Does the plea of 5th Amendment...

[lobito]

equal admission of guilt, in YOUR mind, as far as the whole Enron CRAP goes?

The former head of Enron testified before The Senate today, just long enough to say he felt sorry for the investors, and say, I ain't talking no more.

I don't know if they are guilty, but by all the NON talk, they aren't making themselves look very good, in MY eyes. A LOT of people got fucked over by Enron, while a LOT of people walked away rich apparently.

Lo

 

[BigDawg69]

I gotta agree with you Lobito. It sure does give the appearance of guilt, the whole "I will not say anything on the grounds that I may incriminate myself," certainly leads to the easy deduction of incrimination!

 

[Spinaroonie]

Yes, in my mind and unfortunately everybody else's. While it is an attempt at innocence, it's not saying anything because you can be incriminated. So basically it's an admission w/o confession.

 

[Tim1]

Yup

I'm with you Lobito, If you had nothing to hide you'd talk all day.
Those that take the 5th are doing so becaue they have something to hide. I hope the ones that took advantage and made money at the top pay the price of going to prison for a very long time.

 

[carrie-on]

equal admission of guilt, in YOUR mind, as far as the whole Enron CRAP goes?


Lo

Yes!! He had to have known something or he wouldn't have sold all his stock months ago for MILLIONS of dollars.

 

[April]

It makes me think that there is something going on there. Not necessarily guilty, but it doesn't look very ethical.

 

[bored1]

Your right it doesnt look good for these clowns,But why admit or say anything until your charged with something?I think there all crooked Republicans and Democrats combined as they all took money from Enron.Personally I would prefer they<Senators> would show the same fervor towards fixing Social Security that they show in attacking Enron.Our elected officials care nothing about the average people who work to make this country great.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------See the new boss,Same as the old boss-----------------------------

 

[android1966]

I'm a bit confused by this 5th amendment thing. If you stand up
and say "I refuse to say anything on the grounds that i may
incriminate myself" isn't that actually admitting you're guilty?

 

[Spinaroonie]

I'm a bit confused by this 5th amendment thing. If you stand up
and say "I refuse to say anything on the grounds that i may
incriminate myself" isn't that actually admitting you're guilty?

Well, it makes it so that you can refuse any question really. Like this:

"What's your favourite kind of Ice cream"
"I refuse under my 5th Amendment rights"

It works like that, but, it makes everybody look like they're guilty.

 

[lobito]

So then what happens to Sharon Watkins, the "whistle blower", who is supposed to testify before the Senate tomorrow?

I've got to eat dinner, but I'll be back to check afterwards.

Lo

 

[Weird Harold]

I'm a bit confused by this 5th amendment thing. If you stand up
and say "I refuse to say anything on the grounds that i may
incriminate myself" isn't that actually admitting you're guilty?

Not necessarily.

It could just as easily be saying, "I was doing something else illegal while I got the information you want and answering the question will open a whole different can of worms."

 

[morninggirl5]

Not necessarily.

It could just as easily be saying, "I was doing something else illegal while I got the information you want and answering the question will open a whole different can of worms."

WH, said it perfectly. They're admitting they're guilty of something. It may not be what you're asking about, but they're not answering anything. If they don't say anything at all, then they aren't helping you sort through the possibilities to find what they did do.

 

[Lasz]

The Enron execs are assholes.
That is the way to say it.

They are still living the highlife, they may not have jobs but I am sure they have enough money to live off of equity. While all there employees are suffering.

 

[privy2u]

I can't argue with any opinion stated so far. The reason is, reguardless if you are a suspect, or being questioned as a witness for the prosecusion your neck is on the line! You may be better off taking advantage of your fifth ammendment rights if you haven't been assured of full disclosure of fact so that you know what they are searching for and answer only questions pertaining to the original charges.

It doesn't mean your guilty in the eyes of justice to plea the 5th. It may in the eye's of the world though. The two primary questions for an innocent person are do you possibly have any answer that may incriminate you even though your are innocent, and, even though innocent would making that full testimony imply you knew far to much and ruin your standing in the community or even worse have a prosecutor file complicity charges against you so he can clear his desk.

It's a complicated question and not one that should be answered without legal council qualified in federal law!



privy

 

[ExLimey]

They are still living the highlife

Maybe all but one, he's livin' the six feet under life.


Does anyone else see it as a little odd that all these people acting all self-righteous are the same ones who pass a budget that includes $18000 toilet seats for the Air Force and $2000 hammers for NASA?


I wouldn't mind seeing one of these Enron guys read a list of all the politicians that took money from them into The Record! Wonder how many bangs of the gavel and "you're out of order"s that would generate