Demonization of Tea Party makes no sense

[renard_ruse]

Although I have not personally been a supporter of the Tea Party, as I consider it too liberal on social issues, among other factors, I have long considered it a force for good that can only make our society better and improve our political culture. Any group that comes from ordinary citizens to bring positive reforms to the Washington establishment can only be good.

It has never made any sense that some people try to demonize this unarguably positive and cool reformist group of average people. What's even more sad is that some people who claim to be hip and radical "agents of change" would demonize the one group in our system that is trying to bring real change and reform to our country.

I can't understand how a nice group of concerned citizens like the Tea Party can be hated and demonized to such a viscious extent. Its like stomping on a little puppy. It doesn't make sense.

 

[doctor_insanus]

Someone is trying waaaaay too hard.

 

[RobDownSouth]

3/10 trollpoints. You can do much better, Retard.

 

[renard_ruse]

3/10 trollpoints. You can do much better, Retard.

Um, this is a serious thread, dude.

Do you have some problem with the Tea Party, and if so, without C & P's and references to a few nutty people who might claim to be members, explain why. What is so bad about them?

 

[renard_ruse]

It makes me sad the way this group has been treated, even though I'm not a supporter.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The Tea Party forfeited the right to serious discussion a long time ago.

They are the clown princes of American politics, and deserve nothing but contempt for THEIR contempt of American Democracy.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

renard, are you having a bad day? are you running out of material? that was almost jen grade.

 

[RobDownSouth]

It makes me sad the way this group has been treated, even though I'm not a supporter.

Get a puppy.

 

[bronzeage]

Although I have not personally been a supporter of the Tea Party, as I consider it too liberal on social issues, among other factors, I have long considered it a force for good that can only make our society better and improve our political culture. Any group that comes from ordinary citizens to bring positive reforms to the Washington establishment can only be good.

It has never made any sense that some people try to demonize this unarguably positive and cool reformist group of average people. What's even more sad is that some people who claim to be hip and radical "agents of change" would demonize the one group in our system that is trying to bring real change and reform to our country.

I can't understand how a nice group of concerned citizens like the Tea Party can be hated and demonized to such a viscious extent. Its like stomping on a little puppy. It doesn't make sense.

Their idiots. They are negative and totally unaware. They are stooges for a bunch of rich guys who want to preserve class privilege.

Does that clear things up for you?

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

Get a puppy.

good one...really laughing here.

 

[renard_ruse]

Their idiots. They are negative and totally unaware. They are stooges for a bunch of rich guys who want to preserve class privilege.

Does that clear things up for you?

Sorry, no. None of that is even remotely true.

I think you're confused with the Democrat Party today.

 

[bronzeage]

Sorry, no. None of that is even remotely true.

I think you're confused with the Democrat Party today.

It's all true. You make a very poor apologist for the Tea Party.

Threads like this make you look stupider than before, and that is quite an accomplishment.

 

[neci]

 

[KingOrfeo]

Although I have not personally been a supporter of the Tea Party, as I consider it too liberal on social issues . . .

It's more that the TP does not have a lot to say about social issues. At least, not in the Contract from America. Their rally-signs are another matter, of which the less said the better.

. . . among other factors, I have long considered it a force for good that can only make our society better and improve our political culture.

Well, perhaps, but not if it's . . . anything like anything it ever has been from its earliest iterations to the present.

Any group that comes from ordinary citizens to bring positive reforms to the Washington establishment can only be good.

That would include the TP, as well as Martin Luther King, Occupy Wall Street, the Minutemen, the America First Party, the Constitution Party, the Libertarian Party, the Communist Party USA, the Democratic Socialists of America, David Duke, Norman Thomas, Bayard Rustin, Timothy McVeigh, Emperor Norton I, Cesar Chavez, David Koresh, Charlie Manson, Abbie Hoffman, Huey Long, Gus Hall, Willliam Dudley Pelley and his fascist Silver Shirts, the Know-Nothings and the Ku Klux Klan and the Black Panthers and the Weather Underground and the Symbionese Liberation Army and Coxey's Army and the Bonus Army and the Jewish Defense League and the Black Muslims and the White Nationalists and the Regulators and the Molly Maguires and the Wobblies. All of them. Be careful what you wish for.

It has never made any sense that some people try to demonize this unarguably positive and cool reformist group of average people.

Old middle-class white people are not "average."

What's even more sad is that some people who claim to be hip and radical "agents of change" would demonize the one group in our system that is trying to bring real change and reform to our country.

No, this is the one group in our system that is trying to bring real change and reform to our country, and it has very little in common with the TP, which wants only to bring reaction and rollback, and to make the federal government what it was before the Great Society, or even what it was before the New Deal, or even -- in some versions -- what it was before the Civil War. All of that would take America in exactly the wrong direction, and none of it would be any good for America, and in any case, none of it is going to happen in your lifetime nor your grandchildrens'.

I can't understand how a nice group of concerned citizens like the Tea Party can be hated and demonized to such a viscious extent. Its like stomping on a little puppy. It doesn't make sense.

That's because you don't understand traditional Korean cuisine.

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

The interesting thing is I very much doubt any son of a itch who has posted in this thread has a single clue about what the Tea Party was and how it had degenerated into what is has become today.

"Their idiots." Quoted from Bronze. Their is possessive meaning belonging to. They're means they are. Bronze if you are going to opinionated at least be opinionated using proper English.

More about the Tea Party tomorrow if I remember.

 

[renard_ruse]

It's all true. You make a very poor apologist for the Tea Party.

Threads like this make you look stupider than before, and that is quite an accomplishment.

The Tea Party was / is a group of concerned citizens, outside the Beltway, who got involved because they wanted to bring positive change to a broken system. It doesn't need an apologist, there's nothing wrong with it other than the fact its been the target of such an intense demonization campaign.

I challenge those who consider themselves rebels and "change agents" to honestly ask themselves what group is really trying to bring change to Washington? Its certainly not the Obama adminstration, they are business as usual, on steriods.

 

[cjh]

You are either at the tail end of a bell curve or a piece of performance art.

At the end of the day, who cares?

 

[neci]

that was really mean.

 

[Que]

Of course it makes sense.


Its like what lawyers say: "When you have the facts on your side pound the facts; when you don't have the facts on your side pound the table."

Those that vilify the Tea Party, are merely stooping to the only m.o.they know.

Everyone that opposes them is stupid and better yet an unfeeling "hate-monger."

Instead of pointing to actual benefits and successes to society that their plans have brought to fruition, they have a ceaseless campaign of fear.

Each and every constituency they intend to gather into their tent must be made to fear someone outside the tent.

Ergo, anyone that has the gall to point out that the naked Emperor has been spending an awful lot on clothes, is a hatefull, narrow-minded, rascist, ageist, misogynistic, elite, greedy, poo-poo head.

"Best get in the tent before the words of our opponents hurt your widdle feelings...there, there big brother will care for you."

 

[Dazzle1]

The Tea Party forfeited the right to serious discussion a long time ago.

They are the clown princes of American politics, and deserve nothing but contempt for THEIR contempt of American Democracy.

Why

Unlike the OWS they don't enfringe on other's right, break no laws in rallies and are concerned for the country.

Unlike Obama and the Democrats who would compromise but refused to negoiate like the idelogical clowns they are.

 

[PoppingTom]

Although I have not personally been a supporter of the Tea Party,

Hahahahaa

as I consider it too liberal [for explanation: liberal= socialist] on social issues

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I have long considered it a force for good that can only make our society better and improve our political culture.

Yeah man, goverment shutdowns are teh shit, man!

Any group that comes from ordinary citizens to bring positive reforms to the Washington establishment can only be good.

It was Obama who said that, right? He was right.

It has never made any sense that some people try to demonize this unarguably positive and cool reformist group of average people.

It's not demonizing to call them dumb following lemmings.

What's even more sad is that some people who claim to be hip and radical "agents of change" would demonize the one group in our system that is trying to bring real change and reform to our country.

You're talking about the Dems, right?

I can't understand how a nice group of concerned citizens like the Tea Party can be hated....

Telling you the truth is not hate.

 

[Liar]

Although I have not personally been a supporter of the Tea Party, as I consider it too liberal on social issues, among other factors, I have long considered it a force for good that can only make our society better and improve our political culture. Any group that comes from ordinary citizens to bring positive reforms to the Washington establishment can only be good.

If they were a group that comes from ordinary citizens to bring positive reforms to the Washington establishment, that would be good.

But that would require that they act and reflect the sentiments of ordinary citizens. And also suggest and bring forth reforms to the Washington establishment.

They do niether. So far they have only succeeded in fucking up Washington even further, by turning the trench warfare up to 11. It's nothing new though. They're just Gingrich 2.0.

 

[Que]

Hahahahaa




heeheeheeheeheeeeee



Yeah man, goverment shutdowns are teh shit, man!



It was Obama who said that, right? He was right.




It's not demonizing to call them dumb following lemmings.



You're talking about the Dems, right?



Telling you the truth is not hate.

Case in point.

Liberals see no evil in their name calling, to them if you disagree you are self-evidently stupid and beneath contempt.

Their focus is on stated intentiins not results. As long as they "support" gay-rights and universal healthcare and oppose hunger and dead puppies, truth and right is on their side.

It doesn't matter if an objective look at their plan doesn't accomplish thier stated aims...the "support" stuff. So theyre right and you and the koreans wanna kill puppies.

 

[Que]

If they were a group that comes from ordinary citizens to bring positive reforms to the Washington establishment, that would be good.

But that would require that they act and reflect the sentiments of ordinary citizens. And also suggest and bring forth reforms to the Washington establishment.

They do niether. So far they have only succeeded in fucking up Washington even further, by turning the trench warfare up to 11. It's nothing new though. They're just Gingrich 2.0.

They don't reflect the sentiments of ordinary citizens because no one YOU know or would deign to associate with agrees with them, of course.

Brings to mind the flabergasted McGovern supporters. "Nixon COULDN'T have won. No one I KNOW voted for him.

More of the country self identifies as conservative than self identifies as liberal by two to one. Of course those that self identify as neither is a larger group then both of the above.

The problem is the so-called middle includes a very people that genuinely straddle on certain issues, people to the left of liberals, people to the right of conservative, and people that are just completely uninformed and confused or disinterested.

I lean libertarian on social issues, as none of that was or should be the purview of government, and I follow the numbers on economic issues. Which leaves Democrats out because as far as they're concerned there's always another money tree to pluck.

But since they are citizens. And near is I can tell they're ordinary, bordering on plain...dare I say regular middle America. Not sure what your argument is with that statement.

You say they must bring forth reforms to the washington establishment. Why? ALL of Washington is one election from joining the unemployed in america. There point was to tear down Washington establishment. Admittedly it was fairly unsuccessful except for one midterm election. Keep in mind they took down some Republicans as well.

If we still had the united capital S States of little a america the region not the Nation, You liberals could do what you want in California and the eastern seaboard and leave everyone else alone.

 

[PoppingTom]

Liberals see no evil in their name calling, to them if you disagree you are self-evidently stupid and beneath contempt.

Depends on what and how much you disagree.

Their focus is on stated intentiins not results.

What's wrong with that? No results without intensions.

As long as they "support" gay-rights and universal healthcare and oppose hunger and dead puppies, truth and right is on their side.

Every politician supports the will of the people who vote for him. That's not different from teaparty politicians.

It doesn't matter if an objective look at their plan doesn't accomplish thier stated aims...the "support" stuff.

What are you complaining about?