Diabetes

[ShyGuy68]

I got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes about ½ a year ago, and was just wondering if there are others here with diabetes?

This week I'm attenting a course at the hospital here in my city (I'm very happy that we have free health care in Denmark), and are learning a lot about diabetes. I've also started to measure my blood sugar levels 7 times a day this week, which is quite interesting, since they seem to go up and down all the time.

I will admit that I've been bad at keeping away from sugar up until now, but since I started this, and have started to learn how to eat right, and are following it, I haven't had the urge for sugar at all. But I have the feeling it might come at some point, and I just hope I'll be able to resisit it then.

 

[Vixandra]

7 times A DAY?!? That doesn't sound right at all unless you're in a crisis point in your diabetes managment and if so, you need to be in the hospital.

Yeah, I know, American standard of care, but still... doesn't sound right at all.

I do a good deal of the diabetic teaching for the unit I work on and I've not yet seen a patient sent home with 7.
Unless you perhaps eat 6 times a day with one before bedtime, guess that'd work. But most people don't do that.

 

[Betticus]

If he just started to measure it maybe they just want to get him used to the way his blood sugar fluctuates through the day. Getting to know your own body kind of thing.

Isn't type two where you have to inject insulin? Type II adult onset diabetes?

 

[ShyGuy68]

If he just started to measure it maybe they just want to get him used to the way his blood sugar fluctuates through the day. Getting to know your own body kind of thing.

You are right about this. It's only for this week, afterwards it will be only 4 times a day, and not on a daily basis either.

Isn't type two where you have to inject insulin? Type II adult onset diabetes?

In Denmark you treat type 2 in 3 different ways, depending on your bloodsugar levels, because your body is still producing insulin, but it's just not at good.

1. Diet only
2. Pills
3. Inject insulin

I'm on the pill stade, and hope to be able to keep it that way in many years.

 

[graceanne]

If he just started to measure it maybe they just want to get him used to the way his blood sugar fluctuates through the day. Getting to know your own body kind of thing.

Isn't type two where you have to inject insulin? Type II adult onset diabetes?

I'm type two diabetic. Some type two's take insulin, some don't.

Hey, shy guy, check out these links. They're sites that list yummy recipes that are good for diabetics. Also, if the sugar is really hard, you can have splenda. You can have all the splenda you want, and you can cook with it. So you, or someone else, could make you something sweet to eat. Plus most health food stores have low carb candy and stuff.

http://cldia.allrecipes.com/

http://www.fabulousfoods.com/features/diabetic/diabrecipes.html

http://diabeticgourmet.com/

http://www.capcomarketing.com/news/11-25-01b.shtml

Good luck.

 

[dolf]

totally off topic here but....
what you posted on Denmark's rescuing of their Jews was fascinating! I'd never heard about it before, ty for the education.
xx

 

[ShyGuy68]

Hey, shy guy, check out these links. They're sites that list yummy recipes that are good for diabetics. Also, if the sugar is really hard, you can have splenda. You can have all the splenda you want, and you can cook with it. So you, or someone else, could make you something sweet to eat. Plus most health food stores have low carb candy and stuff.

Good luck.

Thanks for the links graceanne . I've heard about splena, but we don't get it over here, but there are other substitutes that we can use instead.

I'll be checking out the links for sure!

 

[ShyGuy68]

totally off topic here but....
what you posted on Denmark's rescuing of their Jews was fascinating! I'd never heard about it before, ty for the education.
xx

You're welcome. It was indeed one of Denmarks prouder moments, of which I was also surprised to learn some years ago.

 

[graceanne]

Well, that sucks. Can you order it online? The link is www.splenda.com.

 

[Vixandra]

Okay that makes more sense.
Pill form of treatment is far preferable to injection, hands down. Best to keep your sugar in check now then have to pay the steep price later.


Oh- for cooking with Splenda or other sugar-substitutes, I like to use a teaspoon of lemon juice per cup of substitute (or the amount of sugar you're subing for). Helps take out some of that odd aftertaste that many of the sugar-subs leave behind.

 

[graceanne]

Okay that makes more sense.
Pill form of treatment is far preferable to injection, hands down. Best to keep your sugar in check now then have to pay the steep price later.


Oh- for cooking with Splenda or other sugar-substitutes, I like to use a teaspoon of lemon juice per cup of substitute (or the amount of sugar you're subing for). Helps take out some of that odd aftertaste that many of the sugar-subs leave behind.

Cool, I'm going to have to try that.

 

[snowy ciara]

hugs for the ouchie finger (or where ever you stab yourself to check) peoples

You know, a healthy attitude helps with chronic illnesses, too. It's good to see that you guys handle things with grace and humor and such. Though it does give "needleplay" a whole new millieu!

 

[Bandit58]

hugs for the ouchie finger (or where ever you stab yourself to check) peoples

You know, a healthy attitude helps with chronic illnesses, too. It's good to see that you guys handle things with grace and humor and such. Though it does give "needleplay" a whole new millieu!

Master accuses me of loving to stick needles in His finger (getting my own back lol)

*And sometimes I give him His insulin in His butt cheek*

 

[graceanne]

hugs for the ouchie finger (or where ever you stab yourself to check) peoples

You know, a healthy attitude helps with chronic illnesses, too. It's good to see that you guys handle things with grace and humor and such. Though it does give "needleplay" a whole new millieu!

Actually, K has me spend 10 minutes every day meditating, and 'visualizing' myself healthy. I've only been doing it for a bit, so I don't know if it's gonna help, but he read somewhere that that can be very helpful for people who are chronically ill.

 

[snowy ciara]

giggling at Bandit I'm sure you're very gentle with him.. After all, the hand the wields the flogger...

Grace, have you noticed if the meditation helps your levels? (Just curious, y'see..)

 

[graceanne]

giggling at Bandit I'm sure you're very gentle with him.. After all, the hand the wields the flogger...

Grace, have you noticed if the meditation helps your levels? (Just curious, y'see..)

Not yet, I've only been doing it for a bit. A few days to exact. And to tell the truth, I'm concentrating on the crohns more than the diabetes. The diabetes is pretty easy to control. I eat what I'm supposed to, I'm fine. If I don't, I'm not.
But the Crohns is harder to control, and is therefor more frusterating. I can do everything right, and still get sick. For one thing Crohns is a stress related disease, I get stressed and I get sick. The more stressed I am, the sicker I get. And I'm really stressed out now, partly about my CD. It's a nasty cycle. I start to get sick, and I stress, so I get sicker, and I stress out more, etc.

 

[graceanne]

Well, I just wanted to say that I'm doing better today. I've been doing that visualization thing for I think 3 days now, and last night I was only up once bleeding and with cramps, and today I'm feeling better, too. So maybe their's something to it. I'm gonna keep doing it and see what happens.

 

[Merelan]

I know what Shyguy meditates on though... wink.

I am so proud of him. he had better take care of himself or I will switch sides and get fierce and wild!

 

[ShyGuy68]

After 5 days of learning about type 2 diabetes, and measuring my levels 7 times a day, I'm done with it. It was quite interesting to see how ones levels change during the day, and what have influence on them. My average levels also dropped during the week, and now the challenge is to get them to drop a bit more, and then to keep them there, both with the help of eating better, and taking my medicine as well. In the future I won't measure my levels every day, and when I do, it's only 4 times a day, so my fingertips will get spared a bit.

I know what Shyguy meditates on though... wink.

I am so proud of him. he had better take care of himself or I will switch sides and get fierce and wild!

Hmm maybe it's worth it, just to make you get over here and get fierce and wild with me!

 

[Bandit58]

It was interesting when I first came to Australia to visit Master. He has had diabetes for 30 years (diagnosed at 21). He had been perfectly ok until I arrived, and then His sugar levels kept dropping like crazy. He had 4 episodes in 3 days, One of which I had to call the ambulance for

The only reason we could put it down to was emotional.....He was too happy

 

[graceanne]

Excercise will also help you keep your sugar levels even. You should join us over in RJMasters Master Fitness.

 

[Phalenopsis]

And here's a little bright hope for those that are insulin dependent or may become so. Currently in the US there is late stage research being done on an indwelling glucose sensor. It is a fine (hair like) sensor that would be embedded under the skin. There is an unattached, pocket-sized unit that gives a read out of the current glucose level (as long as it is within about 10 feet of the sensor) and can be hooked into a computer for a print out of the readings over time. This allows a constant state of monitoring without all the pin pricks. It would allow for much tighter, moment by moment glucose control. They are thinking that in the not too distant future this device could be coupled with the already available insulin pumps to act much like an artificial pancreas.

 

[FungiUg]

what you posted on Denmark's rescuing of their Jews was fascinating! I'd never heard about it before, ty for the education.

It's kinda sad -- I think more people know about the French Resistance. But I have a great deal of respect for the Danes for how they rescued Jews through the Nazi occupation. They are an incredibly moral and brave people.

Of course, they also have an interesting view of pornography. I remember walking into a store in Copenhagen that sold comics to kids -- and the store was full of kids. But some of those comics were, well, eye opening! It's just a pity I can't read Danish... although I could certainly admire the pictures!

 

[ShyGuy68]

Excercise will also help you keep your sugar levels even. You should join us over in RJMasters Master Fitness.

That's one of the things we got demonstrated during the 5 days at the hospital as well.

 

[rozezwild]

That's one of the things we got demonstrated during the 5 days at the hospital as well.

Just a FYI there is something out there called an Insulin pump and it injects a constant stream of insulin into your system via a hose that is attached to your side ( i learned of this with ex and he has one) it can me seen at

www.medtronic.com

and click on the insulin pump to see it

Just thought you all would like to know about it that is totally insulin dependant and are sticking yourselves ( counting injections) over 15 times a day

there are stipulations to getting them and you can go over them with your doctor to see if you are eligable and insurance will pay for it

We fought for a year to get it-- the insurance will send you to a million specialists and classes but in the long run if your sugars are still high it is worth it

If you need anything or more info let me know with a PM and i will try and get it to you