Drop and how we deal

malinborn

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while i a thinking how i personally wish to address this, i thought i would mention this and ask how others deal with drop... top or sub. below is information i have found and posted. it may not be 100% and i know it is different for each person

my Mistress' ideas on how to deal are some alone time, a movie, some sweets to get the blood sugar going and conversation. my thoughts soon

Sub Drop

Sub drop (or subdrop or sub-drop) is a name given in BDSM to a feeling experienced by the submissive AFTER a scene.

The coming down after experiencing subspace and the return to normality can happen quickly, or slowly. It can be a nice experience, or a bad one. The effects, good or bad, can last almost no time at all, or they can go on for hours, even days. Subdrop is very subjective and personal.

For the dominant, the care of their submissive should be paramount, and maintaining control of oneself at all times is integral to taking that care. The effects of subdrop (it's usually referred to as subdrop when these are "bad" effects) are manifestly similar to a kind of depressive state.

After the submissive has rested, and even after sleeping, there can be spontaneous outbursts of emotion: tears, irrationality, fear, etc. A dominant may recognise these for what they are: a need to be comforted, and looked after, to be held, told how much the sub is needed, and how important the sub is. Submissives can crave attention, and often the sub psyche feels that they have lost the massive attention which they had before (during the scene) from their dominant, and this can cause the unease, and charged emotions that may occur in a sub drop situation. Added to this of course, are the hugely elevated amounts of naturally produced hormones (endorphins, adrenaline etc) that are still flowing around the sub's body. These may take some time to return to normal levels, and there may well be a withdrawal effect, too. The submissive is going through a mental and physical cold turkey, as the endorphins are similar to opiates.

The effect of all this can make the sub appear totally irrational: they cry for no apparent reason, you hold them and they push you away, you leave them alone and they want to be held. The dominant is responsible for helping the sub through subdrop. It takes perseverance, an acceptance of that irrationality, an ability to see past it. Aftercare is important in making the sub feel wanted, safe, secure, and comfortable.

These are several of the reasons why many do not hold with the idea of public play parties. In places where there may be little time, or a suitable place to give good aftercare to a submissive if subdrop is experienced, subdrop can become far worse than when at home, or in a secure environment, where they feel "safe", and need not worry about other people, and how they may be seen by others. Others find great pleasure in public play. There are those for whom family life (perhaps those with young children at home, or those who are not in 24/7 relationships) or whose circumstances conspire against scening at home, find that public play parties, offering a safe play environment are their only way to enjoy the physical aspects of BDSM, and D/s.

Top Drop

The sensation that a dominant feels after a scene. Like Sub Drop, Top Drop is caused by the release of hormoones after an adrenalin rush of a session. During a scene, a dominant may have a feeling of complete and utter control. After the scene, with that power now forfeit, the feeling that "something is missing" becomes quite apparent.

The Dominant may suddenly feel tired, listless, and somewhat depressed as the adrenalin wears off, hence the "drop" part of Domdrop. A lot of energy is expended when scening the sub, and the Dominant will feel this expenditure at the end of the scene.
 
Hi! I think we've got a thread around here on sub drop, but I've rarely heard of a similar happening to a Dom being brought up in conversation. This is really interesting. :)

Have you checked out the "Why Do You Whip" thread? That one is interesting as well.

-R
 
"Top drop" or Domdrop is, for me at least, a real thing. Not only do I use a substantial amount of physical energy, there is a great expenditure of mental/emotional energy as well. Fortunately, dealing with the symptoms of subdrop is almost always complete before I experience my own drop - it's a slower onset, or perhaps just the responsibility of providing her with aftercare allows me to put it off until I'm sure she's "stable."

And yes, for me, all the symptoms you described, and perhaps a bit more - but a bit of cold drink, preferably with substantial sugar content, and a cigarette, and a little congenial talk - with her if we're alone, or with her and others if at a party or other group setting - and I'm ready to go again.
 
i figured there might be something on here about it.. but well, i didn't see it recent so i put this up as both topics

i had heard the trm top drop but not sub drop.. i tend to be depressive to begin with many times so i never through anything of that extra low afterwards

i will take a look at the why we whip post
 
Sir_Winston54 said:

And yes, for me, all the symptoms you described, and perhaps a bit more - but a bit of cold drink, preferably with substantial sugar content, and a cigarette, and a little congenial talk - with her if we're alone, or with her and others if at a party or other group setting - and I'm ready to go again.


*Smiles* It seems many people have the common sugar aspect. i have seen many sites that recommend Gatorade. Thank You for the reply
 
It will happen to you eventually regardless of being a Dom or sub. It is just something you must address in your own mind, or in a sub's case, help them through if possible. It is a questioning of choices (or lack thereof) in your personal lifestyle.

The most I can offer is to say that you are not a pariah, you are not alone, and your personal actions in private help fulfill you and her, simple as that. There is nothing to be ashamed of or be afraid of in a consensual setting.
 
I'm comfortable with my choices. I just get pissy when you take all that cool adrenaline away.
 
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I can get hit by Dom Drop. Usually the comfort I receive while taking care of her is enough to get me past it.

I get smashed by my own version of Sub Drop though. I do some very physical activities, and when I really hammer myself down flat, really get the endorphins going, the drop afterwards is brutal. It also happens when I get a really serious deep-tissue massage done. When my MT does deep-tissue stripping on my neck (especially after a long period of pain) I will be a wreck an hour or so later. The last time she did it I found myself laying in bed sobbing. "v" was there, and I even told her through tears that it was drop. Didn't help =P
 
The last guy I played with regularly had top drop really, really bad.

the next day he'd be all mopey and depressed and clingy (such a turn off, frankly... i seriously had to mommy him)

sub drop and top drop both seem like the same sort of depression that people get after doing ecstasy - it's like all the endorphins run out, your saratonin drops, and the next day you're just depressed.
 
I don't really do sub drop. Probably cause I go to sleep immediately after, and so possibly sleep through my sub drop. *shrugs*
 
I only get top drop after a heavy scene when the adrenalin pumps extra hard -- I couldn't even get to that point, way I feel today!

My girl, Pita, gets subdrop in somewhat the same fashion. Seems like several hours, or even a day later.

It's an excuse for us both to indulge in chocolate. Hell, if it wasn't that, it'd be something else.

Personally, I like to try to shake it off by getting busy. Sometimes that works.

ST
 
I get two different drops. One comes right after an intence scene, when I am coming out of slave space especially. For that one, I get some oj and just sit at the dom's feet or cuddle while he pets me, also some hugging and kissing and praize helps a lot at this stage.

The next day I can get a little since of loneliness and abandonment. That's when surprize emails or text or phone calls remind me that this person isn't just going to fuck and run but that they will see me thru things.

In the mean time, the time before that phone call, I try to walk a lot, and keep food in me. When I'm upset i either eat a lot of really bad stuff or don't eat at all. Neither is good for my sugar, so I really focas on eating lots of protein and staying away from all the sugars and starches.
 
Softouch911 said:
My girl, Pita
Pita? As in "His_Pita"?

Your av + my brain = me reading you as female all this time.


And the funny thing is that I recently stood up for both Pita and the "you" I thought I knew, in addressing the "ST you" on another thread!

Obviously I misunderstood either an old conversation or the more recent post. It doesn't matter, but it really is making me laugh! (At the situation, of course, not you.)
 
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