DOJ sues navarro for using swiss non-official email account to retain Presidential records

[butters]

"The lawsuit in federal court in Washington claims Navarro used at least one 'non-official' email account — a ProtonMail account — to send and receive emails," the Associated Press reported.

ProtonMail is based in Switzerland.

"This means all user data is protected by strict Swiss privacy laws,"

"Mr. Navarro is wrongfully retaining Presidential records that are the property of the United States, and which constitute part of the permanent historical record of the prior administration," the DOJ lawsuit argues.

https://www.rawstory.com/doj-peter-navarro/

wonder how many others have been using that email provider and hiding out some material that got 'accidentally scrubbed'....

 

[LittleDixie]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Tuesday maintained her private email system and server she used as the nation’s top diplomat was “legally permitted” while pleading ignorance about some of the machinations behind the set-up.

She was asked repeatedly after an appearance in Nevada if she tried to wipe the server.


“I don’t — I have no idea, that’s why we turned it over,” Mrs. Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential front-runner, told reporters. “What, like with a cloth or something? … I don’t know how it works digitally at all.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/19/hillary-clinton-wiping-email-server-cloth-or-somet/

 

[butters]

but but but hillllarrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....

do you mean to say the republicans didn't learn not to repeat her mistakes after their hounding on about them for year after year?

sure....

like most republicans, when they accuse someone of something nefarious we should look at their own dealings

 

[LittleDixie]

I'm saying that Republicans and Democrats are the same breed of authoritarians who don't ever think that they should be held accountable for their mistakes.

Both just want power. Neither think that the rules apply to them.

 

[Chobham]

And exactly how do they know that "presidential records" are retained on those servers?

 

[ChloeTzang]

Well, we all know the rules never applied to Killary. We have one set of rules for Republicans, and a completely different set of rules for Democrats. The DoJ and the FBI both need to be completely shut down, and every single employee in both terminated. They've been politicized and corrupted to the extent that they're not redeemable.

https://thehill.com/opinion/crimina...-stunning-inability-to-prosecute-its-own-bad/

 

[RobDownSouth]

I see the "Buttery Males!" Bellowers are out tonight.

 

[KeithD]

Well, we all know the rules never applied to Killary. We have one set of rules for Republicans, and a completely different set of rules for Democrats.

Going to pretend you weren't around for the Republicans' years-long pursuit of Hillary on her e-mails? Surely you're brighter than that.

 

[butters]

I see the "Buttery Males!" Bellowers are out tonight.

stick 'em on ignore and the e-world's a cleaner place

 

[LukSkyFokker]

but but but hillllarrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....

do you mean to say the republicans didn't learn not to repeat her mistakes after their hounding on about them for year after year?

sure....

like most republicans, when they accuse someone of something nefarious we should look at their own dealings

He went from zero to HILLLLLLLAAAARRRRYYYY!!!!! in literally less than 2 minutes. For him to justify his partisanship by saying, "both sides..." is just more typical bullshit from the Christian White Nationalist party.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Going to pretend you weren't around for the Republicans' years-long pursuit of Hillary on her e-mails? Surely you're brighter than that.

Nah, GOP are useless at stuff like this. No balls, and the DOJ is useless when its not Republicans being chased down. You can get your life if it'd been Trump with that Server, they'd have been al over him like a rash. I mean look at the whole Russian setup farce. Heads should have rolled and people should have been in jail for that, and..... crickets. Nope, the DOJ and the FBI need to be just shut down, completely, forever. They're beyond reform. They're a threat now, there's nothing useful whatsoever about them. The new Stazi or NKVD.

 

[KeithD]

Nah, GOP are useless at stuff like this.

The Republicans WERE all over Hillary on her e-mails. For years. We were all watching, Chloe. You can't rewrite that history.

Mind you, I think all of them erasing their e-mails from January 2021 was their best option. They all were guilty of being coconspirators to a coup attempt. I think we should just accept that's why they did it and dump them all in the slammer.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I’m a Republican. I thought Hillary’s use of a private server for government business was inexcusable and beyond stupid. If Navarro did not use government servers and email systems, same applies him.

Question: What is the DOJ asking for in its suit? I assume they want access to all emails during his period of employment. What else?

 

[KeithD]

Hillary's server was more secure than the State Department's was--and she asked for an uncompromised server from the NSA and they turned her down. That said, yes, she should have just not done business until they cleaned that act up.

But, also that said, what Hillary did with e-mails pales in the face of what those in the Trump administration, including Trump himself and his two nepotism appointees, did for the entire time they were in office. And THAT pales in the face of the treatment of e-mails by the Trumpers since the 6 January coup attempt.

And all of THAT pales in the face of the Republican hypocrisy in its approach to Hillary's e-mails (not to mention Collin Powell, who did the same thing before her) in contrast to its approach to Trump and other Republicans.

Just a bunch of Swiftboating hypocrites (including the board Trumpettes).

Perhaps the most important point, however, is that Hillary's e-mail mess didn't compromise anything and Trump's e-mail mess was to cover up that the FUCKING MAN WAS TRYING TO ORCHESTRATE THE OVERTHROW OF THE LEGTIMATELY ELECTED UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

 

[ll74]

Say what you want about that lizard Navarro, he picked the most secure platform in the world.

Everything is encrypted in and out of Protinmail and fully secured in Switzerland, which has the best data privacy laws in the world.

It’s military grade.

And even if someone got your ip address with a court order, good luck getting the milspec encrypted data from the Swiss off their servers.

Yes, he broke the law using swiss technology

 

[ll74]

Or, he’s a true Patriot for preserving records that otherwise would be erased by corrupt Washington minions.

You’re here tilting at windmills all day, so you probably don’t watch the News.

Butters regurgitated headline threads about erased government records will give you a watered down version for litdummies.

Following established procedure is part of the law. Whether you like that he broke it, for whatever reason, is your own issue.

As is your obsession with butters.

 

[ll74]

Which law? The Law of Etiquette?

Ha ha ha!

The actual federal law requiring retention of records. You're an idiot

 

[ll74]

Sounds like the records have been retained in the safest way possible.

Heavy flow day, Ill?

Got it.....so odd that the DoJ seems to disagree with you. Maybe they just don't know the law as well as you do.

 

[ll74]

That’s the nature of a legal dispute, little boi.

It’s a civil lawsuit, get back to me in a few years when it’s resolved!

Got it. Good luck with your expectations.

He "did not copy each email or message constituting Presidential records that was sent or received on his non-official account or accounts to his official government email account," the lawsuit said. When the National Archives contacted Navarro after Trump left office to obtain the records that he hadn't copied to his government account, Navarro did not respond, the complaint continued.

https://www.businessinsider.com/doj...ngfully-retaining-presidential-records-2022-8

 

[ll74]

In Canada, the government maintains its own records.

You Americans must have sloppy IT.

It's good that you have taken the time to understand the case you're commenting on

 

[jaF0]

I have ProtonMail.

I do not have a GovMandate for records.

 

[Rightguide]

https://www.rawstory.com/doj-peter-navarro/

wonder how many others have been using that email provider and hiding out some material that got 'accidentally scrubbed'....

The question should be, how do they know there are presidential documents stored in that account? Have they already hacked the account in violation of Swiss law? Think about it.

 

[ll74]

The question should be, how do they know there are presidential documents stored in that account? Have they already hacked the account in violation of Swiss law? Think about it.

He told them.

 

[Rightguide]

Perhaps the most important point, however, is that Hillary's e-mail mess didn't compromise anything and Trump's e-mail mess was to cover up that the FUCKING MAN WAS TRYING TO ORCHESTRATE THE OVERTHROW OF THE LEGTIMATELY ELECTED UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

Perhaps as usual, you're just high again.

 

[Rightguide]

Does the DOJ prefer worms or tied flies for fishing?

I think they use a super trawler and cast a wide net.