Democrats in history - Let's take a look.

[RobDownSouth]

I picture Rob as a guy with maybe a year or less of college forced to drop out for one reason or another and stuck in some low paying service job like a waiter who longs for the time when someone will recognize him for his talent, but growing more scornful every day because no one does. He's got slightly long hair that is a little ragged, sometimes he skips shaving for a couple days and he's irritated that he's having a difficult time earning enough to even enjoy the least little leisure activities and it bothers him that some people can jet off to the carribbean for a couple days when he worries whether he can afford to put enough gas in the car. He's strongly in the corner of "government control" because he feels that if people of like-mindedness take over the government they'll recognize his long-standing dedication to the cause of the proletariat and that they'll give him a good job, maybe even a management job and he can "get back" at all those people who don't fawn over him now and, in fact, don't even notice he's alive other than to ask him to fetch them another iced tea.

How close am I?

As is usually the case, your fantasies have no basis in reality.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Hey UD...just wondering...why do you come to Literotica? Do you ever look at the naked women on AmPics ?
Have you ever looked at the Cocksuckers, Pop It In Yank It Out Repeat, Can I give You A Hand or other similar threads found on the GB or do you only frequent political threads?
I mean...gaw-damn man...why come to a porn board to only bitch bitch bitch ?

Free country numbnuts. It's an unmoderated general discussion board. meaning, talk about whatever the fuck you want to here.

If your only interest is looking at porn why are you not exclusively in AmPics? This is the General Board, a place to talk about anything not covered in the other forums here at Lit.

Now that you mention it there are specific forums for threads like those you mentioned, like AMPics. A better question is why are THEY here and not there where they arguably belong.

Last I checked there is no politics only forum.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

I almost always avoid any interaction with UD for this very reason. I often picture him sitting at a computer in some institution with bars on the windows on locks on the door while the attendants in the other room say "At least he's quiet while he's focusing on that computer".

Jesus, I don't think you could possibly be any more clueless if you tried.

 

[Peregrinator]

"I'm not going to use the federal government's authority deliberately to circumvent the natural inclination of people to live in ethnically homogeneous neighborhoods. . . . I have nothing against a community that's made up of people who are Polish or Czechoslovakian or French-Canadian or blacks who are trying to maintain the ethnic purity of their neighborhoods."

--Jimmy Carter, 1976
President, 1977-81
Winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, 2002

I'm not sure what's wrong with this. It reads a lot like Reagan to me.

 

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[Peregrinator]

Prove it.

You're asking me to prove that I don't see what's wrong with the quote, or to prove that it reminds me of Reagan?

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" ~RR, not that you needed the citation.

Which did you want proved? They both read like, "I don't think the federal government should tell people where to live or how to choose neighbors."

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

I'm not sure what's wrong with this. It reads a lot like Reagan to me.

The only references I can find for that quote all refer to a WSJ article by Bruce Bartlett, a well known conservative opinion columnist and domestic policy advisor to Ronald Reagan and later a treasury official under George H.W. Bush.

It appears, from the ... in the middle to be two partial quotes taken out of context with no reference to where exactly they came from other than sometime in 1976..

I'm sure a conservative opinion columnist wouldn't do his best to put the statements in the worst possible light.

 

[Peregrinator]

The only references I can find for that quote all refer to a WSJ article by Bruce Bartlett, a well known conservative opinion columnist and domestic policy advisor to Ronald Reagan and later a treasury official under George H.W. Bush.

It appears, from the ... in the middle to be two partial quotes taken out of context with no reference to where exactly they came from other than sometime in 1976..

I'm sure a conservative opinion columnist wouldn't do his best to put the statements in the worst possible light.

Interesting...Carter didn't actually say that, exactly, then. Yet it's somehow supposed to make him look bad? Like I said above, it reads to me that all he was saying is, "Live in whatever neighborhood you want. The Fed has no business breaking up neighborhoods for the purpose of racial...I don't know what the word would be...desegregation?"

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Interesting...Carter didn't actually say that, exactly, then. Yet it's somehow supposed to make him look bad? Like I said above, it reads to me that all he was saying is, "Live in whatever neighborhood you want. The Fed has no business breaking up neighborhoods for the purpose of racial...I don't know what the word would be...desegregation?"

Racial desegregation is the term you're looking for, yes.

Not only does it appear to be a partial quote, but the actual meaning behind it isn't racist at all. He wasn't saying that people should be forcibly segregated by ethnicity. He was saying that the government shouldn't tell anyone where they can or cannot live based on ethnicity.

What an asshole..

 

[Karen Kraft]

Racial desegregation is the term you're looking for, yes.

Not only does it appear to be a partial quote, but the actual meaning behind it isn't racist at all. He wasn't saying that people should be forcibly segregated by ethnicity. He was saying that the government shouldn't tell anyone where they can or cannot live based on ethnicity.

What an asshole..

Bingo.

You are 100% correct.

(first goddamn time ever...)

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Bingo.

You are 100% correct.

(first goddamn time ever...)

Keep your kisses and flowers for people who put any stock in your opinion.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The only references I can find for that quote all refer to a WSJ article by Bruce Bartlett, a well known conservative opinion columnist and domestic policy advisor to Ronald Reagan and later a treasury official under George H.W. Bush.

It appears, from the ... in the middle to be two partial quotes taken out of context with no reference to where exactly they came from other than sometime in 1976..

I'm sure a conservative opinion columnist wouldn't do his best to put the statements in the worst possible light.

Gosh, that would mean Mr. Kraft is quoting a Wall Street Journal opinion column with no supporting context. Gosh, that seems a tad intellectually dishonest, dontcha think?

 

[Karen Kraft]

Keep your kisses and flowers for people who put any stock in your opinion.

Uh-oh.

Wagons all pulling into a dark little circle today?

Okay.

Eat shit and die on your birthday.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Uh-oh.

Wagons all pulling into a dark little circle today?

Okay.

Eat shit and die on your birthday.

Such bitterness, Mr. Kraft, such bitterness.....

Problems on the homefront, perhaps? Is the wife unhappy?

 

[Karen Kraft]

Such bitterness, Mr. Kraft, such bitterness.....

Problems on the homefront, perhaps? Is the wife unhappy?

.... and that's your proof that the Democrat Party is not the party of racism, historically, in the United States.

You are an excelling spokes-turd for your party.

Too many alts there, boy.

We all can see they are the same "person".

Go post in someone else's thread. This one is trying to be serious.

Not open to failed abortions and undermenchen.

 

[RobDownSouth]

.... and that's your proof that the Democrat Party is not the party of racism, historically, in the United States.

You are an excelling spokes-turd for your party.

Too many alts there, boy.

We all can see they are the same "person".

Go post in someone else's thread. This one is trying to be serious.

Not open to failed abortions and undermenchen.

Let's not put words in my mouth, Mr. Kraft.

I'm more than willing to admit that the Democratic party, particularly the Southern elements of the Democratic party, was a bastion of institutional racism from 1856 to 1948.

From 1948 onward to around 1980, in particular picking up steam after the Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed, the institutional racists of the party left the Democratic party and took up permanent residence in the rightmost fringe of the Republican party, where they are given encouragement to hate on people not like themselves to this day.

 

[Pookie]

I almost always avoid any interaction with UD for this very reason. I often picture him sitting at a computer in some institution with bars on the windows on locks on the door while the attendants in the other room say "At least he's quiet while he's focusing on that computer".

Oooooo-kay. Whatever floats your boat, dude. My fantasies can get a little bizarre at times too though.

 

[TurdFergeson]

Oooooo-kay. Whatever floats your boat, dude. My fantasies can get a little bizarre at times too though.

I'm afraid to imagine your fantasies about me, Pookster.

(I know you have them)

 

[Pookie]

I'm afraid to imagine your fantasies about me, Pookster.

(I know you have them)

You should be very afraid. You should be running.

 

[TurdFergeson]

You should be very afraid. You should be running.

I should be. I need to get in better shape.

 

[Wrong Element]

I'm not sure what's wrong with this. It reads a lot like Reagan to me.

That statement was pretty controversial at the time. Keep in mind that in 1976, it was still a major novelty for any southerner, especially a Democrat (still the majority party throughout the south), to be openly seeking black votes. Carter's comment struck an awful lot of people as an endorsement of de facto segregation, and he had to work very hard to get blacks outside of Georgia to trust him. The 1976 election map, where Carter lost Illinois and won Mississippi, was the last gasp of the political demographic that was in force in the U.S. for over 100 years.

I've seen posts like KK's opening post here before, but one thing I've never understood is why the facts she brings up, which I don't believe any liberal here has ever disputed, prompt so much glee from the board conservatives. Racism in modern politics bothers them not at all, but racists of the past are something to be embarrassed about?

Yet another instance where the wingnut thought process goes way over my head.

 

[Skandalon]

Now you have trulky earned the name Karen Krap.

Racist

 

[Beco]

Racist

How's it going Chief?

 

[Skandalon]

And even worse

Karen Krap and her alt Powerturd cover up current right ring Republican racism and their pathological hatred of equal opportunity. So they try to cover up their sick white supremacist base and endless right wing racial slurs about President Obama by taking some ancient historical quotes out of context.

As Leonard Pitts once wrote, the [racist] Republican Party was created by a single stroke of Lydon Johnson's pen!

The southern Democrats then left the party [thank God] and formed the rabid right wing neocon John Bircher Republican base that wallows in its current ignorance and racism today.

Of which Kraen Krap, using the ancient tactic of accusation in a mirror, tries to deflect criticism from current Republican base's racist acts by accusing liberals of what Republicans are clearly guilty of.

Nice try at a lie, toots. Now babysit your post and write some lame defense of your current batch of right wing slander and lies, race baiter!

 

[Aviator1976]

Pointing out your partisan bullshit is hardly ignorance, is it?

Partisan bullshit?

She is pointing out that ignorance and racism exists along the entire political spectrum and is not just on the right of center.