East Palestine, Ohio

[IrezumiKiss]

this...is not good, y'all.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624441160268754950

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624129831540768769

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624266093576744960

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624171535345885185

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624178225210437632

 

[ll74]

I knew they evacuated the town, but was not aware of the classification bullshit.

(In before Soros is brought up- fyi, he has no stock in this company)

 

[ll74]

First PA class action lawsuit filed against Norfolk Southern for East Palestine train derailment​

 

[ll74]

Rail Companies Blocked Safety Rules Before Ohio Derailment​

Norfolk Southern helped convince government officials to repeal brake rules — and corporate lobbyists watered down hazmat safety regs.

Amid the lobbying blitz against stronger transportation safety regulations, Norfolk Southern paid executives millions and spent billions on stock buybacks — all while the company shed thousands of employees despite warnings that understaffing is intensifying safety risks. Norfolk Southern officials also fought off a shareholder initiative that could have required company executives to “assess, review, and mitigate risks of hazardous material transportation.”

 

[Plasmaball]

it's fairly bad. There was a moment their my kids may have had to miss school given the path

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1625683474807140357

 

[Dribble]

So many people complaining...thinking issues are new. They aren't. Social media just spreads details...or potential details...quicker. But this is what Americans vote for.

 

[Dribble]

So many people complaining...thinking issues are new. They aren't. Social media just spreads details...or potential details...quicker. But this is what Americans vote for.

Case in point...see the tweet above claiming the chemicals were classified as non-hazardous....were they? Everything I have seen shows they were properly classified. And because they were...first responders were able to handle the spill effectively.

 

[ll74]

Case in point...see the tweet above claiming the chemicals were classified as non-hazardous....were they? Everything I have seen shows they were properly classified. And because they were...first responders were able to handle the spill effectively.

That was in error. The real story is that NS fought (and won) against regulations that would've kept the train from getting this close to residences. (See my second source)

 

[Dribble]

That was in error. The real story is that NS fought (and won) against regulations that would've kept the train from getting this close to residences. (See my second source)

Lol...why is that a "story"? Ok...let's play...what alternative transportation do you suggest? Shall we create dedicated rail lines? So how do you propose to get a product from Point A to Point B without traveling through a town? What has a higher accident rate...rail...or semi? Does the probability of a accident increase or decrease on transfer rate? Why were rail lines built where they are?

This is the issue I have with my fellow Democrats...they are reactive. Not proactive. They complain...but have no solutions.

My question...why did the train derail? Were they traveling too fast? Was a bearing out on the car? Was there actual infrastructure issues? Answering these questions are way more important than trying to propose a whole new rail system avoiding habitation...whi h east of the Mississippi is impossible.

 

[ll74]

Lol...why is that a "story"?

Because a train derailed.

Ok...let's play...what alternative transportation do you suggest? Shall we create dedicated rail lines? So how do you propose to get a product from Point A to Point B without traveling through a town? What has a higher accident rate...rail...or semi? Does the probability of a accident increase or decrease on transfer rate? Why were rail lines built where they are?

I'm not suggesting anything

This is the issue I have with my fellow Democrats...they are reactive. Not proactive. They complain...but have no solutions.

I wasn't complaining, actually. Just discussing. A good solution would be to have engineers of railroads get together and analyze the fault of the rails as well as proximity to residences and add new railways if able and new regulations where required.

Perhaps new types of railcars could be designed.

If I were an engineer in the rail industry, perhaps I'd have more suggestions for ya...sorry.

Likely, more resources are needed as I'm guessing that inspections have been skipped because of lack of workers.

My question...why did the train derail? Were they traveling too fast? Was a bearing out on the car? Was there actual infrastructure issues? Answering these questions are way more important than trying to propose a whole new rail system avoiding habitation...whi h east of the Mississippi is impossible.

We don't have this information because the investigation is still underway.

 

[Chobham]

Lol...why is that a "story"? Ok...let's play...what alternative transportation do you suggest? Shall we create dedicated rail lines? So how do you propose to get a product from Point A to Point B without traveling through a town? What has a higher accident rate...rail...or semi? Does the probability of a accident increase or decrease on transfer rate? Why were rail lines built where they are?

This is the issue I have with my fellow Democrats...they are reactive. Not proactive. They complain...but have no solutions.

My question...why did the train derail? Were they traveling too fast? Was a bearing out on the car? Was there actual infrastructure issues? Answering these questions are way more important than trying to propose a whole new rail system avoiding habitation...whi h east of the Mississippi is impossible.

Preliminary reports suggest a bearing went out. I know that the RR's have heat sensing monitoring stations at regular intervals on their track, especially on the mainlines, which this is. So, if a bearing is the cause was the monitor station faulty? Had it been tampered with? Or was this just a catastrophic failure? The NTSB report will cover it.

Buttplug is uniquely incompetent for the position he's in, but he didn't cause the derailment nor did any action he took, or didn't take, cause it.

Rail is the second most efficient means of transporting bulk goods fuel wise and cost wise. Only water transport is more efficient. (Pipelines are more efficient for liquid/gas product but they don't stand up to corrosive chemicals very well.) There's an entire cadre of individuals out there that enjoy the benefits of modern living but bitch about the transport of the very raw materials that make that life style possible.

 

[icanhelp1]

Can't believe the classification of vinyl chloride was downgraded. What were they thinking. Government coverup in full bloom.

section II msds;

Global Harmonization System (GHS) Classification:

Category 2 Skin corrosion/irritation

Category 2 Eye damage/eye irritation

Category 1 Known human Carcinogen

Category 1 Specific target organ toxicity - Single and repeated exposu


DANGER! POISON! Extremely flammable liquid and vapor — Vapor may cause flash fire. May be fatal if inhaled. May cause frostbite. Inhalation may cause central nervous system effects and narcosis. May cause anesthetic effects. Possible cancer hazard. Keep upwind of spill. Vapor explosion hazard. Vapors may travel a long distance; ignition and/or flash back may occur. Flammable gas that is heavier than air. Stay out of low areas. Warn public of downwind explosion hazard. Elevated temperatures can cause hazardous polymerization. Eliminate ignition sources. Avoid temperatures above 400°C (752°F)

PRODUCES PHOSGENE GAS WHEN BURNED

 

[schism666]

Buttplug is uniquely incompetent for the position he's in,

what has he specifically done or not done to warrant this accusation?

 

[John_von_Neumann]

what has he specifically done or not done to warrant this accusation?

I don't think it's about what he's done. It's about who his is and what he represents to Ishy. Buttigieg is a successful, intelligent, family man. And he's gay, and in a gay marriage. Hence, Assmeal's bigotry.

 

[schism666]

I don't think it's about what he's done. It's about who his is and what he represents to Ishy. Buttigieg is a successful, intelligent, family man. And he's gay, and in a gay marriage. Hence, Assmeal's bigotry.

i agree. ish admires him from behind closet doors.

 

[icanhelp1]

Case in point...see the tweet above claiming the chemicals were classified as non-hazardous....were they? Everything I have seen shows they were properly classified. And because they were...first responders were able to handle the spill effectively.

I would think the fire department had MSDSs on file,

 

[lazy_literotic]

railroads have been around for 100+ yrs - rr wrecks and spills have been since day one.
chemicals have to move and by law railroads is required to transport them.
the railroads have emergency hazmat phone number - that will be immediately picked up.
they can instantly identify which train is at issue, possible chemicals - and if they have a car number - exact haz info.
if you notice cities grew up around railroads - so they go thru towns.
if you're going to blame anyone - blame jr's daddy and billionaire - they got 1.9 trillion to fix the railroads.
and the airports, and the cities.
I knew they wouldn't do shit.

 

[phrodeau]

they got 1.9 trillion to fix the railroads.
and the airports, and the cities.
I knew they wouldn't do shit.

Yeah, and they’ve had a whole eight months of construction season and loads of available labor to get all that done.

 

[icanhelp1]

Palestine has become a superfund site! Much like GE and PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls).

Railroad needs to own up, purchase all property within a 2 mile radius, resettle everyone within that area like yesterday. Evacuate everyone period! Start a massive cleanup operation immediately.

 

[lazy_literotic]

I don't think it's a superfund site -
it's more like a railroad's responsibility to clean it up.

 

[schism666]

I would think

in a perfect world, yes you would.

 

[Rotadom]

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1626093550478954496

If Norfolk Southern does not do right by the people of that town (and just basically everyone affected by this seemingly preventable accident) a whole lotta ugly is gonna happen really fast.

 

[Lazaran]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1626093550478954496

If Norfolk Southern does not do right by the people of that town (and just basically everyone affected by this seemingly preventable accident) a whole lotta ugly is gonna happen really fast.

I can’t remember where I read it, but there was a strategy by the corrupt orange traitor’s administration to deregulate / enact executive orders to such an extent that the next Democratic administration would be overwhelmed trying to undo the changes.. Notably: deregulating electronically controlled pneumatic brakes on trains carrying hazardous / flammable materials.

Cause - meet effect.

See also:

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-blame-ohio-train-derailment-1781163?amp=1

Of course the RWCJs will give the corrupt orange traitor and themselves a pass for the resulting catastrophe and others like it,

SAD!!!