower Sherron Watkins wrote to Chairman and CEO Ken Lay, who resigned on Wednesday, in an Aug. 14 letter.

His complaints targeted the LJM and LJM2 investment partnerships managed by then-chief financial officer Andrew Fastow, who earned $30 million for that work plus his Enron salary. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is
investigating, and Enron's collapse is the focus of a Justice Department criminal inquiry and nine congressional probes.

Fastow declined to comment through a representative. A Skilling spokeswoman said he ``was devastated by the loss of very dear friend.'' He would have no other comment, she said.

Enron said it was ``deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our friend and colleague, Cliff Baxter. Our thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends.'' He is survived by a wife and two children, the company said.

``We are suffering a loss of our beloved husband, father and friend and respectfully wish not to be disturbed at this time,'' Baxter's family said in a statement. ``The funeral services will be private and will be open only to family and close friends.''

TARGETED IN LAWSUIT

Baxter was one of 29 of Enron's top directors and insiders targeted in a lawsuit accusing them of cashing in on inside information at the expense of stockholders. According to court records, Baxter earned some $35.2 million by exercising Enron stock options between 1998 and 2001.

His role at Enron, people familiar with his career there say, was primarily in mergers and acquisitions. He helped engineer the purchases to build up Enron's failed water venture, Azurix Corp., and of Oregon utility Portland General Electric in 1997.

A native of Amityville, New York, he joined Enron in 1991 after a career as an investment banker and serving as a U.S. Air Force captain, from 1980-85. He earned his bachelor's degree from New York University in 1980 and his MBA from Columbia University in 1987, where he was valedictorian of his class.

He was named chairman and CEO of Enron North America, the then-powerful trading division, before being named chief strategy officer and then vice chairman in October 2000. He was not, despite the title, second-in-command. That role fell to Skilling, who assumed CEO duties from Lay in February 2001, before resigning unexpectedly six months later.

His suicide is not the first in the wake of a corporate scandal. Publisher Robert Maxwell threw himself from his yacht and drowned in the Atlantic after revelations of massive financial fraud in his crumbling empire.

A geologist who worked for Canadian miner Bre-X Minerals fell to his death from a helicopter over an Indonesian jungle weeks before it became public that the company's touted gold play was a fraud, costing investors $4 billion.
 
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not enough options

I heard that he was abducted by Lexians, who replaced him with the body of a homeless guy sothat they could get the secrets of our power grid before invading out of the Orion sector.

What, thats not a choice?

Humrph!
 
Is it really possible to fake a suicide in such a high profile case?
 
As the article says, suicide isn't that uncommon in the wake of corporate scandal.

For people who base their self-worth on what they do for a living and what they accomplish in the business world, something like an Enron disaster may shatter them. All of the respect, admiration, perks of the position, etc. are gone in an instant. Not only are they gone, but your life switches to the polar opposite where people suddenly hate you for what you are and what you did. The illusion of being a "good person" is gone. If you feel like you are are at rock bottom, it isn't too hard to see the next step might be escape. Suicide is the ultimate escape for cowards not willing to face their life as they have created it.

Financial ruin alone can be a basis for wanting to escape. Remember the stories of people on Wall Street jumping out of windows during the stock market crash in 1929? They lost everything and saw no reason to continue living.

I wouldn't be surprised if Baxter is just the first in a series of suicides. I wouldn't have been surprised if an Arthur Andersen auditor had been first in the suicide parade, either. If a CPA has no integrity to back his work, his career is over. He is selling his word, nothing else. Having the partner on the Enron engagement resign was just a formality. His career was already gone.

As for Baxter, he fits exactly the person I would expect to want to escape from the whole Enron mess before having to answer a lot of unpleasant questions. I vote "suicide."
 
Assuming you have one, an explanation about the reason for your vote would be nice, too.
 
Coward blew his brains out....Enron makes Houston seem all the more the wretched city it already is..I tell ppl I am from Houston...and they say ooh did you know about the scandel? NO!! sheesh...My problem with his killling himself is why did he leave his family alone? He has a wife and kids....:(
 
Silverluna said:
Coward blew his brains out....Enron makes Houston seem all the more the wretched city it already is..I tell ppl I am from Houston...and they say ooh did you know about the scandel? NO!! sheesh...My problem with his killling himself is why did he leave his family alone? He has a wife and kids....:(

Houston is just as wretched as you make it for yourself. Just like any other place on the planet.

I strongly suspect one of the reasons he killed himself was specifically to protect his wife and children from the pain and humiliation the investigation and his possible imprisonment would put them through.

I hope a lawyer will address this, but I think there may be another reason. Texas is not a "community property" state. As I understand it, with Baxter alive, all the money generated by his possibly illegal sale of stock options would be subject to forfeiture. However, once the money becomes the property of his wife and children, it may not be subject to the same claims. Maybe he WAS thinking of his wife and children.

Even though my barber thinks he was murdered, I think it was suicide.

Just some thoughts.
 
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Suicide by a likely candidate. He had no known ties to Bill Clinton & the Mina airport. No evidence to the contrary.
 
Does it Matter?

If he committed suicide or was murdered seems about the same to me. Something is very, very wrong. I find myself being consumed by the long term impact of the whole episode. How it will affect history.

These supposedly intelligent people who were Enron took action with little thought of the tsunami it would cause.

This man's death is but a wave or a ripple across our society in the impact of this scandel.

Where is their integrity? How many other people need to learn from this episode?
 
Cheyenne said:
My first ever poll, if it works. If not, my question is if you think Baxter was a suicide or murder?

It was probably suicide, but the investigation is still in progress, so I don't know enough to say whether it was or not.
 
The note is in Bill Clinton's handwriting......and has semen stains on it!!

RhumbRunner
 
There is this e-mail floating around on the web about how many people were killed or commited suicide when Clinton was president. I thin k the list was like 60 or so and the people involved where connected to the White House in some way.

I think it might have been murder or that his family was in danger if he spoke against Enron and the parties involved. Maybe it was not about the money for his family, but their safety. High profile people are usually corrupted IMO. You can't climb to the top or get those high-profile execs, without them having perks at times.
 
Greed, Greed, Greed

Let's remember this is the guy who resigned back in May, before the shit hit the fan, he was the one who voiced his concerns - maybe they tried to pay him off to keep his mouth shut or threatened him with worse? If it was suicide, it's probably akin to being given the choice of jumping off a cliff or being pushed. How much money did he make at Enron? How much were his shares worth? Murder or suicide, in these circumstances, it's probably the same thing.
 
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