Disappointing Responses

[Boxlicker101]

Sometimes I wonder what criteria people use to decide what to read. I have two stories, in particular, both E/C that seem to have been almost shunned by readers. One of them has been posted for over four months and has only 2,544 views with 12 votes averaging 4.50. It does rate the red "H" but that seems like very few viewers for the time period. I have other stories, also E/C that have not been around as long and have many times more views. Another story has been posted over ten months and has 4,664 views and only 15 votes, averaging 4.33. Both have one PC, which I posted myself in hopes of inducing more.

 

[sexyspiders]

not that im an expert, but i think it might have something to do with your titles and descriptions.

i just clicked on ur profile and glanced through the huge list of stories available, but not many of them grabbed my attention.

sorry.

theres a guide on titles in the writters resources

http://www.literotica.com:81/stories/showstory.php?id=14176

hope this helps,
spiders >( ' . ' )<

 

[Boxlicker101]

not that im an expert, but i think it might have something to do with your titles and descriptions.

i just clicked on ur profile and glanced through the huge list of stories available, but not many of them grabbed my attention.

sorry.

theres a guide on titles in the writters resources

http://www.literotica.com:81/stories/showstory.php?id=14176

hope this helps,
spiders >( ' . ' )<

I have to admit that the titles are not exactly attention grabbers. They mostly say something like "I call on Daisy" or something equally ennoccuous instead of something more along the lines of "I eat and fuck Daisy's pussy", which would be a more accurate name. I try to make the descriptions more interesting but I don't always get to say what I want.

The reason for titles like that is that most of them are part of a series and I like to show that. I hope to establish a reader base who will recognize my name and read the stories based on that. So far, I have had some luck but not as much as I would like., Of course, I will never get as much as I would like.

Those stories that are not part of the series tend to have more interreresting names, such as "My Cute Nieces" or Deidre and Horny Horny" or "Betty's Busy Fingers". These are doing fairlly well in terms of views and votes, depending on their category. Actually, even most of the other E/C are doing better than the two I mentioned. Their names are "I Call on Lorna" and I Install Cable for Lynn".

 

[wishfulthinking]

I don't know. I think the titles you use have their advantages. With an increasing number of stories on lit, your titles are very honest about what readers will find if they read your story.

Eg. I install cable for Lynn - I could be wrong, but he probably a friend or tradesman who goes and installs cable for Lynn, they chat, she offers him a drink, they f**k.

I also think timing. Some days or weeks are slower then others, others are brilliant eg 3 day weekends.

Also the story itself, some fantasies have a broader appeal than others.

 

[Boxlicker101]

I don't know. I think the titles you use have their advantages. With an increasing number of stories on lit, your titles are very honest about what readers will find if they read your story.

Eg. I install cable for Lynn - I could be wrong, but he probably a friend or tradesman who goes and installs cable for Lynn, they chat, she offers him a drink, they f**k.

I also think timing. Some days or weeks are slower then others, others are brilliant eg 3 day weekends.

Also the story itself, some fantasies have a broader appeal than others.

The stories in the series are about George Boxlicker and his sexual escapades with various women, sometimes involving other men. "I Call on Lorna" is not about a neighborly visit to Lorna; it is a stroke story about George going to visit her and eating her p***y and f**king. This is done while listening to recordings of the late Barry White because the real Lorna is a big fan of Barry White.

The cable installing is a stroke story of George and Lynn role-playing that he is going to her bedroom to install cable TV and she seduces him. The real Lynn likes that kind of role-playing so I wrote the story that way. Most of my stories are like that, based on real women and what they like and even including their real names and descriptions.

Most of the story names are actually misleading and if people had never read any of my stories and they saw one named "I Dine with Izabella" or "I Go Hiking with Doreen" or "I Call on Jenny" or "Ruthie Calls on Me", or similar names, they would probably say something like "Who cares?" and go on to read something else to wank or frig to. Only the BDSM stories and some of those out of the series are honestly named.

 

[Shallkneel4u]

I'd have to agree with everyone else that your titles do not create the desire to read further. So far, I have posted two stories to the site...the first one had over 12,000 reads in the first few days, though did not get very many written comments on the work. The second story has been up two days and at last glance it had over 27,000 reads, though again few comments. I can only think that my titles create a desire to click on my story to see what its about.

Shallkneel4u

 

[Guest]

Pussy
Cunt
Fuck
Cock
Dick
Rape
Kill
Fisting
Beastality
Poofter-fuck
Ass-rimming
Anal-fisting
Clitoral circumsision

Sorry. Just checking if Lit-board had became censored.

 

[sexyspiders]

Pussy
Cunt
Fuck
Cock
Dick
Rape
Kill
Fisting
Beastality
Poofter-fuck
Ass-rimming
Anal-fisting
Clitoral circumsision

Sorry. Just checking if Lit-board had became censored.

no need to appologise cv, we expect nothing more and nothing less from u!!!!

wats ur opinion on titles? can they be too abstract?

spiders >( ' . ' )<

 

[Boxlicker101]

I'd have to agree with everyone else that your titles do not create the desire to read further. So far, I have posted two stories to the site...the first one had over 12,000 reads in the first few days, though did not get very many written comments on the work. The second story has been up two days and at last glance it had over 27,000 reads, though again few comments. I can only think that my titles create a desire to click on my story to see what its about.

Shallkneel4u

I'll have to admit the titles do not entice many people but I have been including very explicit descriptions such as "They like to fuck, especially in her ass" or similar descriptions. The fact that a story is on a porn site should indicate what they are about and I like to continue to have stories being part of a series. I have an anal srory, "Ruthie Calls on Me". The description says "The deacon's wife LOVES it in her ass". Anybody who sees that will know what the story is about. It would seem to be redundant to have titled it "I Fuck Ruthie in Her Ass".

CV, you may be happy to know the posts are not being censored.

 

[Guest]

BLicker -

I haven't checked your stories, but from my own experience I believe titles do play a big role.

Example - Erotic Coupling - HUGE category, stories are easily overlooked. One of the first stories I submitted here when I joined is called Morning Sex. It's a sweet morning sex romp of a loving couple. I think the tag line is "Couple engages in delicious good morning."

OK - only now, two years later, is this story finally getting reads and votes and has an 'H.' Why? Because I've built up a following, and now people are going BACK to find the story when they read my recent stuff. It didn't get reads then because the title sucked!

Thinking now, I should have titled it "Of Course I'll Respect You in the Morning!" which would have fit the story perfectly and would have garnered many more reads immediately.

You can still give a good description in the tag line - you don't have to fool people - but a clever, teasing title is a good idea.



(Oh - and I'm saving that title, by the way - look for it on another story soon!)

 

[Boxlicker101]

Re: BLicker -

I haven't checked your stories, but from my own experience I believe titles do play a big role.

Example - Erotic Coupling - HUGE category, stories are easily overlooked. One of the first stories I submitted here when I joined is called Morning Sex. It's a sweet morning sex romp of a loving couple. I think the tag line is "Couple engages in delicious good morning."

OK - only now, two years later, is this story finally getting reads and votes and has an 'H.' Why? Because I've built up a following, and now people are going BACK to find the story when they read my recent stuff. It didn't get reads then because the title sucked!

Thinking now, I should have titled it "Of Course I'll Respect You in the Morning!" which would have fit the story perfectly and would have garnered many more reads immediately.

You can still give a good description in the tag line - you don't have to fool people - but a clever, teasing title is a good idea.



(Oh - and I'm saving that title, by the way - look for it on another story soon!)

Sarahh, that title is too long to fit. There is a limit to how long a title can be and that one is too long.

 

[Guest]

Laughing -

What is the limit, actually? (I do have some fairly lengthy titles.)

But that isn't really the point. Interesting and clever titles tend to get more reads.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Re: Laughing -

What is the limit, actually? (I do have some fairly lengthy titles.)

But that isn't really the point. Interesting and clever titles tend to get more reads.

You can go to the submissions page and write in the space allocatedfor the title. As I recall, it allowed the first two letters of "Morning" but that was all.

I agree about the provacative titles but I also like to keep it clear that stories are part of a series. Within that framework, I am trying to make the titles more interesting.

 

[Gabbycat]

Responses

Okay, I've only been writting here for a few months and this is I think my first post.

I don't know if it is the Title of the story, or the tease in the description. I tend to feel its description. I've got 6 stories posted right now and most have over 10000 views. I have one that doesn't. The funny thing is when I read the story line I know I gave an accurate description, which I thoughy people would enjoy. Its an E/C where a woman meets her cyber. It was wrote for one of my "harem". He loved the story. That was the point of writting the story in the first place. The story is very real life, reality. I've came to the conclusion that virtual people don't like reality. Many of my other titles have recieved far more views. Most have much less realisim. Most arn't in the E/C catagory either.

I know as a person who reads as many stories as I write, I can only read about four a day. I'm probably not going to read an E/C or a romance. I think its a huge catagory with lots of mushy sex. for me to read something out of those catagories it has to really jump off the page.

I think my biggest disappointment as a writer is the group of people that know they arn't going to like a story but read it for the chance to complain that rape and bdsm isn't sexy. As I've been viewing feedback I've noticed this tends to be a trend. I should have viewed other author's feedback before posting my own in this catagory

Okay I'm done,
Gabby

 

[Guest]

Gabby -

Hello!

(Be sure to check out and post in the Author's Hangout Forum, too!)

You make very valid points. E/C is a tough category because it contains so many stories and people often view it as generic. I think over time good stories will eventually rise to the top.

If someone wants to read stories just for stroke purposes they'll probably jump to their favorite category immediately (incest, anal, BDSM, whatever). They'll want to access their particular kink. Some of those categories have a huge number of readers.

As for realism, I think that does work. My stories stay realistic. I want a reader to be able to put themselves right into the action. And I have received terrific feedback in appreciation.

OK - idiot feedback? I will never understand someone who is against a particular thing (sharing wives, incest, anal sex, spanking, etc.) and they choose to seek out stories with that topic just so they can complain. Morons.

And they usually post loud and ridiculous comments, and their hate-filled feedback is usually anonymous. I think most writers here have received those types of comments - fuck 'em, delete 'em, forget 'em.

Welcome to Lit!

 

[Gabbycat]

Responses

Okay, I've only been writting here for a few months and this is I think my first post.

I don't know if it is the Title of the story, or the tease in the description. I tend to feel its description. I've got 6 stories posted right now and most have over 10000 views. I have one that doesn't. The funny thing is when I read the story line I know I gave an accurate description, which I thoughy people would enjoy. Its an E/C where a woman meets her cyber. It was wrote for one of my "harem". He loved the story. That was the point of writting the story in the first place. The story is very real life, reality. I've came to the conclusion that virtual people don't like reality. Many of my other titles have recieved far more views. Most have much less realisim. Most arn't in the E/C catagory either.

I know as a person who reads as many stories as I write, I can only read about four a day. I'm probably not going to read an E/C or a romance. I think its a huge catagory with lots of mushy sex. for me to read something out of those catagories it has to really jump off the page.

I think my biggest disappointment as a writer is the group of people that know they arn't going to like a story but read it for the chance to complain that rape and bdsm isn't sexy. As I've been viewing feedback I've noticed this tends to be a trend. I should have viewed other author's feedback before posting my own in this catagory

Okay I'm done,
Gabby

 

[Boxlicker101]

I've seen double posts before but I think this is the first time I have ever seen one where there is another post BETWEEN the doubled posts.

 

[Guest]

Titles are important; so are descriptions.

Boxlicker does CV in the gay category with a description: the black stalion fills young man's asshole

Or,

Long, hard loving: the becoming in the romance category with a description: his heart is once again unbroken from deep ass worship

Go look for the story: both are one and the same - and HOT.

 

[Guest]

Titles are important; so are descriptions.

Boxlicker does CV in the gay category with a description: the black stalion fills young man's asshole

Or,

Long, hard loving: the becoming in the romance category with a description: his heart is once again unbroken from deep ass worship

Go look for the story: both are one and the same - and HOT.

*grin*

Um - yeah!

Hey - where's the link to that hot story?



(there are two L's in Stallion, big guy)

 

[Boxlicker101]

I just now submitted another story and the title is "My Cute Nieces, Part 2". It's about incest, of course, as was Part 1, and the description says "She wanted me to fuck her in her ass so I did." I don't believe anybody will have any problem figuring out what that story is about.

As a combination of incest and anal, it combines two of the most popular categories of story and it willl probably have more votes and more views than any other I have written. Currently, Part 1 has the most votes and a N/C story has the nost views.

 

[Shallkneel4u]

Dear Box Licker:

Having read through your responses in most of this thread, I am wondering if you really sincerely want to change your style of title at all. Suggestions made to you seem to be met with flippant come backs followed by harshly crude titles you could have used in place of the boring ones you seem intent upon using. Your my two nieces title is not overly interesting, and your alternative not any more appealing.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Dear Box Licker:

Having read through your responses in most of this thread, I am wondering if you really sincerely want to change your style of title at all. Suggestions made to you seem to be met with flippant come backs followed by harshly crude titles you could have used in place of the boring ones you seem intent upon using. Your my two nieces title is not overly interesting, and your alternative not any more appealing.

I'm really not trying to be flippant and I am hesitant about changing the style of titling. First, there are imitations in what can be said in a title since we are allowed only 35 characters or spaces. I can try to make the titles a little more provacative but I still want them to remain obviously part of a series. I intend to go through my older stories and rewrite the descriptions so they say very plainly what the stories are about. Sometimes the descriptions that I put in have been changed and not usually for the better.

 

[Guest]

How about - "A Delicious Pair of Nieces?"

and description: "Double the pleasure, double your fun?"

You don't HAVE to tell them it contains anal - let them discover that for themselves!

 

[Guest]

big guy

Hey! That's private info!

 

[Guest]

Hey! That's private info!

Ooops.

Shall I remove the pictures from the website?