Democrats should fear an Independent Kasich-Hickenlooper ticket in 2020

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Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) and Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper (D) — “the Johns,” as insiders are calling them — have been making a flurry of joint appearances to talk about state-driven improvements to health care. But Axios has learned that their duet is part of an alliance that’s gaining momentum toward a possible joint independent bid for president in 2020, likely with Kasich at the top of the ticket.

So imagine a 2020 ballot that looks something like this: GOP: Trump-Pence... Independent: Kasich-Hickenlooper.... Democrat: Kamala Harris-Sherrod Brown... Green: Winona LaDuke-William Kreml... Libertarian: Austin Peterson-John McAfee

Let’s not forget: Donald Trump was wildly outspent, went through three campaign managers, had a lot of his party stay away from the national convention in Cleveland, outsourced his ground game to the Republican National Committee, kept having disastrous news cycle after another and faced the raging enmity of the national political press throughout the race. And he managed to win 304 electoral votes (with two faithless electors). Now give him the advantage of incumbency (a Rose Garden campaign, etcetera) and recall we’ve reelected four of the last five presidents.

The mission for the Democratic nominee in 2020 is to win the states Hillary won and find another 38 electoral votes. For the sake of argument, assume the independent ticket headed by Kasich wins his home state of Ohio; this leaves Trump with 288 electoral votes, assuming he keeps all the rest of his 2016 states red. But Kasich winning Ohio would keep those 18 electoral votes out of the Democratic nominee’s pile, as well. If Hickenlooper helps the independent ticket carry Colorado, that’s 9 electoral votes that the Democrat will have to make up elsewhere.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...r-independent-kasich-hickenlooper-ticket-2020
 
This is not 1816-1820's Era Of Good Feelings. Dums and Gups will not join together in big kumbayah for The Johns (who will be relentlessly ridiculed). My (likely wrong) predicted options:

* Tromp survives to run in 2020. Dums run Establishment luzer. OR some wild person out-Tromps POTUS and captures the Dums and the WH.
* Tromp is ousted. Pence runs in 2020. Dums still run an Establishment luzer.
* Kim nukes DC while everyone is there. USA starts over.
 
Democrats should fear an Independent Kasich-Hickenlooper ticket in 2020

Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) and Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper (D) — “the Johns,” as insiders are calling them — have been making a flurry of joint appearances to talk about state-driven improvements to health care. But Axios has learned that their duet is part of an alliance that’s gaining momentum toward a possible joint independent bid for president in 2020, likely with Kasich at the top of the ticket.

So imagine a 2020 ballot that looks something like this: GOP: Trump-Pence... Independent: Kasich-Hickenlooper.... Democrat: Kamala Harris-Sherrod Brown... Green: Winona LaDuke-William Kreml... Libertarian: Austin Peterson-John McAfee

Let’s not forget: Donald Trump was wildly outspent, went through three campaign managers, had a lot of his party stay away from the national convention in Cleveland, outsourced his ground game to the Republican National Committee, kept having disastrous news cycle after another and faced the raging enmity of the national political press throughout the race. And he managed to win 304 electoral votes (with two faithless electors). Now give him the advantage of incumbency (a Rose Garden campaign, etcetera) and recall we’ve reelected four of the last five presidents.

The mission for the Democratic nominee in 2020 is to win the states Hillary won and find another 38 electoral votes. For the sake of argument, assume the independent ticket headed by Kasich wins his home state of Ohio; this leaves Trump with 288 electoral votes, assuming he keeps all the rest of his 2016 states red. But Kasich winning Ohio would keep those 18 electoral votes out of the Democratic nominee’s pile, as well. If Hickenlooper helps the independent ticket carry Colorado, that’s 9 electoral votes that the Democrat will have to make up elsewhere.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...r-independent-kasich-hickenlooper-ticket-2020

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I'm pretty sure Gov. Hickenlooper has said he is not going to do this. But lets assume he agrees. Who is at the top of the ticket? Both candidates are firmly establishment in their respective parties. Would either party support such a ticket? What if Bernie runs independant? What if Hillary or Biden runs as a dem? Neither the DNC or RNC is going to allow this to happen.
 
Kasich's a cool guy. Good man.

But, independants will not have money to run. The other two and their pupeteers will crush them.

That's, coz, the people, listen to, ads, that is.

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