Did Covid-19 Check Into Hotel California First?

[Pookie]

Two Californians died of coronavirus weeks before previously known 1st US death

(CNN)New autopsy results show coronavirus killed two Californians in early and mid-February -- up to three weeks before the previously known first US death from the virus.

These deaths now stand as the country's first two attributed to the novel coronavirus, a development that may change the understanding of how early the virus was spreading in the country, health experts told CNN Wednesday.

Two deaths in Northern California's Santa Clara County happened February 6 and February 17, the county said in a news release Tuesday.

Dr. Sara Cody, the county's chief medical officer, told The New York Times that the two had no known travel histories to China or anywhere else that would have exposed them to the virus. They are presumed to have caught the virus through community spread, she told the Times.

"That is a very significant finding," Dr. Ashish K. Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told CNN's "New Day" on Wednesday.

"Somebody who died on February 6, they probably contracted that virus early to mid-January. It takes at least two to three weeks from the time you contract the virus and you die from it."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/us/california-deaths-earliest-in-us/index.html

Discuss.

 

[HisArpy]

Someone told me a joke where a man in Florida was killed and eaten by an alligator. Upon examination, the remains tested positive for CV19 and subsequently that was listed as his cause of death.

Which is an illustration on how ridiculous the COD classifications are getting to be.

 

[Pookie]

Someone told me a joke where a man in Florida was killed and eaten by an alligator. Upon examination, the remains tested positive for CV19 and subsequently that was listed as his cause of death.

Which is an illustration on how ridiculous the COD classifications are getting to be.

Any real examples? Just curious.

 

[Ziggins]

Unemployment and medical bills can be fatal.

 

[HisArpy]

Any real examples? Just curious.

There have been many recent news stories about why the spikes in CV deaths are because EVERYTHING is being classified as death due to CV.

Follow the money.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/cor...19-cause-death-certificate-pcom-20200401.html

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...sed-contributed-death-lab-tests-not-required/

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

 

[hobbit.]

A friend of a cousin of my next door neighbours window cleaner says that a recent aircrash in which 492 died was due to the pilots friends milkmans aunt having Covid. While the pilot was talking to the co pilot about it he crashed the plane into the baggage carousel and all the deaths were atributed to Covid-19. Typical really.

 

[hogjack]

There has long been speculation that Communist China released this particular virus months earlier than has been most often estimated.

The Party ain't done yet. They seem to be accelerating plans to become #1. This is accomplished through a multi-pronged approach. Destabilizing the Americas and Europe is a big win. Not sure how they convinced OPEC and/or Russia to play along on the petroleum side of the destabilization plan.

 

[dp4shelly]

Timeline

It is important to remember that the timeline that we are given is based on when the communist government in China first mentioned the virus. We know that they lied about where it stated and how it started. So, there is no reason to believe what they said about WHEN it started. There is no real reason to believe that the virus did not get out of their lab much earlier than has been reported. It may have been seeded through international travel for many months or even a year or more before it began to be identified. Since young people manifest little or no symptoms it would have easily been viewed as a simple cold by millions of early victims. Likewise, many older and infirm individuals that died before the virus was identified would have been pronounced dead from respiratory infection. This happens to tens of thousands most years anyway and is just viewed as a consequence of various flu viruses.

So calling it COVID-19 could be misleading on every level. The W.H.O. insisted on naming it on something other than the geographical source and adding "19" helps brainwash people into thinking that it stated in 2019. That is why I call it the China Virus.

 

[hobbit.]

Not sure how they convinced OPEC and/or Russia to play along on the petroleum side of the destabilization plan.

they offered them Taiwan and a reduced carbon footprint. Greta then approved the proposal as head of the new world order.

 

[hogjack]

It is important to remember that the timeline that we are given is based on when the communist government in China first mentioned the virus. We know that they lied about where it stated and how it started. So, there is no reason to believe what they said about WHEN it started.

Communist China would neverrelease false information.

Ask anyone in China who attempted to provide the truth. If they can be found.

 

[hogjack]

So calling it COVID-19 could be misleading on every level. The W.H.O. insisted on naming it on something other than the geographical source and adding "19" helps brainwash people into thinking that it stated in 2019. That is why I call it the China Virus.

W.H.O. sucks at names. They were behind New Coke.

 

[Pookie]

There have been many recent news stories about why the spikes in CV deaths are because EVERYTHING is being classified as death due to CV.

Follow the money.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/cor...19-cause-death-certificate-pcom-20200401.html

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...sed-contributed-death-lab-tests-not-required/

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Your first link says the opposite:

In Illinois, officials announced last weekend that an infant died after testing positive for the virus, but said they were still determining the cause of death. And in Florida, two deaths were listed as virus-related in mid-March, then later removed from the official count.

 

[hogjack]

they offered them Taiwan and a reduced carbon footprint. Greta then approved the proposal as head of the new world order.

Miss Thunberg is turning out to be a good friend of The Party.

Perhaps she has political aspirations when independent nations fall to her globalist brethren.

 

[HisArpy]

Your first link says the opposite:

In Illinois, officials announced last weekend that an infant died after testing positive for the virus, but said they were still determining the cause of death. And in Florida, two deaths were listed as virus-related in mid-March, then later removed from the official count.

OOooOOOOOOooooooo....


You found 1 incident of an "unreported" COD as compared to all the others designated as CV19 related worldwide. How utterly devastating to my argument.

 

[Stewart_Pidd]

Two Californians died of coronavirus weeks before previously known 1st US death

(CNN)New autopsy results show coronavirus killed two Californians in early and mid-February -- up to three weeks before the previously known first US death from the virus.

These deaths now stand as the country's first two attributed to the novel coronavirus, a development that may change the understanding of how early the virus was spreading in the country, health experts told CNN Wednesday.

Two deaths in Northern California's Santa Clara County happened February 6 and February 17, the county said in a news release Tuesday.

Dr. Sara Cody, the county's chief medical officer, told The New York Times that the two had no known travel histories to China or anywhere else that would have exposed them to the virus. They are presumed to have caught the virus through community spread, she told the Times.

"That is a very significant finding," Dr. Ashish K. Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute, told CNN's "New Day" on Wednesday.

"Somebody who died on February 6, they probably contracted that virus early to mid-January. It takes at least two to three weeks from the time you contract the virus and you die from it."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/us/california-deaths-earliest-in-us/index.html

Discuss.

I heard that colitas and steely knives cure Covid bro.

Stew

 

[hobbit.]

Miss Thunberg is turning out to be a good friend of The Party.

Perhaps she has political aspirations when independent nations fall to her globalist brethren.

the uniforms will be great i hear, hand made in china.

 

[Pookie]

OOooOOOOOOooooooo....


You found 1 incident of an "unreported" COD as compared to all the others designated as CV19 related worldwide. How utterly devastating to my argument. :Rolleyes.

Do you have another article that shows "EVERYTHING is being classified as death due to CV"? I'm not saying there aren't any. Just curious to see one.

 

[Pookie]

I heard that colitas and steely knives cure Covid bro.

Stew

Just beware of the shimmering lights, cuz bro!

 

[hogjack]

the uniforms will be great i hear, hand made in china.

If there is a globalist, one-party government the Chinese-made uniform designers better take into account the vast shapes and sizes of the world's populace.

No One Size Fits All approach. People must feel good about their garb as they go about ttheir state-approved lives.

 

[HisArpy]

Do you have another article that shows "EVERYTHING is being classified as death due to CV"? I'm not saying there aren't any. Just curious to see one.

The CDC has released a new COD classification for deaths under which CV is "claimed" even though there wasn't any testing for CV. It doesn't distinguish those deaths from deaths 'actually caused by" CV for the death toll.

This information is in the last linky.

 

[hobbit.]

If there is a globalist, one-party government the Chinese-made uniform designers better take into account the vast shapes and sizes of the world's populace.

No One Size Fits All approach. People must feel good about their garb as they go about ttheir state-approved lives.

Size will not be an issue under Greatas designer baby / licence to breed programe. Likewise any adult unit which excedes specified dimensions will be recycled as a matter of urgency in a carbon neutral manner.

 

[Pookie]

The CDC has released a new COD classification for deaths under which CV is "claimed" even though there wasn't any testing for CV. It doesn't distinguish those deaths from deaths 'actually caused by" CV for the death toll.

This information is in the last linky.

So they are separating out the counts of confirmed and suspected. How does that support what you said ...

"EVERYTHING is being classified as death due to CV"

 

[HisArpy]

So they are separating out the counts of confirmed and suspected. How does that support what you said ...

"EVERYTHING is being classified as death due to CV"

1. No, they aren't. Almost all deaths are being listed as CV deaths under the new classifications BECAUSE THE CDC ISN'T "separating them".

2. It was a parody. Of course there will be some deaths that aren't listed as CV. The point was to illustrate the ridiculousness of the CDC issuing guidelines that include deaths where CV wasn't the cause but the CDC would include those deaths as being CV deaths anyway.

 

[Pookie]

1. No, they aren't. Almost all deaths are being listed as CV deaths under the new classifications BECAUSE THE CDC ISN'T "separating them".

2. It was a parody. Of course there will be some deaths that aren't listed as CV. The point was to illustrate the ridiculousness of the CDC issuing guidelines that include deaths where CV wasn't the cause but the CDC would include those deaths as being CV deaths anyway.

So can you quote the CDC guidelines where they instruct to "include deaths where CV wasn't the cause but the CDC would include those deaths as being CV deaths anyway"?

I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't see what you say is there. A quote from the CDC guidelines would be very helpful.

 

[HisArpy]

So can you quote the CDC guidelines where they instruct to "include deaths where CV wasn't the cause but the CDC would include those deaths as being CV deaths anyway"?

I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't see what you say is there. A quote from the CDC guidelines would be very helpful.

You think too linearly.

A new ICD code was established to keep track of Coronavirus deaths.

The U07.1 code will be used for death by Coronavirus infection.

However, there’s another secondary code, U07.2, “for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available,” the CDC guidelines read.

“Because laboratory test results are not typically reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.”

What that means is that there are 2 classifications, U07.1 and U70.2. U70.2 is for when confirmation is inconclusive or not available.

But...

“The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID- 19 being the underlying cause more often than not,” the guidelines read.

“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death,” CDC guidelines issued March 24 read.

So, 2 classifications. 1 for proven CV and one where CV can be "assumed" even if not proven.

Both get listed as CV deaths.