Destroy the Racist Kellog Corporation! NOW!

[hobbit.]

Kellog corp are racist!

https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/img/large/BC0019.jpg

https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/img/large/QPQ070.jpg

Racists bastards! so rice krispies are pure white? yet cocopops are marketed by a monkey? racist bastards!

 

[Lazaran]

Kellog corp are racist!

https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/img/large/BC0019.jpg

https://www.britishcornershop.co.uk/img/large/QPQ070.jpg

Racists bastards! so rice krispies are pure white? yet cocopops are marketed by a monkey? racist bastards!

I'm not sure you intended to do it, but that is a classic example of how institutional racism works. Unconscious bias is everywhere in society; especially in advertising and media.

 

[hobbit.]

I'm not sure you intended to do it, but that is a classic example of how institutional racism works. Unconscious bias is everywhere in society; especially in advertising and media.

it was intentional - its been around for years - but no one picked it up until now?

 

[stickygirl]

But I prefer Coco-pops. Does that mean I have to like BBC too?

 

[FlowersForFun]

I'm not sure you intended to do it, but that is a classic example of how institutional racism works. Unconscious bias is everywhere in society; especially in advertising and media.

That's not institutional racism.

It could be unconscious bias, but that's not institutional racism either.

Segregated service/services and double standards along racial lines..... among other things was institutional racism.

Institutional racism (also known as systemic racism) is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

 

[Lazaran]

it was intentional - its been around for years - but no one picked it up until now?

I meant,.....Did you intentionally mean to highlight institutional racism in advertising and other forms of media???? It may not have even consciously occurred to the people who designed the cereal packaging that they were showing bias. Then again, maybe it did.

 

[Lazaran]

That's not institutional racism.

It could be unconscious bias, but that's not institutional racism either.

Segregated service/services and double standards along racial lines..... among other things was institutional racism.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

Unconscious bias is one of the main pillars of institutional or systemic racism.

 

[FlowersForFun]

Unconscious bias is one of the main pillars of institutional or systemic racism.

Yes but that doesn't make all unconscious bias institutional racism.

Just like some racist asshole saying some racist shit, is conscious/intentional bias and overt racism, but it's still not institutional racism.

Jim Crow was institutional racism, segregated military and other public services was institutional racism.

Unconscious bias on the cover of a cereal box?? Not even in the same ball park.

 

[jaF0]

OK, now do Count Chocula and Lucky Charms.

Oh, and BooBerry. And don't forget CoCoa Puffs.

 

[Lazaran]

Yes but that doesn't make all unconscious bias institutional racism.

Just like some racist asshole saying some racist shit, is conscious/intentional bias and racism, but it's still not institutional racism.

Jim Crow was institutional racism, segregated military and other public services was institutional racism.

Unconscious bias on the cover of a cereal box?? Not even in the same ball park.

Where unconscious bias intersects with institutional racism is in areas where that unconscious bias can lead to a negative outcome for the person on the other end of it.

I can't imagine you don't understand the concept that if all the cops are white, and unconscious bias is real, then black people are likely to be treated worse. Same goes for when all teachers are white, all bankers are white, all politicians are white, all doctors are white, etc,etc. Of course ALL is an extreme example, but if there is even a 75% majority of people of the same race making decisions that could negatively impact a member of another races life, that is enough to lead to many of the problems we see in society today.

There actually was a time not that long ago when white people did make nearly 100% of the decisions in society. Unconscious bias and outright discrimination can't be ignored as one of the main reasons white Americans have on average 10 times the wealth of black Americans.

I don't even want to start to drill down into gender bias and discrimination.
White guys like me really start to look privileged when that issue is closely examined along with racial bias and discrimination.

 

[FataMorgana]

Rice Krispies are marketed by three midgets, Lace went for the job but didn't even get to interview stage.

MLM

 

[Lazaran]

OK, now do Count Chocula and Lucky Charms.

Oh, and BooBerry. And don't forget CoCoa Puffs.

I think the monkey on the box was the issue. Oddly enough, Count Choculas skin color has changed over the years. He used to be brown skinned, but seems to have lightened over the years.

The famous Corn Pop fiasco is a better example. The one brown corn kernel on the box was depicted as a janitor, while all the other yellow kernels were just playing games.

Was that umconscioous bias or a conscious racist Easter egg they thought no one would notice??

 

[stickygirl]

Rice Krispies are marketed by three midgets, Lace went for the job but didn't even get to interview stage.

MLM

That's unfair Fata - I thought you were bigger than that

 

[BrokenBarbie]

I’m a Cocoa Pebbles kind of girl...

 

[FataMorgana]

That's unfair Fata - I thought you were bigger than that

Bigger than Lance? Isn't everybody?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Rice Krispies are marketed by three midgets, Lace went for the job but didn't even get to interview stage.

MLM

That's unfair Fata - I thought you were bigger than that

Bigger than Lance? Isn't everybody?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/26/e4/9726e46ee16302773d33f57525831885.gif

Beat me to it!

 

[FlowersForFun]

Where unconscious bias intersects with institutional racism is in areas where that unconscious bias can lead to a negative outcome for the person on the other end of it.

Yes cops, judges and people in positions of authority.

I understand the argument for that and reject it, because it's the individual, not the system/institution that is biased/racist.

Plenty of cops/judges out there do a fine job at applying the law in an impartial, by the book manner. Yes...even white ones.

I can't imagine you don't understand the concept that if all the cops are white, and unconscious bias is real, then black people are likely to be treated worse. Same goes for when all teachers are white, all bankers are white, all politicians are white, all doctors are white, etc,etc. Of course ALL is an extreme example, but if there is even a 75% majority of people of the same race making decisions that could negatively impact a member of another races life, that is enough to lead to many of the problems we see in society today.

There actually was a time not that long ago when white people did make nearly 100% of the decisions in society. Unconscious bias and outright discrimination can't be ignored as one of the main reasons white Americans have on average 10 times the wealth of black Americans.

Of course it exist but it's not institutional.

And even when there is an argument that it is, such as with cops/judges....it's on an individual basis, not a systemic/institutional basis.

I don't even want to start to drill down into gender bias and discrimination.
White guys like me really start to look privileged when that issue is closely examined along with racial bias and discrimination.

You're not privileged.

You have the exact same rights and protections as everyone else.

The only place there is "male" privilege is in certain high end physical performance arenas where your male physiology gives you an advantage. UFC, spec-ops, sports.....otherwise if you're part of the 99.9%, you have no privilege.

 

[bestone4ever]

That's not institutional racism.

It could be unconscious bias, but that's not institutional racism either.

Segregated service/services and double standards along racial lines..... among other things was institutional racism.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

But, but, but those are the things that LEAD to institutional racism!

/FlowersForTheDumb

 

[Mal_Huevo]

Who you callin' crackle?

 

[cinnefille]

that is a classic example of how institutional racism works.

Unconscious bias is everywhere in society; especially in advertising and media.

It may not have even consciously occurred to the people who designed the cereal packaging that they were showing bias.

Then again, maybe it did.

dude.

 

[subliminalmassage]

Yes cops, judges and people in positions of authority.

I understand the argument for that and reject it, because it's the individual, not the system/institution that is biased/racist.

Plenty of cops/judges out there do a fine job at applying the law in an impartial, by the book manner. Yes...even white ones.



Of course it exist but it's not institutional.

And even when there is an argument that it is, such as with cops/judges....it's on an individual basis, not a systemic/institutional basis.



You're not privileged.

You have the exact same rights and protections as everyone else.

The only place there is "male" privilege is in certain high end physical performance arenas where your male physiology gives you an advantage. UFC, spec-ops, sports.....otherwise if you're part of the 99.9%, you have no privilege.

'You have the exact same rights and protections as everyone else.'

Imagine we're playing Monopoly - you, me and my two friends. Friend A agrees to be the banker and adjudicate any rules questions. To make it fair, we agree that position will rotate in turn order.

Everyone plays by the rules, but me and my friends get to decide how those rules are enforced (or not), when to ignore certain penalties etc, when the bank provides a bailout, and when the defaulting player is forced to sell his properties.

Do you think you'd have a fair chance of winning such a game? Do you think you'd feel you'd been treated fairly at the end?

As a white man i get loads of cool (and uncool) free stuff, and don't have to pay the same penalties as PoC if I mess up. In some cases these privileges should be extended to everyone. In others, they should be abolished entirely.

I can send you a good essay on the subject if you're interested? It's about a woman's privilege rather than a man's, but the principle is the same.