Do you think this theory wrong?

[little_jane]

Hello, I am little_jane. I've not yet did my intro in the new people list but I will. Ok I have to ask something here to make sure that I am on track or off. I once had a friend/love relationship with a gent and we discussed alot of things. Yet it was not until we had broke apart and years went by that when I mentioned my interest in Dom/sub relations that he admitted he had been involved in the life style for several years. ( SHocker that!). Well anyhow after I had managed to clean myself up, and get a grip on my raging hormones and settled into an in depth discussion. That I had realized that my interest had far surpassed the sexual aspect. Previously all I could think about was being forced into submission and spanked. Alone I continued for days and weeks to read and think about the situation. THIS is what I came uo with.
In a Dom/sub relationship I guess I will elaborate again.. In a healthy, serious one. It is a relationship which is practically the most biblical in sense that you can get. Not only that, it is a win win situation for both Dom and sub.
If you are curious as to how I came up with that please continue to read.
I am not a religious fanatic or anything, but I am a christian. So anyway. God says women are to submit unto their husbands, which a sub does. Men cherish your wives, which a Dom does. So if you are both doing this, then therefore you are striving to meet one anothers needs, and doing it to better one another. Therefore it is also a win won situation. My thought process an all is alot more thought out and longer but the is pretty much it in a nut shell.

As a vanila seeking out of vanilla world is this unrealistic and naive? I'd love to hear what those of you have to say about this, and is this childish idealism?
Thanks
little_jane

 

[CutieMouse]

There's an entire subset of BDSM that operates on that level called Domestic Discipline, so you aren't alone in your thought process, at least.

 

[little_jane]

Hi I ganced at suggested link, Did not realize that there was a catagory for that. I would definately say that I have alot more in my head as to what I would want as sub, but that seems to be a good foundation. Wish men would practice spankins in all forms of marriage though *Grins*

 

[CutieMouse]

Hi I ganced at suggested link, Did not realize that there was a catagory for that. I would definately say that I have alot more in my head as to what I would want as sub, but that seems to be a good foundation. Wish men would practice spankins in all forms of marriage though *Grins*

I have no clue if DD would meet your needs or not, but from your initial post it seemed an appropriate "genre" of D/s to mention... there's a hell of a lot of information out there, and no one way is necessarily proper, or right, or true. Sometimes people's views shift and change as they make the journey, as well.

 

[SweetErika]

Hello, I am little_jane. I've not yet did my intro in the new people list but I will. Ok I have to ask something here to make sure that I am on track or off. I once had a friend/love relationship with a gent and we discussed alot of things. Yet it was not until we had broke apart and years went by that when I mentioned my interest in Dom/sub relations that he admitted he had been involved in the life style for several years. ( SHocker that!). Well anyhow after I had managed to clean myself up, and get a grip on my raging hormones and settled into an in depth discussion. That I had realized that my interest had far surpassed the sexual aspect. Previously all I could think about was being forced into submission and spanked. Alone I continued for days and weeks to read and think about the situation. THIS is what I came uo with.
In a Dom/sub relationship I guess I will elaborate again.. In a healthy, serious one. It is a relationship which is practically the most biblical in sense that you can get. Not only that, it is a win win situation for both Dom and sub.
If you are curious as to how I came up with that please continue to read.
I am not a religious fanatic or anything, but I am a christian. So anyway. God says women are to submit unto their husbands, which a sub does. Men cherish your wives, which a Dom does. So if you are both doing this, then therefore you are striving to meet one anothers needs, and doing it to better one another. Therefore it is also a win won situation. My thought process an all is alot more thought out and longer but the is pretty much it in a nut shell.

As a vanila seeking out of vanilla world is this unrealistic and naive? I'd love to hear what those of you have to say about this, and is this childish idealism?
Thanks
little_jane

I think if you feel you need justification, and the whole biblical line of justification works for you personally, then fine, go with it.

Where I run into problems is some people have a tendency to use this and other lines of reasoning to justify their own beliefs/choices and ways of being while degrading others' beliefs, choices, ways of being and lifestyles. For instance, I've heard some use the 'the Bible says women should submit to men, and I'm a female sub or male Dom, so that means I'm okay' line and then turn around and say the FemDom/male sub and other non-MDom/fsub dynamics are wrong/sick/stupid/unChristian/whatever.

To me, this kind of intolerance, judgment, and the hypocrisy that some people who use biblical passages like this as justification, display is pretty crappy and unchristian.

I'm not suggesting you're one of those people, just that you might want to consider the different sides in evaluating and deciding on what you believe. Being childish, naive, unrealistic, etc., to me is, in part, accepting things unquestioningly, not subjecting them to critical thinking and tough evaluation. Therefore, in this situation, I'd be asking myself questions like:
- Does the fact that the Bible says this one thing make me right or somehow better and others wrong or somehow worse?
- If I dig deep, what do I truly get out of knowing the Bible says women should be submissive to men?
- What if I happened to be a dominant woman, submissive male or switch, instead of a submissive female; how would I view this passage of the Bible and want to be viewed by others, especially people who believed in the passage?
- If I decide to use the Bible as justification for my submissiveness, how can I reconcile that with the other things the Bible says about accepting others, not judging, practicing the Golden Rule, etc.?
- If I justify with this passage, how might I feel if the Bible contradicts other things I like/want to try in the future?

 

[JMohegan]

Hello, I am little_jane. I've not yet did my intro in the new people list but I will. Ok I have to ask something here to make sure that I am on track or off. I once had a friend/love relationship with a gent and we discussed alot of things. Yet it was not until we had broke apart and years went by that when I mentioned my interest in Dom/sub relations that he admitted he had been involved in the life style for several years. ( SHocker that!). Well anyhow after I had managed to clean myself up, and get a grip on my raging hormones and settled into an in depth discussion. That I had realized that my interest had far surpassed the sexual aspect. Previously all I could think about was being forced into submission and spanked. Alone I continued for days and weeks to read and think about the situation. THIS is what I came uo with.
In a Dom/sub relationship I guess I will elaborate again.. In a healthy, serious one. It is a relationship which is practically the most biblical in sense that you can get. Not only that, it is a win win situation for both Dom and sub.
If you are curious as to how I came up with that please continue to read.
I am not a religious fanatic or anything, but I am a christian. So anyway. God says women are to submit unto their husbands, which a sub does. Men cherish your wives, which a Dom does. So if you are both doing this, then therefore you are striving to meet one anothers needs, and doing it to better one another. Therefore it is also a win won situation. My thought process an all is alot more thought out and longer but the is pretty much it in a nut shell.

As a vanila seeking out of vanilla world is this unrealistic and naive? I'd love to hear what those of you have to say about this, and is this childish idealism?
Thanks
little_jane

If you really wanna get Biblical about it, your partner should sell your sexual services to the neighbors. You know, like Abraham, Sarah and Pharaoh.

Or maybe you can encourage him to turn M/s and take on a slave, a la Hagar. Of course, after she gets pregnant, that story tends to take a turn for the worse. So you might want to watch out for that.



Pardon my sarcasm, but selective quoting of a text, written thousands of years ago, in order to justify 21st century personal relations seems to me to be quite ridiculous. Not reflective of "childish idealism" so much as anachronistic delusion.

 

[Netzach]

Hello, I am little_jane. I've not yet did my intro in the new people list but I will. Ok I have to ask something here to make sure that I am on track or off. I once had a friend/love relationship with a gent and we discussed alot of things. Yet it was not until we had broke apart and years went by that when I mentioned my interest in Dom/sub relations that he admitted he had been involved in the life style for several years. ( SHocker that!). Well anyhow after I had managed to clean myself up, and get a grip on my raging hormones and settled into an in depth discussion. That I had realized that my interest had far surpassed the sexual aspect. Previously all I could think about was being forced into submission and spanked. Alone I continued for days and weeks to read and think about the situation. THIS is what I came uo with.
In a Dom/sub relationship I guess I will elaborate again.. In a healthy, serious one. It is a relationship which is practically the most biblical in sense that you can get. Not only that, it is a win win situation for both Dom and sub.
If you are curious as to how I came up with that please continue to read.
I am not a religious fanatic or anything, but I am a christian. So anyway. God says women are to submit unto their husbands, which a sub does. Men cherish your wives, which a Dom does. So if you are both doing this, then therefore you are striving to meet one anothers needs, and doing it to better one another. Therefore it is also a win won situation. My thought process an all is alot more thought out and longer but the is pretty much it in a nut shell.

As a vanila seeking out of vanilla world is this unrealistic and naive? I'd love to hear what those of you have to say about this, and is this childish idealism?
Thanks
little_jane

St. Paul says that.
Some of us don't think that's God speaking, the Bible part 1 purists.

 

[Netzach]

If you really wanna get Biblical about it, your partner should sell your sexual services to the neighbors. You know, like Abraham, Sarah and Pharaoh.

Or maybe you can encourage him to turn M/s and take on a slave, a la Hagar. Of course, after she gets pregnant, that story tends to take a turn for the worse. So you might want to watch out for that.



Pardon my sarcasm, but selective quoting of a text, written thousands of years ago, in order to justify 21st century personal relations seems to me to be quite ridiculous. Not reflective of "childish idealism" so much as anachronistic delusion.

The problem isn't the quote or belief, but the selectivity. For every Hagar or Yiftak's daughter in the OT, there's a Sarah, Deborah, Miriam or Esther - someone who has bigger fish to fry than submission to anyone but her maker.

Happily the Bible committee or God or whatever seems to want all of its children to feel justified in their existence, I think. Hence the contradictions.

 

[Etoile]

Sounds like the Taken In Hand group too. I believe ownedsubgal holds similar beliefs as well - perhaps not that it's biblical, but that it's "natural".

 

[CutieMouse]

Sounds like the Taken In Hand group too. I believe ownedsubgal holds similar beliefs as well - perhaps not that it's biblical, but that it's "natural".

Taken in Hand! That's the thingie I was thinking of that I couldn't remember!

 

[rosco rathbone]

Takeninhand rocks.

Here's another decent site: http://lovingdd.blogspot.com/2005/11/questions.html

 

[rosco rathbone]

There's an entire subset of BDSM that operates on that level called Domestic Discipline, so you aren't alone in your thought process, at least.

The hilarious thing is that they go waaaaaay out of their way to disavow any connection with BDSM. Getting tied in all kinds of knots trying to explain how their type of spanking isn't sexual.

I'm a takeninhand guy, but I keeps it real. BDSM was were I started.

 

[CutieMouse]

The hilarious thing is that they go waaaaaay out of their way to disavow any connection with BDSM. Getting tied in all kinds of knots trying to explain how their type of spanking isn't sexual.

I'm a takeninhand guy, but I keeps it real. BDSM was were I started.

Yes! "I set the rules and you WILL get your ass spanked as I see fit", while completely ignoring it makes her wet and him hard as a rock. It's a very egalitarian I'm-not-one-of-those-sick-f*cks sort of thing. Sociologically fascinating, actually...

(Hmm. Just remembered I'm supposed to be running a search for something...)