diary of a unborn child.

[stud 3;16]

october 5. today my life began. my parents do not know it yet i am as small as a seed of an apple but it is i already. and i am to be a girl. i shall have blond hair and blue eyes. just about everything is settled though even the fact that i shall love flowers. october 19. some say that i am not a real person yet that only my mother exists. but i am a real person just as a small crumb of bread is yet truly bread. my mother is. and i am. october 23. my mouth is just beginning to open now. just think in a year or so i shall i shall be laughing and later talking. i know what my first word will be mama. october 25. my heart began to beat today all by itself. from now on it shall gently beat for the rest of my life without ever stopping to rest and after many years it will tire. it will it will stop and then i hall die. november 2. i am growing a bit every day. my arms and legs are beginning to take shape. but i have to wait a long time yet before those little legs will raise me to my mothers arms before these little arms will be able to gather flowers and embrace my father. november 12. tiny fingers are beginning to form on my hands. funny how small they are ill be able to stroke my mothers hair with them. november 20. it wasent until today that the doctor told mom that i am living here under her heart oh how happy she must be are you happy mom? november 25. my mom and dad are probably thinking about a name for me. but they dont even know that i am a little girl. i want to be called kathy. i am getting so big already. december 10. my hair is growing. it is smooth and bright and shiny. i wonder what kind of hair mom has. december 13. i am just about able to see. it is dark around me. when mom brings me into the world it will be full of sunshine and flowers. but what i want more than anything is to see my mom. how do you look mom? december 24. i wonder if mom hears the whispering of my heart? some children come into the world a little sick. but my heart is strong and healthy. it beats so evenly tup tup tup tup. youll have a healthy little daughter mom. december 28. today my mother killed me.

 

[CreamyLady]

. . . and you are telling us this because . . . ?

 

[Ravenloft]

Maybe it moved him, changed his mind on certain things... Or reafirmed them...

 

[Iris]

. . . and you are telling us this because . . . ?

Because it's an emotional appeal. How can a fetus "want" anything much less a specific name. It doesn't even know what flowers are.

I see what you're getting at Stud, that abortion is sad and wrong but not everyone believes that. Yes a fetus is a human from the moment of conception but so is it's mother.

I'm pro choice myself and I know not everyone agrees with me but this sappy crap really pisses me off.

For example my partner and I are careful but what if I would forget to take a pill and then forgot I forgot? What if a condom breaks? In my case I wouldn't be able to afford the pre-natal care to even have the child to put up for adoption so are you telling me I should ruin my life to have an "accidental" child just so the bleeding hearts of the world can sleep better at night?

I know that sounds harsh and I don't cheapen life at all, but neither do I cheapen my own. A fetus doesn't make up my mind for me, I do.

 

[Ravenloft]

If his sappiness pisses you off than can your proposed carelessness (Condom breaking? He should slow down a bit... Forgot your pill... And then forgot you forgot? Hehehe! Thats funny... Grow up!) can that, oh, can that piss me off?

Either way, I don't think he was saying you don't have the right to chose, he was just putting that out there so you might, just might use some maturity in your choice...

 

[Iris]

can that, oh, can that piss me off?

Sure, it's America. I know not everyone agrees with me and I'm fine with that.

 

[CreamyLady]

This makes me very angry, and I used my flip answer for a quick response while I went away to think through a more reasoned response. I'm still steaming; however, I think I can be coherent.

I do not know one woman who decides to get pregnant just for the purpose of having an abortion. That miserable paragraph above takes NOTHING into consideration about a woman's decision: economics, environment, health, circumstances of conception. Not one damned thing, nor does it outline the physical, mental and emotional toll a full-term pregnancy takes on on a woman.

Instead, we get a romanticized notion of a sentient being, who can apparently describe its killer, if not the manner of its death. It is not the diary of a fetus; it is automatic writing, channeled from a ghost.

So, while I respect the opinion of those who do not believe in abortion, I cannot respect their constant efforts to belittle those who believe that the choice has to be available. Not every child is a creation of love; to assume that all will be well with the birth of a child is to completely misunderstand life itself.

It's a crapshoot, and sometimes it comes up snake eyes.

 

[stud 3;16]

peace

. . . and you are telling us this because . . . ?

Because it's an emotional appeal. How can a fetus "want" anything much less a specific name. It doesn't even know what flowers are.

I see what you're getting at Stud, that abortion is sad and wrong but not everyone believes that. Yes a fetus is a human from the moment of conception but so is it's mother.

I'm pro choice myself and I know not everyone agrees with me but this sappy crap really pisses me off.

For example my partner and I are careful but what if I would forget to take a pill and then forgot I forgot? What if a condom breaks? In my case I wouldn't be able to afford the pre-natal care to even have the child to put up for adoption so are you telling me I should ruin my life to have an "accidental" child just so the bleeding hearts of the world can sleep better at night?

I know that sounds harsh and I don't cheapen life at all, but neither do I cheapen my own. A fetus doesn't make up my mind for me, I do.

no im not telling you to do any thing. who the hell am i. to tell you or any one else to do anything im a nobody. and i dont know about it knowing this or that creamy lady. hell i only posted this cause a freind asked me to post this on the net. i promised to post this so i did. these are not my beleifs. they are my freinds and my freinds only. im not pro choice and im not pro life. the way i feel is its up to the mother if she keeps the baby or not. im sorry iris and creamylady if this upset you. cause i dident mean any harm. please forgive me please im beggin you. once again i am sorry from the bottom of my heart. i truly am. ;(

 

[CreamyLady]

I'm sorry, too, for going off like that. It is a very controversial topic.

However, I'd ask your friend if he or she is afraid of taking the heat for being anti-abortion. Posting such a thing is almost guaranteed to start a firefight.

 

[Ravenloft]

Now if the circumstances of the conception were beyond the womans control than your arguments are fully understandable but anything less feels like a cop out and a denial of your responcibilities as a grown human being.

 

[stud 3;16]

peace

i know and once again im sorry. i know its a touchy topic. but i promised i would post it. and i dont like to break a promise. my freind will be hearing about this tommorow i promise you that that.

 

[jcgirl]

I just found that so wrong. Made me cry. I cant believe I actually read the entire post. I wasnt expecting that.

 

[Persephone]

WTF???

Apparently I can't even go a site featuring freaking PORNOGRAPHY (Excuse me: Erotic Literatute), without the Right Wing, Right To Life idiots trying to preach to me!!!

I know this issue has no gray areas. We all have the right to our own opinions, yadda, yadda, yadda, so here's mine:

That driveling, saccharine little sermonizing peice of prose
sucks.

 

[LAVA GODDESSS]

If you are woman enough to have sex. YOu are woman enough to afford a baby.

GOOD FOR YOU. GREAT CHOICE TO KILL a baby that can't speak. WAY TO GO. WOW WHAT A GREAT IDEA. SO the baby isn't developed completely. Neither is a mentally retarded child. Maybe you should put it out of their misery cause HEY THEY CAN'T OBJECT.

It is murder. no matter how tiny.

No matter how small. It is the same as killing a premature baby. Would you stab a 6 month old baby who was born premature? NOOOOOOO. What is the difference in killing that baby in your womb.

Gross. Sickening. Morbid, heartless.

 

[Ravenloft]

Back bone much Stud? Stand behind your words or if they were your friends words... MAKE THEM STAND BEHIND THEM ON THIER FUCKING OWN!!! If you don't want the heat for them...

Jcgirl, it was ment to draw a tear, thats the only reason it was written... I assure you.

Persephone, I hear you suck to... But good! Put your lips to the test already! And say what you really want to say!!!

Sheesh!

 

[Siren]

Just what we need another divisive controversial subject

 

[Bahamut]

Well, at least there is one less annoying, whining, brat in the world.

~Cyan~

 

[Persephone]

Lava G...

It sounds like you want to punish a woman who accidently conceives by forceing her to have the child. I'm sure this portends wonderfully for that child. Also for the children of rape or incest victims. Every child should be a wanted child. Every child deserves love. No woman deserves to have to carry and birth an unwanted child.

There are worse fates than to be ABORTED. Look around at all the beaten, abused, neglected, unloved children out there. That's the real horror, IMO.

 

[Angel]

If you are woman enough to have sex. YOu are woman enough to afford a baby.

GOOD FOR YOU. GREAT CHOICE TO KILL a baby that can't speak. WAY TO GO. WOW WHAT A GREAT IDEA. SO the baby isn't developed completely. Neither is a mentally retarded child. Maybe you should put it out of their misery cause HEY THEY CAN'T OBJECT.

It is murder. no matter how tiny.

No matter how small. It is the same as killing a premature baby. Would you stab a 6 month old baby who was born premature? NOOOOOOO. What is the difference in killing that baby in your womb.

Gross. Sickening. Morbid, heartless.

Get raped and get pregnant. See if you still feel that way.

 

[Xander]

My 2 cents.

I firmly believe that it's the womans choice. No matter what!!

 

[Laurel]

What I don't get is this...

How did the fetus learn to write? Who smuggled in that tiny journal for it to write in? How did it write after it was dead? Who was the doctor mucking around in some lady's cervix when suddenly, "Hello! What's this!? A diary?!" These are the questions I want answered.

 

[TN_Vixen]

OH PLEASE...

Now if the circumstances of the conception were beyond the womans control than your arguments are fully understandable but anything less feels like a cop out and a denial of your responcibilities as a grown human being.

if the circumstances were beyond the 'WOMAN'S' control? I thought it took two to tango sugarpie.

And listen, slowing down doesn't stop a defective condom from breaking. I thought you had more sense than that.

Men fucking kill me. If they were the ones who got pregnant from a sexual encounter - be it rape, incest, pills rendered ineffective due to antibiotics, being 15 and uneducated, ripped condoms or whatever method... abortion wouldn't even be debatable. There would be drive-through clinics.

Your callousness makes me ill.

 

[insideShiraz]

Diary of an unborn child...

Pulled the plug on me, eh? Why I oughta'...

Well, at least I don't have to go through the pain and humiliation of being raised by so-called perveyors of knowledge and truth...Dogma is the stuff of Religion...

 

[Siren]

See what I mean?

 

[TN_Vixen]

Why Siren?

I didn't call him a neaderthal-thinking-brainless-right-to-lifer-typical half-wit-illogical-cumsucker

Now did I?