Does anyone here like Greeks and feels sympathy for them?

I am Greek and I was wondering what people feel about us nowadays.

I feel sorry for an entire nation of people going through tough economic times. I think it's a foolishly set up system to expect the government to pay for so much stuff and have people retire so early.
 
I am sympathetic to the Greek people, but angry with their politicians (for decades) who have lied, lied and lied again to Europe, to their creditors, and most of all to the Greek people.

The problem that the Euro zone faces with Greek governments is that no one trusts anything they say. They tell Europe's leaders one thing, and the Greek people something different. Not just Europe's leaders, but the people of other countries in the Eurozone, are getting annoyed with the Greek government.

The Greeks have been poorly served by their governments for most of my long lifetime but only now is the shit really hitting the fan.

From a distance I can't see any Greek politicians who could run a piss-up in a brewery, let alone a national economy.
 
it is the Greek "people" that rob and cheat themselves

THEY ARE TOO BLAME
 
I am sympathetic to the Greek people, but angry with their politicians (for decades) who have lied, lied and lied again to Europe, to their creditors, and most of all to the Greek people.

The problem that the Euro zone faces with Greek governments is that no one trusts anything they say. They tell Europe's leaders one thing, and the Greek people something different. Not just Europe's leaders, but the people of other countries in the Eurozone, are getting annoyed with the Greek government.

The Greeks have been poorly served by their governments for most of my long lifetime but only now is the shit really hitting the fan.

From a distance I can't see any Greek politicians who could run a piss-up in a brewery, let alone a national economy.

Someone who talks sense, finally.
But it's not only the Greek govt.; a lot of politicians from Eu (particularly S Eu) are like that - incompetent and bought by the big bankers and the IMF mafia. It's just that the Greek govt. pulled some maneuvers that made them more visible.
 
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Someone who talks sense, finally.
But it's not only the Greek govt.; a lot of politicians from Eu (particularly S Eu) are like that - incompetent and bought by the big bankers and the IMF mafia. It's just that the Greek govt. pulled some maneuvers that made them more visible.

Yeah, they aren't good at hiding their true identities, eh?
 
EVERYTHING that is wrong with Greece is embodied by the Oh Pee poster

A few days ago, she was gloating how, and she used the words, WE, fucked the world by not paying, how WE are so great and have a great heritage etc

I then asked, who will pay for YOUR FOOD etc etc, she said, well SHE deserves AID and SHE didnt particiapate in the bad deal

FUCK EM

LET EM STARVE
 
Yeah, they aren't good at hiding their true identities, eh?


My understanding is (from my dad's "politics") that IMF have a sneaky way of dealing with countries who are struggling financially.
- They offer a loan, and since they are the only available lender, they also impose all these self-defeating conditions.
For example- we will give you money If you put the xx factories out of business and other 'austerity measures.
- They say that they're only putting these conditions because they want to ensure that they get their money back. In reality, they are invested in putting the xxfactory out of business, since it competes with their own factries and interests.
- And of course, the corrupt politicians of the strughling country accept those bankrupting conditions - either because they get a small chunk of the pie, or because they want to look good for yhrir temporary mandate.



((Please, Oggbashan, help me with this argument - my economics are v.v. shaky I'm better with theory- the ideological stuff))
 
My understanding is (from my dad's "politics") that IMF have a sneaky way of dealing with countries who are struggling financially.
- They offer a loan, and since they are the only available lender, they also impose all these self-defeating conditions.
For example- we will give you money If you put the xx factories out of business and other 'austerity measures.
- They say that they're only putting these conditions because they want to ensure that they get their money back. In reality, they are invested in putting the xxfactory out of business, since it competes with their own factries and interests.
- And of course, the corrupt politicians of the strughling country accept those bankrupting conditions - either because they get a small chunk of the pie, or because they want to look good for yhrir temporary mandate.



((Please, Oggbashan, help me with this argument - my economics are v.v. shaky I'm better with theory- the ideological stuff))

Then don't borrow the money, shit for brains.

40 years ago a small business admin speaker advised all of us to borrow money from the mafia rather than banks because the mafia hurts you really bad one time if you cant pay the money back.
 
Then don't borrow the money, shit for brains.

40 years ago a small business admin speaker advised all of us to borrow money from the mafia rather than banks because the mafia hurts you really bad one time if you cant pay the money back.

lmao…
 
I like the Greek people and their country....beautiful place and people.

No sympathy though.

To be fair I won't have any sympathy for America either.
 
My understanding is (from my dad's "politics") that IMF have a sneaky way of dealing with countries who are struggling financially.
- They offer a loan, and since they are the only available lender, they also impose all these self-defeating conditions.
For example- we will give you money If you put the xx factories out of business and other 'austerity measures.
- They say that they're only putting these conditions because they want to ensure that they get their money back. In reality, they are invested in putting the xxfactory out of business, since it competes with their own factries and interests.
- And of course, the corrupt politicians of the strughling country accept those bankrupting conditions - either because they get a small chunk of the pie, or because they want to look good for yhrir temporary mandate.



((Please, Oggbashan, help me with this argument - my economics are v.v. shaky I'm better with theory- the ideological stuff))
I agree with you, thanks for making this point.
 
I love Greece and have a huge respect for its country, its history, and its people. It should never have given up control of its currency, of course, but that looks as though it will eventually resolve itself anyway.

Some of the very best times of my life were in Greece, and it will always have a warm place in my heart for that reason.
 
Then don't borrow the money, shit for brains.

40 years ago a small business admin speaker advised all of us to borrow money from the mafia rather than banks because the mafia hurts you really bad one time if you cant pay the money back.

But WE did not borrow the money. The corrupt politicians did. Can you honestly tell me that a 10 year old Greek who is going to be homeless and hungry if both parents lose their job and one commits suicide must suffer because he borrowed the money? He was not even born then. This is insane!
 

just a heads-up (my perspective):
Many GBers do the trolling stuff from time to time on GB, but JamesBJohnson, BusyBody and Eyer hold a diploma in trolling. Many of their posts are v.v. bad homophobic/racist etc. but GBers tend to ignore those.
Unfortunately, they also have a good sense of humour and some of their posts (the ones that are not targeted) are v. funny and some people like to respond because of that
 
But WE did not borrow the money. The corrupt politicians did. Can you honestly tell me that a 10 year old Greek who is going to be homeless and hungry if both parents lose their job and one commits suicide must suffer because he borrowed the money? He was not even born then. This is insane!

YOU elected the Socialist. Live with the consequences.
 
But WE did not borrow the money. The corrupt politicians did. Can you honestly tell me that a 10 year old Greek who is going to be homeless and hungry if both parents lose their job and one commits suicide must suffer because he borrowed the money? He was not even born then. This is insane!

This is INSANITY!

For this alone YOUR CUNTRY deserves all teh ills it has
 
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