Drug OD Rate Now Higher in Rural U.S. Than Cities: CDC

[ChinoMoreno]

Looks like the fine folks in rural America were high when they voted for Trump.

FRIDAY, Oct. 20, 2017 (HealthDay News) -- Drug overdose death rates in rural areas of the United States are now higher than in cities, a trend that worries federal health officials.

In 2015, drug overdose was the leading cause of injury-related death in the United States -- with 52,000 fatalities attributed to opioid painkillers, heroin and other potentially deadly drugs, researchers said in a new report.
U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald said rising overdose death rates outside metropolitan areas warrant attention.

"We need to understand why this is happening so that our work with states and communities can help stop illicit drug use and overdose deaths in America," Fitzgerald said in an agency news release.
In 1999, drug overdose death rates were 6.4 per 100,000 in urban regions and 4 per 100,000 in rural areas. But the gap gradually disappeared. By 2015, the rate was 17 per 100,000 in rural areas and 16.2 per 100,000 in cities, the study findings showed.

The researchers assessed illicit drug use and disorders from 2003 to 2014, and drug overdose deaths from 1999 to 2015 in urban and rural areas. The investigators were led by Karin Mack of the CDC's National Center for Injury Prevention and Control.
Although the percentage of people reporting illegal drug use is actually lower in rural areas, the effects appear to be greater, the researchers noted.

Overall, "most overdose deaths occurred in homes, where rescue efforts may fall to relatives who have limited knowledge of or access to life-saving treatment and overdose follow-up care," the authors explained in the news release.
Looking at where drug users live and where they die from overdoses might lead to better preventive measures, the team pointed out

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[BotanyBoy]

old people......now shove it shove it shove it shove it!!!

 

[DrDelirium]

So you're blaming Trump's election on the failed policies of the previous administrations that increased the immiseration of the rural masses, pushing them into illegal drug use and other acts of desperation? Makes sense to me.

 

[phrodeau]

Whether they live or die, their votes will go to Trump.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

So you're blaming Trump's election on the failed policies of the previous administrations that increased the immiseration of the rural masses, pushing them into illegal drug use and other acts of desperation? Makes sense to me.

No. I'm saying a bunch of addicts voted for him.

 

[Que]

Whether they live or die, their votes will go to Trump.

Now, suddenly, you believe voter fraud is a thing.

 

[AngusBridie]

No. I'm saying a bunch of addicts voted for him.

its really the sober people that voted for him that should be concerning.

 

[DrDelirium]

No. I'm saying a bunch of addicts voted for him.

In 1999, drug overdose death rates were 6.4 per 100,000 in urban regions and 4 per 100,000 in rural areas. But the gap gradually disappeared. By 2015, the rate was 17 per 100,000 in rural areas and 16.2 per 100,000 in cities, the study findings showed.

Assuming that deaths are a marker for drug use in general (which the article suggests is not true, as people farther from medical care are more likely to die of overdose), there is an additional 8/10s of person on drugs out of every 100,000 rural dwellers compared to 100,000 urbanites. That's a difference of .0008% in the two populations. However, for every 100,000 rural Americans, there are 400,000 urban Americans, so if your demographic breakdown of voting trends is correct, Clinton won the addict vote by 3.81 to 1.

We do see a vast increase in addiction in both environment in the Bush II/Obama era. The overall rate of addiction went from 5.92 per 100k to 16.36 per 100k. Do you think Trump will be able to almost triple the rate again during his term?

 

[Wats_butthole]

So you're blaming Trump's election on the failed policies of the previous administrations that increased the immiseration of the rural masses, pushing them into illegal drug use and other acts of desperation? Makes sense to me.

But...but...obama made them do it!!

What an idiot.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

Assuming that deaths are a marker for drug use in general (which the article suggests is not true, as people farther from medical care are more likely to die of overdose), there is an additional 8/10s of person on drugs out of every 100,000 rural dwellers compared to 100,000 urbanites. That's a difference of .0008% in the two populations. However, for every 100,000 rural Americans, there are 400,000 urban Americans, so if your demographic breakdown of voting trends is correct, Clinton won the addict vote by 3.81 to 1.

We do see a vast increase in addiction in both environment in the Bush II/Obama era. The overall rate of addiction went from 5.92 per 100k to 16.36 per 100k. Do you think Trump will be able to almost triple the rate again during his term?

You're missing an important part of that equation... What's the percentages of those demographics that actually voted in this election.

 

[DrDelirium]

You're missing an important part of that equation... What's the percentages of those demographics that actually voted in this election.

The demographics of rural and urban drug users? You tell me. The point is that you didn't bother to math at all. Go ahead and do some now and see what you come up with.

 

[daimoniotica]

In a report on this so-called opioid crisis now occurring in America, I watched a Congressman try to demonstrate how this can happen to anybody by offering up his own son's OD death by Oxycontin as some prime example. A young guy who had it all, his pop lamented, who graduated college and then made his way to Hollywood to act, write, play music - you know, all that stuff that busies a young man's mind enough that he doesn't have time or luxury to waste on drugs and booze and sex. A self-chosen career path that must've been so painful because his Congressman dad said he decided to "self-medicate", and then blamed everyone but his son for his son killing himself.

Now, via his daughter Ivanka, the President is declaring this "epidemic a national public health emergency", and all I can do is laugh that actual people live who don't recognize natural Darwinism's outstanding contributions to the overall advancement of mankind in general.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

The demographics of rural and urban drug users? You tell me. The point is that you didn't bother to math at all. Go ahead and do some now and see what you come up with.

I'm not doing your math for you.

 

[Hypoxia]

So you're blaming Trump's election on the failed policies of the previous administrations that increased the immiseration of the rural masses, pushing them into illegal drug use and other acts of desperation? Makes sense to me.

The "immiseration of the rural masses" began long before Obama took office, with the dismantling of many protective regulations from Reagan onwards, gutting the interior economy.

Couple that with bullshit rightwing propaganda over the last few decades promising the impossible and not delivering and we get a very discouraged population. Undereducated rural guys won't get jobs, won't get girls, won't have a chance of any American dream unless it's drug-induced. Hit me up.

B-b-but Obama!

Hardly relevant.

 

[DrDelirium]

The "immiseration of the rural masses" began long before Obama took office, with the dismantling of many protective regulations from Reagan onwards, gutting the interior economy.

Couple that with bullshit rightwing propaganda over the last few decades promising the impossible and not delivering and we get a very discouraged population. Undereducated rural guys won't get jobs, won't get girls, won't have a chance of any American dream unless it's drug-induced. Hit me up.

B-b-but Obama!

Hardly relevant.

I blamed 'previous administrations,' note the plural form. I have said over and over again that the immiseration of the masses (rural or not) is long-term bi-partisan policy. Nice shot at putting words in my mouth.
I will note that the drug problem in the US goes back well before Reagan, too, and that racist policies deliberately created a prohibition and enforcement regime directed at minority communities from the early 1900s. Certainly by the time of the Vietnam War, the CIA was active in the importation of drugs to the United States.
Both parties are responsible for both the economic condition of the country and the useless and oppressive drug laws.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

I blamed 'previous administrations,' note the plural form. I have said over and over again that the immiseration of the masses (rural or not) is long-term bi-partisan policy. Nice shot at putting words in my mouth.
I will note that the drug problem in the US goes back well before Reagan, too, and that racist policies deliberately created a prohibition and enforcement regime directed at minority communities from the early 1900s. Certainly by the time of the Vietnam War, the CIA was active in the importation of drugs to the United States.
Both parties are responsible for both the economic condition of the country and the useless and oppressive drug laws.

There's not A huge opioid addiction problem in urban America and that's not the subject here. Way to interject false equivalency into the topic.

 

[Que]

There's not A huge opioid addiction problem in urban Americaand that's not the subject here. Way to interject false equivalency into the topic.

What?

 

[ChinoMoreno]

What?

What what?

 

[DrDelirium]

There's not A huge opioid addiction problem in urban America and that's not the subject here. Way to interject false equivalency into the topic.

I haven't said anything about opioids specifically. Is that what you want to hang your hat on? I merely point out that if ODs are an indicator of drug use, then the rate of the problem is almost the same in rural and urban populations, and hence there are almost four times as many drug users who may be voting D along the partisan divide that you assume in the OP. If rural Trump voters were high, almost four times as many urban Clinton voters were high.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

I haven't said anything about opioids specifically. Is that what you want to hang your hat on? I merely point out that if ODs are an indicator of drug use, then the rate of the problem is almost the same in rural and urban populations, and hence there are almost four times as many drug users who may be voting D along the partisan divide that you assume in the OP. If rural Trump voters were high, almost four times as many urban Clinton voters were high.

What drugs in rural areas do you think is the most prevalent?

 

[dolf]

At a guess, I'd say a contributing factor is maybe a higher proportion of manual labour in rural areas. People get injured, need to work, go to the doctor for pain meds, get prescribed opiates, and a few weeks later they're hooked.
That's why doctors in the UK are so reluctant to prescribe them. Even after a dislocated shoulder, the ape was told to take paracetamol or ibuprofen.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

At a guess, I'd say a contributing factor is maybe a higher proportion of manual labour in rural areas. People get injured, need to work, go to the doctor for pain meds, get prescribed opiates, and a few weeks later they're hooked.
That's why doctors in the UK are so reluctant to prescribe them. Even after a dislocated shoulder, the ape was told to take paracetamol or ibuprofen.

I'm not sure why you have a list ape age why you're feeding him opioids but you're probably right.

 

[Adre]

This red state addiction problem does not play into the Lit right wing Whackadoodle narrative one little bit. Welcome to bizarro world, BroPatrol!

 

[MelissaBaby]

Reading this thread, I get an idea of how Tom Brady must feel listening to guys talk about their fantasy football teams.

 

[ChinoMoreno]

Reading this thread, I get an idea of how Tom Brady must feel listening to guys talk about their fantasy football teams.

Because you're a recovering hardcore drug addict and know everything about everything, right? Save that rap for your stories. I'm sure immersing yourself in the fictitious drug culture is exactly the same as winning 5 super bowls.