Do we need another war?

pdx39

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A major shift is occurring in US policy on Iraq.

It is obvious that Washington wants to end 11 years of a self-serving policy of containment of the Iraqi regime and change to a policy of replacing, by force, Saddam Hussein and his government. The current policy of economic sanctions has destroyed society in Iraq and caused the death of thousands, young and old. There is evidence of that daily in reports from reputable international organizations such as Caritas, Unicef, and Save the Children.

A change to a policy of replacement by force will increase that suffering. The creators of the policy must no longer assume that they can satisfy voters by expressing contempt for those who oppose them. The problem is not the inability of the public to understand the bigger picture, as former US secretary of state Madeleine Albright likes to suggest. It is the opposite. The bigger picture, the hidden agenda, is well understood by ordinary people.

We should not forget Henry Kissinger's brutally frank admission that "oil is much too important a commodity to be left in the hands of the Arabs." How much longer can democratically elected governments hope to get away with justifying policies that punish the Iraqi people for something they did not do, through economic sanctions that target them in the hope that those who survive will overthrow the regime? Is international law only applicable to the losers? Does the UN security council only serve the powerful?

The UK and the US, as permanent members of the council, are fully aware that the UN embargo operates in breach of the UN covenants on human rights, the Geneva and Hague conventions and other international laws. It is neither anti-UK nor anti-US to point out that Washington and London, more than anywhere else, have in the past decade helped to write the Iraq chapter in the history of avoidable tragedies.

The UK and the US have deliberately pursued a policy of punishment since the Gulf war victory in 1991. The two governments have consistently opposed allowing the UN security council to carry out its mandated responsibilities to assess the impact of sanctions policies on civilians. We know about this first hand, because the governments repeatedly tried to prevent us from briefing the security council about it.

The pitiful annual limits, of less than $170 per person, for humanitarian supplies, set by them during the first three years of the oil-for-food programme are unarguable evidence of such a policy. We have seen the effects on the ground and cannot comprehend how the US ambassador, James Cunningham, could look into the eyes of his colleagues a year ago and say: "We (the US government) are satisfied that the oil-for-food programme is meeting the needs of the Iraqi people." Besides the provision of food and medicine, the real issue today is that Iraqi oil revenues must be invested in the reconstruction of civilian infrastructure destroyed in the Gulf war.

Despite the severe inadequacy of the permitted oil revenue to meet the minimum needs of the Iraqi people, 30 cents (now 25) of each dollar that Iraqi oil earned from 1996 to 2000 were diverted by the UN security council, at the behest of the UK and US governments, to compensate outsiders for losses allegedly incurred because of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

If this money had been made available to Iraqis, it could have saved many lives. The uncomfortable truth is that the west is holding the Iraqi people hostage, in order to secure Saddam Hussein's compliance to ever-shifting demands. The UN secretary-general, who would like to be a mediator, has repeatedly been prevented from taking this role by the US and the UK governments.

The imprecision of UN resolutions on Iraq - "constructive ambiguity" as the US and UK define it - is seen by those governments as a useful tool when dealing with this kind of conflict. The US and UK dismiss criticism by pointing out that the Iraqi people are being punished by Baghdad. If this is true, why do we punish them further?

The most recent report of the UN secretary-general, in October 2001, says that the US and UK governments' blocking of $4bn of humanitarian supplies is by far the greatest constraint on the implementation of the oil-for-food programme. The report says that, in contrast, the Iraqi government's distribution of humanitarian supplies is fully satisfactory (as it was when we headed this programme).

The death of some 5-6,000 children a month is mostly due to contaminated water, lack of medicines and malnutrition. The US and UK governments' delayed clearance of equipment and materials is responsible for this tragedy, not Baghdad. The expectation of a US attack on Iraq does not create conditions in the UN security council suited to discussions on the future of economic sanctions.

This year's UK-sponsored proposal for "smart sanctions" will not be retabled. Too many people realize that what looked superficially like an improvement for civilians is really an attempt to maintain the bridgeheads of the existing sanctions policy: no foreign investments and no rights for the Iraqis to manage their own oil revenues. The proposal suggested sealing Iraq's borders, strangling the Iraqi people. In the present political climate, a technical extension of the durrent terms is considered the most expedient step by Washington.

That this condemns more Iraqis to death and destitution is shrugged off as unavoidable. What we describe is not conjecture. These are undeniable facts known to us as two former insiders. We are outraged that the Iraqi people continue to be made to pay the price for the lucrative arms trade and power politics.

We are reminded of Martin Luther King's words: "A time has come when silence is betrayal. That time is now." We want to encourage people everywhere to protest against unscrupulous policies and against the appalling disinformation put out about Iraq by those who know better, but are willing to sacrifice people's lives with false and malicious arguments.

The US Defense Department, and Richard Butler, former head of the UN arms inspection team in Baghdad, would prefer Iraq to have been behind the anthrax scare. But they had to recognize that it had its origin within the US. British and US intelligence agencies know well that Iraq is qualitatively disarmed, and they have not forgotten that the outgoing secretary of defense, William Powell, told incoming President George Bush in January: "Iraq no longer poses a military threat to its neighbours".

The same message has come from former UN arms inspectors. But to admit this would be to nail the entire UN policy, as it has been developed and maintained by the US and UK governments. We are horrified by the prospects of a new US-led war against Iraq. T

he implications of "finishing unfinished business" in Iraq are too serious for the global community to ignore. We hope that the warnings of leaders in the Middle East and all of us who care about human rights are not ignored by the US government. What is now most urgently needed is an attack on injustice, not on the Iraqi people.
 
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Proper paragraph structure, people might actually read what you're writing.
 
A couple of spaces in between major segments of thoughts might help us to read what you've posted. As it is, the eye and mind get tired of reading before they even begin regardless of the inherent worth of the post.

Additionally, it's been definitively demonstrated time after time, that if you do a cut 'n paste post here at Lit, people will respond a lot better to it if you also provide your own thoughts and commentary on what you've posted.
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Edit: Fucking misspellings of simple words and my inability to *not* cringe when i see them.
 
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And Saddam Hussein, of course, would never hold back any money from his people and their welfare in order to increase his own wealth and rebuild his programs for the production of weapons of mass destruction. How many palaces does he have now? Is he up to a hundred yet?

He has the bomb, that's from the his ex-nuclear program director. All he needs is enough time undisturbed to be able to make it small and reliable enough to put on a ballistic missile.

By all means let's ease up on Saddam. He'll get his nukes working faster, he'll nuke Israel, we'll get another major war in the mid-east over and done with, and guess what...his people will still be starving. Good plan.
 
Of course PC, nuke Isreal also solve the whole Isreal/Palestine conflict as well. As a matter of fact, i propose all out nuclear holocaust as a solution to the world's problems. Total Human Extinction a plan to save the planet. Since the vast majority of the planet's worst problems are humans, lets rid the Earth of this vile species!
 
My, oh my, PC . . .

how can you ever support those who want to blame America and our government's policies and actions for everything that's wrong in the world when you start introducing facts and reason into the discussion.

For SHAME!!! Support your local liberal/collectivist. Ignore and deride the facts and the truth. :rolleyes:

Keep this up and you'll have people convinced this Problem Child moniker may be more than just a facade.
 
Sorry, I'm with the women on this one. I didn't read it- too difficult in the format you posted it in.
 
God...Please wake the hell up

There is nothing worse then a bleeding heart, trying to sound smart. You only quote what you want to hear.... Let me guess your a college student? Atleast you sound like one of those ones that burned the flag & spit on the soldiers when they got back from Vietnam.

Try to look at both sides... Suddam is a murderer. He killed an entire village with a blister agent. A blister agent is the worst way to die. You drown in your own body fluids, as your skin begins to burn & blister. A VILLAGE...meaning women, children, elderly, & yes a few men capapble of fighting. Should Suddam stay in power. Yes & no. He adds stability to his country. With out him there, we would be dealing with another Afghanistan. Thats why we didn't take him out in Desert Storm. We couldn't garrauntee who would be his successor. But he is a murderer & needs to face justice.
Look I don't want to get into a big debate with you on literotica. This is a sex site. Where people cum...& cum alot to express their fantasies. It just pisses me off seeing people like you who think there is a comspirasy behind everything that happens in Washington.

P.S. All you literary types when you get done grading my essay for grammer & composition. I got a "C" in high school... So eat me....LOL
 
It is a sexual fantasy site, and I have to say that I would not ever for no amount of money or torture, fuck Saddam Hussien.
 
I wont read that all.. but I vote for war. I'll even join the army to support my decision if necessary. If the whole world worked like the USA, there would be a lot more wealth to go around.

Imperialism now!
 
Hot damn....

I saw the thread title and thought there was finally a good political thread. When I saw that PC and Unclebill (my favorite Libertarian) and Chyenne had posted to the thread.... I thought this had to be a good thread.

Then I read the lead post...... what a dissapointment!

I felt like I did the other day when I was walking with a friend through a cattle feed pen.

My friend said, "This sure is a lot of bullshit".

I replied, "Stinks too".
 
Actually, I think the world should....

BigDawg69 said:
It is a sexual fantasy site, and I have to say that I would not ever for no amount of money or torture, fuck Saddam Hussien.

fuck SaddamBLOODY. We should have eliminated him long ago. Better late than never.

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Where's a good sniper when you need one? That is half the problem. The other half is Who will take over the country that cares about the people there, and also leave the other countries alone.
 
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