Do You know their names?

brazenblaze

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I got this in my email today and it got me to thinking....

"On 18 February 2001, while racing for fame and fortune, Dale Earnhardt died in the last lap of the Daytona 500. It was surely a tragedy for his family, friends and fans. He was 49 years old with grown children, one,which was in the race. I am new to the NASCAR culture, so much of what I know has come from the newspaper and TV.

He was a winner and earned everything he had. This included more than "$41 million in winnings and ten times that from endorsements and souvenir sales." He had a beautiful home and a private jet. He drove the most
sophisticated cars allowed and every part was inspected and replaced as soon as there was any evidence of wear. This is normally fully funded by the car and team sponsors.

Today, there is no TV station that does not constantly remind us of his tragic end and the radio already has a song of tribute to this winning driver. Nothing should be taken away from this man, he was a professional
and the best in his profession. He was in a very dangerous business but the rewards were great.

Two weeks ago, seven US Army soldiers died in a training accident when two UH-60 Blackhawk helicopters collided during night maneuvers in Hawaii. The soldiers were all in their twenties, pilots, crewchiefs and infantrymen.

Most of them lived in substandard housing. If you add their actual duty hours (in the field, deployed) they probably earn something close to minimum wage. The aircraft they were in were between 15 and 20 years
old.

Many times parts were not available to keep them in good shape due to funding. They were involved in the extremely dangerous business of flying in the Kuhuku Mountains at night. It only gets worse when the weather moves in as it did that night. Most times no one is there with a yellow or
red flag to slow things down when it gets critical. Their children were mostly toddlers who will lose all memory of who "Daddy" was as they grow up.

They died training to defend our freedom.

I take nothing away from Dale Earnhardt but ask you to perform this simple test. Ask any of your friends if they know who was the NASCAR driver killed on 18 February 2001. Then ask them if they can name one of the seven soldiers who died in Hawaii two weeks ago.

18 February 2001, Dale Earnhardt died driving for fame and glory at the Daytona 500. The nation mourns. Seven soldiers died training to protect our freedom. No one can remember their names."

Do YOU know there names?.....Well NOW you do:
CW4 GEORGE PERRY
CW2 GREGORY MONTGOMERY
SSG THOMAS BARBER
SGT BOB MACDONALD
MAJ ROBERT OLSON
SGT OLVERA-RODRIGUEZ

May God shine on the families of the fallen.
 
Bravo Brazen, I was wondering the same thing myself.

RIP
CW4 GEORGE PERRY
CW2 GREGORY MONTGOMERY
SSG THOMAS BARBER
SGT BOB MACDONALD
MAJ ROBERT OLSON
SGT OLVERA-RODRIGUEZ
 
lickerish said:
Bravo Brazen, I was wondering the same thing myself.

RIP
CW4 GEORGE PERRY
CW2 GREGORY MONTGOMERY
SSG THOMAS BARBER
SGT BOB MACDONALD
MAJ ROBERT OLSON
SGT OLVERA-RODRIGUEZ


7?



EZ
 
So it has been what, almost 4 weeks and the military can't find the family to tell them of the death? Do we find the enemy quicker than that in a war?

Sorry, don't mean to sound "grumpy" but I'm getting sick of seeing this same article all over the Internet and in my email inbasket over and over. I'll stick with my comments about it in the last thread that was posted about this same article.
http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=25408&pagenumber=1

[Edited by Cheyenne on 03-01-2001 at 10:41 PM]
 
I was going to let this go, really.

I have to ask, though -- now that we know their names, what else do we know that makes this worth bringing up, again and again? We know their names, but do we know them? Do we know their favorite colors? Their families? Do we know what brand of beer they liked, if they drank it? Favorite music? Favorite movies and TV shows?

What were their favorite sports? What did they read, or talk about? What were their dreams?

In short, as people, we don't know them at all.

I truly am sorry that they died in a tragic accident. But I am a little tired of the use of this as a moral cudgel. I didn't know them; I can't mourn their deaths.

Let it go.
 
My humble apology

Cheyenne said:
So it has been what, almost 4 weeks and the military can't find the family to tell them of the death? Do we find the enemy quicker than that in a war?

Sorry, don't mean to sound "grumpy" but I'm getting sick of seeing this same article all over the Internet and in my email inbasket over and over. I'll stick with my comments about it in the last thread that was posted about this same article.
http://www.literotica.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=25408&pagenumber=1

[Edited by Cheyenne on 03-01-2001 at 10:41 PM]

I had not read that thread or even gave it a second glance...didn't mean to jump into a heated discussion...just thought it was interesting.

Flame away!
 
brazenblaze said:
18 February 2001, Dale Earnhardt died driving for fame and glory at the Daytona 500. The nation mourns. Seven soldiers died training to protect our freedom. No one can remember their names."

Just came across this thread (and had a look at Cheyenne's link to the other one about the same article). Thought I'd add a different angle on the subject for consideration [Please note I am not American, but empathise with the concerns raised]:

Whatever our thoughts on the matter, every nation has its 'hero figures'. The role of 'the media' plays a significant part in elevating achievers in various fields to cult status. Although the death of the soldiers received scant attention in comparison to that of a racing driver, it is worth pointing out that the seemingly endless amount of choice with regard to leisure / sport pursuits (whether as spectator or participator) is itself a freedom, and / or indeed an active declaration of freedom. The celebration of Earnhardt's life, and mourning of his passing, could then be read in a positive light; it is a celebration of a whole way of life, an expression of national pride, and a mourning of the loss of someone who encapsulated the whole idea of the 'American Dream'. Those who 'entertain' us in the world of sport, who capture the public imagination, vicariously fill our lives with thrills as they take part in dangerous activities - while we watch from the relative safety of our homes, or the arena itself. I'm in agreement with those who say that this subject is a non-argument and I don't think it's morally prudent to make comparisons in this case. Earnhardt died living out the life of a 'hero figure'. Perhaps it would be wiser to celebrate our freedoms while we have them, and acknowledge an apparent majority (national) display of grief, than to question that grief on the grounds of an imagined threat? Many other nations no doubt suffer military casualities during 'peace time' training, not so many of them will have the freedom to elect hero figures. There's a far bigger picture beyond the issue of the whys and wherefores of media representation. 'United we stand, divided we fall', as the saying goes. I find it admirable that such loss was felt by so many at the loss of one man. As has been said, we can't mourn everyone; Earnhardt appears to have eclipsed his own death, providing an outlet for a nation's grief which I would suggest goes deeper than a mourning for him alone ...
 
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