Do You Ever Feel Guilty Because What You Have is So Good

lavender

Cautiously Optimistic
Joined
Apr 6, 2001
Posts
25,108
I know this is probably a weird way to phrase this question - but I was just thinking about this as I smoked a cigarette out on the calm balcony with trees lightly moving in a warm breeze.

Things here seemed so peaceful, so normal, so different from what people in other parts of the world - and even on our own continent face. At times like these, a twinge of guilt crosses over me. Nothing, more than birth, has separated me from these people - for the most part. I just happened to luck out and be born in a more developed society. I just happened to not be born into a war-torn nation. I just happened to be born in a free society. I just happened to be born to parents who were wonderful and provided me a comfortable, financially stable, and loving household. I just happened to have things fall into place for me.

When I think of the people in Iraq who have had to live under Hussein's power. When I think of the fact that on NPR they were talking about the fatalistic nature of the people - because they just think it's another, in a long line of wars, I can't help but feel that guilt. I mean people were literally asserting that why not keep things as normal - for them, war, violence, is the norm.

Then I think of our young troops - those young, young men and women - enlisted. They are fighting - experiencing brutality, fear and demonstrating courage I doubt they knew they were capable of.

When I think of areas such as Angola, Tibet, The Congo, North Korea, so many deprived peoples, a feeling of guilt does engulf me momentarily.

I know guilt isn't really the appropriate feeling to have. Trust me, I am so glad, and understand how blessed I am, to have a stable nation and a stable family.

Sometimes we take for granted these things we have. We moan and groan about our inadequacies, the unfair nature of life, and other little insignificant things - that seem so very significant (and sometimes they are).

Ok, I think I'm done rambling.
 
Classic

lavender said:
I know this is probably a weird way to phrase this question - but I was just thinking about this as I smoked a cigarette out on the calm balcony with trees lightly moving in a warm breeze.

Things here seemed so peaceful, so normal, so different from what people in other parts of the world - and even on our own continent face. At times like these, a twinge of guilt crosses over me. Nothing, more than birth, has separated me from these people - for the most part. I just happened to luck out and be born in a more developed society. I just happened to not be born into a war-torn nation. I just happened to be born in a free society. I just happened to be born to parents who were wonderful and provided me a comfortable, financially stable, and loving household. I just happened to have things fall into place for me.

When I think of the people in Iraq who have had to live under Hussein's power. When I think of the fact that on NPR they were talking about the fatalistic nature of the people - because they just think it's another, in a long line of wars, I can't help but feel that guilt. I mean people were literally asserting that why not keep things as normal - for them, war, violence, is the norm.

Then I think of our young troops - those young, young men and women - enlisted. They are fighting - experiencing brutality, fear and demonstrating courage I doubt they knew they were capable of.

When I think of areas such as Angola, Tibet, The Congo, North Korea, so many deprived peoples, a feeling of guilt does engulf me momentarily.

I know guilt isn't really the appropriate feeling to have. Trust me, I am so glad, and understand how blessed I am, to have a stable nation and a stable family.

Sometimes we take for granted these things we have. We moan and groan about our inadequacies, the unfair nature of life, and other little insignificant things - that seem so very significant (and sometimes they are).

Ok, I think I'm done rambling.

Classic example of middle-class white liberal guilt.
 
Nothing wrong with a little guilt,

If you don't have any guilt, you're either a saint or an asshole...
 
Re: Classic

REDWAVE said:
Classic example of middle-class white liberal guilt.

OK then flip it for yourself....I could be in the hold of a ship, awaiting to be sold into bondage.....
 
PH & BAC

badasschick said:
OK then flip it for yourself....I could be in the hold of a ship, awaiting to be sold into bondage.....

My point was that I have experienced genuine adversity in my life (and overcome it, for the most part), and if lavender wants to stop feeling guilty for a while, she could live in, say, South Central LA, for a while.

I doubt if she'd still support the war after that experience.

PH-- I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with guilt.
 
What??? I'm shocked! You were SMOKING??? I thought you quit??? :eek:
 
Re: PH & BAC

REDWAVE said:
My point was that I have experienced genuine adversity in my life (and overcome it, for the most part), and if lavender wants to stop feeling guilty for a while, she could live in, say, South Central LA, for a while.

Or, you could live in, say, the Congo for a while, and wonder how you ever felt so sanctimonius about only being shot at once a week in South Central LA.
 
Purple Haze said:
Gas prices are going up...

Going down here. Paid $1.53/ gallon today after paying a high of $1.74 about, oh, 2 1/2 weeks ago.

You know, Lavy, I've had thoughts about the War strike me here and there, and it seems odd to be sitting here "at war" and it's really not having a single effect on my everyday life. The amount of TV I watched surged for a few days, but otherwise nothing.

It makes you wonder if things like this should be this easy.

I find it impossible to even contemplate what the people of Iraq and the soldiers doing the fighting are going thru. Unless you've been in that situation I just can't imagine that you could.
 
Re: PH & BAC

REDWAVE said:


PH-- I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with guilt.


You should feel guilty as hell for subjecting us all to that nasty-ass avatar for as long as you have. I've seen prettier dog-barf carpet stains.
 
I've never felt Guilty, but I hear she's pretty hot so it's a nice thought...
 
Re: Re: PH & BAC

WaxNWane said:
Or, you could live in, say, the Congo for a while, and wonder how you ever felt so sanctimonius about only being shot at once a week in South Central LA.


lol...it's all relative.
 
Re: PH & BAC

REDWAVE said:
My point was that I have experienced genuine adversity in my life (and overcome it, for the most part), and if lavender wants to stop feeling guilty for a while, she could live in, say, South Central LA, for a while.

I doubt if she'd still support the war after that experience.

PH-- I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with guilt.


Everyone has experienced "genuine adversity" in one form or another. It's all relative. Someone I care very much about has experienced more horror in four years than any ten people experience in a lifetime.

Some people are victims. Others are survivors.
 
Re: Re: Re: PH & BAC

Problem Child said:
lol...it's all relative.

And how dare I be so sanctimonious in a post where I misspell "sanctimonious".
 
Re: Re: PH & BAC

miles said:
Everyone has experienced "genuine adversity" in one form or another. It's all relative. Someone I care very much about has experienced more horror in four years than any ten people experience in a lifetime.

Some people are victims. Others are survivors.

Well put. Which is why he won't get it.
 
Re: PH & BAC

REDWAVE said:
My point was that I have experienced genuine adversity in my life (and overcome it, for the most part), and if lavender wants to stop feeling guilty for a while, she could live in, say, South Central LA, for a while.

I doubt if she'd still support the war after that experience.

PH-- I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with guilt.

I'm thinking that her meaning was that its easy to take things for granted....those things are different for everyone.

Like the fact I take my self reliance for granted, when I could very well be thought of as the property of my father, and traded for goats....yes, I was asked how many goats does my father have, when I visited the continent.
 
Nope.... I've had my days and more are sure to come. Everytime I see a funeral procession the first thing that comes to mind is better you than me........:D
 
Re: Re: PH & BAC

badasschick said:
I'm thinking that her meaning was that its easy to take things for granted....those things are different for everyone.

Like the fact I take my self reliance for granted, when I could very well be thought of as the property of my father, and traded for goats....yes, I was asked how many goats does my father have, when I visited the continent.


Well....how many?
 
Re: Classic

REDWAVE said:
Classic example of middle-class white liberal guilt.



Look who's calling who liberal Elvis!

Classic example of Liberal Syndrome:

Observing the constant discrepancy between what liberals say and what they do (redwave), between their stated goals and the actual results of their policies (redwave), it becomes obvious that their purported motives are not their real ones (redwave). In fact all leftists, whether they call themselves liberals or libertarians or socialists or communists or whatever, display the same basic pattern of behavior: professing fine-sounding ideals about freedom, equality, justice, democracy, etc., while ignoring these ideals in practice(redwave), or actively destroying them to the extent that they have already been realized(redwave).

Peace Elvis

:)


edited for drama
 
Last edited:
Back
Top