Disney....

[jackflash81]

Does anyone else like the idea of something involving Disney characters?

I guess they would have to be in the same movie...to keep the setting the same...

Just a though, haven't really developed it any further!

 

[RichardBacula]

Could do Kingdom Hearts, and have lots of crossovers.

 

[Carnevil9]

How about an evil sorcerer (or cartoonist with magical powers) finds a way to bring ALL the Disney Princesses to life, and keeps them captive in his basement. There he forces them to make love to each other for his amusement, and takes them one by one to his bed chamber for his sexual pleasure.

PS - Dark Pleasures will be along shortly to tell you that Disney will prosecute you for violating their copyrights. She's wrong.

 

[jackflash81]

thanks for the ideas guys, all good possibilities..

Would be interested to get more takes on the idea

 

[Athlantian]

Actually the Tv series 'Once upon a time' would be a great source of inspiration for a plot like that

You could also include some newer characters (Jessica Rabbit anyone) just to add some spice.
Hmm Imagine 'Alice in wonderland' with a twist: The place she lands is a place where cartoon characters are real .. and kinky

 

[Sean Renaud]

The question with Disney is figuring out what Laurel thinks Disney Cannon is. She specifically states that you can't age up characters. Bart Simpson is forever out of bounds because he's twelve of what not. Most of the Disney Princesses are explicity stated to be 16 but at this point I don't think there are any of them left without a sequel or two and they aren't totally clear on when most of those take place. I think the only Disney Princesses who are DEFINITELY of age are Tiana (Black one from The Princess and the Frog, she lived on her own, owned her own business and her age was never *to my knowledge* stated. I think it's safe to assume she's in her mid twenties maybe even late twenties) and Ariel who in the sequel has a daughter of at least six years of age which makes her 22 at the absolute youngest.

That's where you'll hit some problems with Lit though.

 

[jackflash81]

I think Rupunzel is 18 in Tangled....and Elastigirl in the Incredibles is fine too!

 

[Sean Renaud]

Not that Elastigirl is a Disney Princess but that's true she's clearly a woman in cannon, I don't remember an age for Rapunzel.

But Princess Jasmine turns 16 at the end of Alladin its sort of a major plot point and we have no way of knowing how long passes between the first and third movie, she might be sixteen and three months or she might be eighteen. (My honest guess is she's probably seventeen or so but who knows?)

 

[jackflash81]

I did say Disney characters.....rather than princesses...in defence of me!

I agree that it is a minefield though....making sure you stick to the rules.

So, as far as I see it, the following (females) are acceptable (ages from Disney Wiki) please feel free to add more!:

1. Rapunzel (18)
2. Elastigirl
3. Mirage (other lady in Incredibles)
4. Jessica Rabbit
5. Cinderella Evil Stepmother
6. Belle...I believe she is 17
7. Any of the toys from Toy Story
8. Andy's mum, in Toy Story (Mrs Davis)
9. Esmeralda (Hunchback of notre Dame)
10. Monsters Inc characters (except humans)
11.

 

[Sean Renaud]

17 wouldn't cut it so if Belle is 17 she's out.

I'd argue that Ariel is in her 20's since the sequel has her daughter in it.

I'm not sure how old any of the Toy Story toys would be considered. Jesse (the only female other than Ms. Potato Head) is certainly portrayed as being a teen but that could mean 18 or 19 or just that she looks up to Woody.

Though I would add all the evil Step Mothers.

Maleficent (Sleeping Beauty)
The Queen (Snow White)
Merida's Mum (Brave)
Kim Possible, Bonnie (Graduated High School and Lit generallly accepts that high school seniors are of age)
Shego (Kim Possible)
Demona, Angela, Eliza, Queen Titania, Fox, Hyena (Gargoyles)
Tinkerbell (I know of no way to accurately age a pixie and for the sake of sparing head aches lets not discuss physical age vs maturity in species that have significantly longer or shorter life spans than humans. )


Alice and Wendy Darling fall into an interesting case of Laurel could stop us but in the same way she could stop us from posting stories with the world 'blue' in them. Technically both of them aren't under any copyrights and we are perfectly within our rights to age them, claim we meant American McGee's Alice and Hook's Wendy Darling but within cannon but are tweens at the most.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Jane (Tarzan)
Meg (Hercules, presumably. She certainly doesn't carry herself like a young woman)
Gadget (Rescue Rangers. Presumably. They wouldn't be the first Teen super hero group but they don't seem to be.)
Nani (Lilo and Stitch. She was given legal care of Lilo which in the US means she was 18+)
Yzma (Emperor's New Groove. Don't make that face. I can see you. If she has potions that can turn you into a Llama she can make herself young and chooses not to)
Mad Madam Mim (The Sword in the Stone. I can still see you. Stop it. She even makes herself hot once just because it makes her laugh.)
Pocahantas as a real historical figure (who was younger in real life than depicted in the film) raises all sorts of i assume Laurel would shrug her shoulders and pretend she didn't see it problems.

 

[DarkPleasures]

PS - Dark Pleasures will be along shortly to tell you that Disney will prosecute you for violating their copyrights. She's wrong.

DarkPleasures has never said that to anyone on here. Thank you.

 

[Athlantian]

This is a minefield.
Mostly because you need to define age (or rather Lit needs to be asked about this).
Age is usually defined as the amount of time from birth to the present day, but how does that function with cartoon figures?
Bart Simpson is an excellent example, since he was created a long time ago (in 1987), but haven't aged physically.. So is he (At least) 26 or an underage?
To quote Jessica Rabbit: "I'm not bad.. I'm just drawn that way!"
or in this case:""I'm not underage, ... I'm just drawn that way."

If we leave cartoons and go Sci--Fi for a moment, then imagine that a spaceship lands on a planet, where everbody looks like there're 12 or 14... even when they are 50 years old. So are they underage or or not?

Anyway a story involving some Disney characters could be fun to read.

 

[Sean Renaud]

While Laurel could do to be a little easier to read you're wrong.

Age for fictional characters is based on cannon. Bart is underage because he's 10 and Marge is of age because she's in her 30s or 40s. The only question there become characters in multiple series and the like Pebbles and Bam Bam do in fact grow up and eventually have a movie where they get married. There doesn't seem to be a rule on if they are in or out of bounds.

For your second question the rule of thumb is if they look underage they are underage regardless of how old they are. Stories have in fact been rejected for budding breasts and other hints that the character is in the middle of experiencing puberty. I'm curious how they would deal with a Halfling, Hobbit or other fantasy creature though.

The above two rules also make the ground rules for vampires and robots. A Jessica Alba robot is 18 by default the second it comes off the assembly line, so would a clone. By contrast a five thousand year old vampire who was turned when she was twelve is out of bounds.

That's specifically why I brought up movies with sequels like the Little Mermaid because Ariel would be off limits because she's 16 (in fact the movie kicks off with a concert for her birthday) but the sequel gives her a daughter which simple math means Ariel is at the very youngest going on 18 and. . .yeah unless her kid ages fast she's in her 20s) That's where the minefield is.

 

[i_would]

The only question there become characters in multiple series and the like Pebbles and Bam Bam do in fact grow up and eventually have a movie where they get married. There doesn't seem to be a rule on if they are in or out of bounds.

And, you know, there is a generic rule for all these borderline issues:

"When in doubt, PM Laurel."

Disney characters are specifically risky anyway knowing how aggressively Disney protects their copyrights and other IP, like trademarks. They won't sit idle when their characters appear in pornographic settings.

 

[Sean Renaud]

And, you know, there is a generic rule for all these borderline issues:

"When in doubt, PM Laurel."

Disney characters are specifically risky anyway knowing how aggressively Disney protects their copyrights and other IP, like trademarks. They won't sit idle when their characters appear in pornographic settings.

Problem being that Laurel seems to judge these things similar to the way she judges rape. It's only offensive if it offends her. I understand why it's that way but it leads to one of the most specific cases of "it's better to beg forgiveness than ask permission" in all of history.

Disney really can't do anything about us in general. There are too many of us and they are on fairly shaky ground legally anyway with Lit. They own close to NONE of their characters. Almost everything they "own" comes direct from actual fairy tales and myths so they own the visual images but not the characters themselves. Parody Law covers our asses rather well too in most cases. Sure they COULD come after us and I'll say the same thing here that I always say.

If I managed to piss off the House of Mouse the first thing I'm gonna do is go on Good Day LA and and cry like someone just kicked my puppy down a flight of stairs, I'm going to make them look like the biggest dicks in history and when I'm done with that I'm going to get their legal documents framed, hung on my wall and then I'm going to charge people 50 cents a pop to take a picture with me in front of them.

 

[Shendude]

On the subject, I once attempted to make a CHYOO story involving Sexworld versions of Disney movies, but like all my other CHYOO projects it went nowhere.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Does anything on that CHYOO ever work? I wish I knew why Laurel got rid of the old create your own story sector.

 

[Shendude]

Does anything on that CHYOO ever work? I wish I knew why Laurel got rid of the old create your own story sector.

It's not that it didn't work, it's just no one else contributed and I didn't have the patience to keep it going myself.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fair enough. I remember trying it once and it just didn't feel right, but I'm not always famed for my patience.