Depression

[Orlanth]

How can you deal with depression, with out meducation or going to a head doctor?

 

[MissTaken]

It depends on what type of depression it is and what is the catalyst?

If it is something chemical, medication can be quite helpful even in the short term while you learn new coping skills and to recognize the symptoms.

If is situational, the only way to deal with it is to do something about what it is that is making you depressed. Now, that is a double edged sword, because a symptom of depression is a lack of energy and motivation to make changes, while the cure could be to make those changes.

However, the depressed person has ever had thoughts of self harm, suicide etc. They must see a doctor.

Best wishes to you or whomever you are speaking about.

Miss T

 

[tonyzee23]

How can you deal with depression, with out meducation or going to a head doctor?

if you are worried about it see a doc, if you do not wish to (I AM NOT A DOCTOR) look up and read up on St. John's Wort not prozac or anthing like that, it's holyopathic and it has been seen to help very mild to mild cases of Depression. but i would reccomend seeing someone if you worried about it. not sure if that is what you meant though.

 

[MissTaken]

Yes, I forgot about St John's Wort. If you are on any other meds, be careful.

Also, basic lifestyle changes can help. Excercise, stop using alcohol (if you do), get a good night's sleep and taking vitamins.


All those things are conducive to a healthy attitude as well.

 

[Carp]

How can you deal with depression, with out meducation or going to a head doctor?

What follows is my personal opinion, derived from a number of years working in the mental helath field, and personal experience with depression.

I assume that you are the depressed person. A little more info about you would be helpful. In the abscence of that, let me assume that this is situational, not chronic. If you suffer from chronic depression, therapy and medication may be your only path to freeing yourself from depression.

If you are determined to deal with depression without professional help, you have to do things that are very difficult for a depressed person to do. You have to surround yourself with people who have a positive attitude toward you. Even more important, you have to make every effort to keep a positive attitude about yourself. We become what we tell ourselves we are. Your self messages should e positive ones- Take some time to put together some self-scripts that are positive about you. If you can, share them with close friends and ask them to reinforce those self-scripts with you.


These self-scripts could be somthing like "I am a strong, capable, competant person. I have friends and family that care about me and love me for who I am". Obviously, you woould need to personalize this.

Good luck, and there are competant and caring therapists out there.

 

[cindylouwho64]

Take care of yourself and do something nice for yourself.

Go buy that new book and curl up with it somewhere outside. Buy that new CD and cruise just listening .... you get the idea. Get a massage - that always cheers me up.

If you need to just talk to a sympathetic ear - pm me.

 

[Orlanth]

This person has been in a bad depression for 7 years now. He has thought of suicide a lot, and has attempted it a number of times, which his best friend stopped him.

He was coming out of it, but now he may lose his best friend; putting him into a depression again.

There is a lot of other things happening to him, which add to it.

 

[Arden]

How can you deal with depression, with out meducation or going to a head doctor?

Forget the St. John's Wort... proven to not be what they once thought it was.

Highly suggest going to a doctor to determine the cause...

Very important note: Wellbutrin, a common antidepressant, has the added benefit of prolonging umm... sexual function.

Do an internet search for the drug...

 

[Orlanth]

Re: Re: Depression

Forget the St. John's Wort... proven to not be what they once thought it was.

Highly suggest going to a doctor to determine the cause...

Very important note: Wellbutrin, a common antidepressant, has the added benefit of prolonging umm... sexual function.

Do an internet search for the drug...

He doesn't want to take any form of antidepressants.

andhe wants to avoid going to a doctor.

 

[mbb308]

This person has been in a bad depression for 7 years now. He has thought of suicide a lot, and has attempted it a number of times, which his best friend stopped him.

He was coming out of it, but now he may lose his best friend; putting him into a depression again.

There is a lot of other things happening to him, which add to it.

If this person has been in a funk for seven years and has attempted suicide more than once, I sincerely doubt that something simple is going to save the day. Sounds like a job for Head Shrinker Man. A bit of inpatient may be in order, too, and medication of some sort is almost a certainty.

My funks last weeks, not years, which is why I don't do the medico routine. People I know who have fought it off for years have always wound up needing professional help.

Best of luck to your friend.

 

[Orlanth]

Any other veiws and/or opinions?

 

[Batch]

Any other veiws and/or opinions?

just a small bit from me..
I have spent most of my life depressed..
I have been seeing Head Shrinkers fr well on 25 years, on and off...
if I hadn't sought help I would be dead, from either the overdose or the cut wrists.......that was a long time ago..in high school
your friend needs to seek the help of a professional so that the case can be found, whether an imbalance or some great sadness in life....
very important.....
It has helped me to stay alive to find the cause of my depression...
and now I am most of time not too terribly sad
nor am I too terriably happy but it is my way to be quiet...
but your friend needs to see a Head Shrink, okay, Luv?

 

[zipman]

This person has been in a bad depression for 7 years now. He has thought of suicide a lot, and has attempted it a number of times, which his best friend stopped him.

He was coming out of it, but now he may lose his best friend; putting him into a depression again.

There is a lot of other things happening to him, which add to it.

Orlanth,

I am not a Doctor, but I have had a lot of experience with depression. While I can appreciate the fact that this person does not want to be on medication or see a doctor, from what you have said, they are in desperate need of it.

7 years is an extremely long time to be in depression and suicidal thougths are extremely serious. There is no quick fix or simple thing to do that anyone is going to post here that will likely help this person. Often, people do not want to help themselves out of a situation like this, because no matter how depressed or uncomfortable they are, it is familiar to them. The fear of what a doctor will say, or the stigma that some people place on being medicated often prevents their seeking help.

Good luck!

 

[Orlanth]

I am keping every ones veiws and/or opinions in mind BTW, so don't think I am ignoring who I don't reply to.

I am just getting a number of veiws and opinions from diffrent people from diffrent veiws, which is helping me.

This friend, had a large problem with doctors, and they almost killed him... He knows it was an accident. But still, he doesn't like or trust doctors anymore.

This problem pretty much destroyedhis life, and has not gotten over that.

Thatis the main part of it, which 90% of his other issues come from... He knows thats the caurse of his depression.

He has been offered antidepressants before, but turns them down. He has also turned down doctors... He did try once, but it got no where.
He doesn't really like to talk about his problems, as it brings up bad memories, and he gets even more depressed.

He has recently been on top ofthe world so to speak, and his life was turning out to be good, then one thing happened, then anotther, and another - putting him back down again.

 

[Batch]

I am keping every ones veiws and/or opinions in mind BTW, so don't think I am ignoring who I don't reply to.

I am just getting a number of veiws and opinions from diffrent people from diffrent veiws, which is helping me.

This friend, had a large problem with doctors, and they almost killed him... He knows it was an accident. But still, he doesn't like or trust doctors anymore.

This problem pretty much destroyedhis life, and has not gotten over that.

Thatis the main part of it, which 90% of his other issues come from... He knows thats the caurse of his depression.

He has been offered antidepressants before, but turns them down. He has also turned down doctors... He did try once, but it got no where.
He doesn't really like to talk about his problems, as it brings up bad memories, and he gets even more depressed.

He has recently been on top ofthe world so to speak, and his life was turning out to be good, then one thing happened, then anotther, and another - putting him back down again.

my depression came from being repeatedly raped by my Grandfather through out much of my childhood.......
anything can be talked about and brought out into the light of day....

 

[MissTaken]

He sounds manic, Orlanth.

Periods of highs, nearing a euphoria to a crash into the lows.


He needs treatment.

IF he is a threat to himself or others, he may well be able to hospitalized for a few days against his will.

In the event that he ever seeks and accepts treatment, he is more likely to thank whomever took a strong stance with him.

Depression is as if one is seeing the world through cracked lenses. A depressed person often doesn't realize the ramifications of his being depressed until he has successfully engaged in treatment.

Medication isn't always the long term solution. Even in the short term, clear vision can lead him onto a better path.

They also have medication that isn't to be taken everyday. It comes in the form of a shot every month. That is great because it buys some time for the depressed person to rethink their life and views and make some good plans, as well as to beneift from therapy or explore their depression on their own.

I am concerned, hence I ramble.

Take care and best wishes to you and your friend

 

[Orlanth]

He sounds manic, Orlanth.

Periods of highs, nearing a euphoria to a crash into the lows.


He needs treatment.

IF he is a threat to himself or others, he may well be able to hospitalized for a few days against his will.

In the event that he ever seeks and accepts treatment, he is more likely to thank whomever took a strong stance with him.

Depression is as if one is seeing the world through cracked lenses. A depressed person often doesn't realize the ramifications of his being depressed until he has successfully engaged in treatment.

Medication isn't always the long term solution. Even in the short term, clear vision can lead him onto a better path.

They also have medication that isn't to be taken everyday. It comes in the form of a shot every month. That is great because it buys some time for the depressed person to rethink their life and views and make some good plans, as well as to beneift from therapy or explore their depression on their own.

I am concerned, hence I ramble.

Take care and best wishes to you and your friend

He is no threat to anyone, he wouldn'tt hur a soul...He also now knows suicide isn't the answer, and it will have an effect on othes; and he would not do that. He is to kind of person.

I am off to bed, I will be on to explain a bit better in or so hours.

 

[Arden]

Re: Re: Re: Depression

He doesn't want to take any form of antidepressants.

andhe wants to avoid going to a doctor.

The problem with avoiding the doctor is that depression can be caused by other medical conditions, and it's really important to make sure these other concerns be treated... sometimes with non-antidepressant med's.

 

[~Dream~]

on the subject of depression..

Orlanth,

I am not a Doctor, but I have had a lot of experience with depression. While I can appreciate the fact that this person does not want to be on medication or see a doctor, from what you have said, they are in desperate need of it.

7 years is an extremely long time to be in depression and suicidal thougths are extremely serious. There is no quick fix or simple thing to do that anyone is going to post here that will likely help this person. Often, people do not want to help themselves out of a situation like this, because no matter how depressed or uncomfortable they are, it is familiar to them. The fear of what a doctor will say, or the stigma that some people place on being medicated often prevents their seeking help.

Good luck!

I totally agree with the above post..I am bi-polar and on medication(Depakote) for it and it's really no big deal ..I can notice however a change in me if I dont take my meds, as do others around me.
I highly respect your friend's right to not be medicated..however suicidal thoghts are to be taken VERY VERY seriously..
My own son attempted suicide 3 times and finally sought help he needed and DESERVED...
I would like to suggest the things Miss T suggested and I Strongly
suggest even prayer as it has worked miracles for me ,personally
your friend,shall be added to mine,ORLANTH ..TY

 

[artful]

How can you deal with depression, with out meducation or going to a head doctor?

I agree with Zip, MissT, Dream and others. First,...it needs to be diagnosed properly by a PROFESSIONAL,...and there may NOT be need for medication. There ARE instances where that would not be the treatment advised. (Just my .02 cents)

 

[mbb308]

I agree with MissTaken - she can be prefound. This definitely sounds like manic/depression, and it is a job for the pros.

I have watched a couple of M/D crashes, and they are quite ugly things.

Most M/D people I know are on one medication, and most are on a simple element which adjusts the brain chemistry and smooths out the lows and the highs. The couple who do not take their meds live from one damned thing to another, and hate Life.

I think it is time for your friend to do the research and find the best doctor possible, seek treatment, and follow the regimine to the letter.

I have those distrust issues - I seek recommendations from other people when I must go - it works.