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Miss Diva

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We know that submiision is a gift and most of us feel that we have to click with a potential PYL.

Ok now we need the point of view of the PYL. Can you successfully Dom anyone or must there be a connection also.

Will you Dom anyone who asks or do you need the connection.

thanks

Miss Diva
 
Miss Diva said:
We know that submiision is a gift and most of us feel that we have to click with a potential PYL.

Ok now we need the point of view of the PYL. Can you successfully Dom anyone or must there be a connection also.

Will you Dom anyone who asks or do you need the connection.

thanks

Miss Diva

I think you can successfully top anyone who is willing, at say, a play party, but that isn't the same as the full connection Dom-ing that most of us seem to be looking for. There is a huge difference between, oh that looks fun, I want to try that to, will you do me and submission IMO.

I'm not expert but that's my first thoughts off the top of my head.

Fury :rose:
 
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You can successfully Dom anyone who wants to be Dommed. But I'm happy to have found a connection.
 
Miss Diva said:
We know that submiision is a gift and most of us feel that we have to click with a potential PYL.

Ok now we need the point of view of the PYL. Can you successfully Dom anyone or must there be a connection also.

Will you Dom anyone who asks or do you need the connection.

thanks

Miss Diva
I am a sadist. 24/7/365. In my heart and soul I love to inflict pain on others.

I am a Top. I will be the active party in a scene and inflict pain on just about anyone who is willing to have me do so. I am quite happy with negotiations that consist of:
Me - "What do you want done?"
them - "Cane me!"
Me - "Any places I can't hit you, do you want lasting marks, visible marks?"
them - "No"
Me - "Okay, fine up against the cross!"

I am a Dominant. And as such, I am willing to accept the surrender of power from another human being, and I accept the RESPONSIBILITY that goes with the acceptance and exercise of that power. I do not accept responsibility for other human being willy-nilly. If someone wishes to submit to my authority and control, it will be discussed thoroughly and well. I will know what they expect to get out of it, and what they expect to be able to put into it. They will know what MY expectations and requirements are as well.

And submission is a gift? *coughs* I've shared my thoughts on that particular line of romantic/fantasy/wishful thinking elsewhere and won't hijack this thread with a rant on that topic...
 
I'll add my 2¢ to the thread...

I think it's better when there's a connection.



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Miss Diva said:
We know that submiision is a gift and most of us feel that we have to click with a potential PYL.

Ok now we need the point of view of the PYL. Can you successfully Dom anyone or must there be a connection also.

Will you Dom anyone who asks or do you need the connection.

thanks

Miss Diva

For me there needs to be some type of connection. I have tunred partners into subs, all that was required was opening their minds and letting their feelings free, letting them know that it was okay to feel that way and this is not abnormal.

There is the fear they initially have, especially regarding trust, but porovided you never abuse that the have all rpaidly progressed.

I enjoy the titllation of internet Dom(me)/sub intercation. I have had some interesting episodes. It has progressed further with a couple as I travel a bit with my job. I also, once comfortable with a person, and her with me, open up more on a webcam.

Would I pull the Dom supremeacy for the hell of it...no.
 
lands concorde........

Evil_Geoff said:
And submission is a gift? *coughs* I've shared my thoughts on that particular line of romantic/fantasy/wishful thinking elsewhere and won't hijack this thread with a rant on that topic...
Prepared to give my 'gift' back , can I like trade it for stock in Blue Chip Mr Sadist puhlease. While I have no desire to top it would be just dandy to be in front once in a while.............:smiles:
 
I say, for what it's worth, to each his own. As for me, there MUST be an emotional/psychological connection, for this to work. Domination strictly for pains purpose, to me... "them's fighting words" and I'd not enjoy it at all. Isn't it cool that we're all different, with diff. tastes and desires and such? That's what makes the world go round.
 
Miss Diva said:
Ok now we need the point of view of the PYL. Can you successfully Dom anyone or must there be a connection also.

Will you Dom anyone who asks or do you need the connection.
Effective D/s takes time and effort. I have no interest in wasting either on someone with whom I feel no meaningful connection.

Further, even with a meaningful connection, I have neither the skills nor the inclination to effectively dominate a submissive whose needs and desires are poorly matched with my own.

Therefore, on the basis of both interest and ability, my answer to your question is no. I could not "successfully Dom anyone". Far from it.


Evil_Geoff said:
And submission is a gift? *coughs*
I always LOL at that phrase for many reasons - not least of which is the fact that it reminds me of a complete schmuck I knew in college.

When wasted, he used to walk up behind women and whisper in their ear: "I've got a present for you, baby..."
 
Evil_Geoff said:
And submission is a gift? *coughs* I've shared my thoughts on that particular line of romantic/fantasy/wishful thinking elsewhere and won't hijack this thread with a rant on that topic...


LOL, and here I was feeling guilty (well I tried to feel guilty but wasn't too successful) :eek: for expressing my own thoughts on not seeing submission as a gift which apparently upset more than a few subs. :p

Catalina :catroar:
 
I made a vocation of "Domming anyone" for a while. I can. It's exhausting and I can't do it indefinitely. Would I rather "Dom" (is that a verb now?) my lovers and my intimates? Sure.

But...

One of the things that is really cool, however, is that we can make incredible and intense connections with people we hardly know with SM as the language. Everything boils down to time, effort and risk. Doing SM with people you don't know is heavier on the risk side, but can have a really lasting and wonderful upside to it. I think that really gets overlooked a lot.
 
catalina_francisco said:
LOL, and here I was feeling guilty (well I tried to feel guilty but wasn't too successful) :eek: for expressing my own thoughts on not seeing submission as a gift which apparently upset more than a few subs. :p

Catalina :catroar:

Lol. Well, I'm guilty of having said this, but I can see how it makes people roll their eyes. I think it was a helpful phrase when I first discovered D/s, to remind myself that I probably shouldn't run out and do anything drastic.

Funny, it sounds like the whole "your virginity is a gift" line, and I always laughed at the girls who believed that one!
 
JMohegan said:
I always LOL at that phrase for many reasons - not least of which is the fact that it reminds me of a complete schmuck I knew in college.

When wasted, he used to walk up behind women and whisper in their ear: "I've got a present for you, baby..."

Huh, speaking of presents...I have always had a thing for bows on my underwear. One day, my boyfriend at the time said, what's with the bows? Do you think your pussy is some kind of gift?

Hell yes! I'm just kidding...sort of. :p
 
LOL!

And here, I'd think losing your virginity would be more of a gift to yourself, provided it was your decision.

Fury :rose:
 
FurryFury said:
LOL!

And here, I'd think losing your virginity would be more of a gift to yourself, provided it was your decision.

Fury :rose:


It was for me. I lost mine on my 16th birthday. :D :p

course, that's when he lost his too, so maybe it was a joint gift.
 
the captians wench said:
It was for me. I lost mine on my 16th birthday. :D :p

course, that's when he lost his too, so maybe it was a joint gift.

I suppose that depends on how good he was. :catroar:
 
That's why I wanted someone very experienced and Latin for my first time. Too bad that didn't happen. *sigh*

Fury :rose:
 
intothewoods said:
I suppose that depends on how good he was. :catroar:

Was the best I had ever had at the time. :p

Of course he had a lot of advantages with me since I had never fantasized or masterbated until he encouraged me to do so, so I didn't even have an idea of how I hoped things would go.
 
FurryFury said:
That's why I wanted someone very experienced and Latin for my first time. Too bad that didn't happen. *sigh*

Fury :rose:

Hell, I'll take someone very experienced and Latin for my...er...<counting> lemme get back to you.
 
the captians wench said:
Was the best I had ever had at the time. :p

Of course he had a lot of advantages with me since I had never fantasized or masterbated until he encouraged me to do so, so I didn't even have an idea of how I hoped things would go.

Me too! Well, except the fantasies. My first boyfriend was pretty bad, but he was an amazing kisser. Mmmmmm....I gotta go...
 
intothewoods said:
Hell, I'll take someone very experienced and Latin for my...er...<counting> lemme get back to you.

LOL!

I had been masturbating forever!

But the men in my dreams never had a face until I really fucked. I was surprised at how accurate the sensation of fucking in my dreams was to the RL sensation.

Damn I was good!

:D

Fury :rose:
 
intothewoods said:
Lol. Well, I'm guilty of having said this, but I can see how it makes people roll their eyes. I think it was a helpful phrase when I first discovered D/s, to remind myself that I probably shouldn't run out and do anything drastic.

Funny, it sounds like the whole "your virginity is a gift" line, and I always laughed at the girls who believed that one!

Oh well I don't go as far as rolling my eyes because we all start out thinking it is something ultra special, then we meet the one who teaches us that though it may very well be, it isn't a gift so much as a mutual satisfaction of needs, hopefully...and what is expected. :cathappy:

Catalina :catroar:
 
catalina_francisco said:
Oh well I don't go as far as rolling my eyes because we all start out thinking it is something ultra special, then we meet the one who teaches us that though it may very well be, it isn't a gift so much as a mutual satisfaction of needs, hopefully...and what is expected. :cathappy:

Catalina :catroar:

Cat you have known me just long enough to know this is said with some sincerity. When submission isn't optional to your psyche it can also be a Hellish burden.
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Cat you have known me just long enough to know this is said with some sincerity. When submission isn't optional to your psyche it can also be a Hellish burden.

Oh so true.

Catalina :catroar:
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
Cat you have known me just long enough to know this is said with some sincerity. When submission isn't optional to your psyche it can also be a Hellish burden.

Yes, I know a bit about that too. :eek:
 
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