Decision '08

[cheerful_deviant]

Is 'None of the Above' an option?



No, seriously.

 

[BlackShanglan]

It's got my vote. Every election year I wish more strongly that the Monster Raving Loony Party would start up a US wing.

 

[cloudy]

It's got my vote. Every election year I wish more strongly that the Monster Raving Loony Party would start up a US wing.

Flying Spaghetti Monster Party, maybe?

 

[cheerful_deviant]

How about at "Beer Party".

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Paul '08

 

[cloudy]

Paul '08

Not a chance, it won't happen.

 

[Joe Wordsworth]

Not a chance, it won't happen.

Irrevelant, regarding support.

 

[cloudy]

Irrevelant, regarding support.

true, but regardless, he'll never even get the nomination. Not saying you're wrong in your support, just that he doesn't have enough of that support to make it.

 

[rgraham666]

I like Paul in a lot of ways. Despite his propensity to use that silly word 'statist'.

I've found his supporters, for the most part, tend to give me the creeps.

I feel the same way about McCain, too.

 

[SavannahMann]

Personally I'm planning on a write in.

I'm going to write in John Smith, and let the elections people figure out which one I mean.

 

[rgraham666]

I'm going to write in John Smith, and let the elections people figure out which one I mean.

Nice one.

 

[TxRad]

I've supported "None of the Above" in the last half dozen elections.

 

[BlackShanglan]

I'm going to write in John Smith, and let the elections people figure out which one I mean.

Beautiful. I think I'll do the same thing with Caligula.

 

[cloudy]

Beautiful. I think I'll do the same thing with Caligula.

ooh, I like that!

I'm stealing it.

 

[BlackShanglan]

ooh, I like that!

I'm stealing it.

Do you think it's too late to launch a nationwide campaign?

I need to get out my copy of the Constitution. Does it actually require that the president be alive?

 

[Guest]

Do you think it's too late to launch a nationwide campaign?

I need to get out my copy of the Constitution. Does it actually require that the president be alive?

We've had presidents serving their term who were not alive.

Guess it doesn't matter.

 

[starrkers]

And they wonder why so few people actually vote.

 

[Weird Harold]

Is 'None of the Above' an option?



No, seriously.

It is in Nevada for any statewide contest on the ballot -- which includes the presidential ballot.

Eight years ago, it made a fairly respectible showing against Al Gore and GWB. Nevadans voted against John Kerry more than they did Gore, so None Of The Above lost ground and GWB gained ground four years ago.

IIRC, you've still got four months to establish residency and register to vote here.

 

[Weird Harold]

And they wonder why so few people actually vote.

Starkkers, I vote when there's a choice worth voting for -- or against. The problem is that I'm registered as an Independent Voter and Nevada went from closed primaries to party caucuses I don't get much say in who will be on the ballot. Far too often, the choices I'm given are The Devil, The Deep Blue Sea, "Those Other Two Sure Look Good In Comparison To Me" and None of The Above. Three guesses which I vote for.

 

[BlackShanglan]

It's worth remembering that while no one is permitted to divulge who you voted for, whether you voted at all is a matter of public record. I vote in every election, even if it's for a candidate absolutely certain to lose (yes, I voted for Nadar, direct rocks here), because I want it on record that horses of my particular demographic group do vote.

If your demographic is known not to show up at the polls, politicians find your concerns of remarkably little interest.

 

[Jet Black]

I think Lewis Black was on to something.


Here's the deal. We dig up Ronald Reagan, drive him around the country, and elect him president.

Really, if we elect a dead president, is anyone gunna fuck with us anymore? Especially if it's Ronald Reagan. He scared North Korea for God sakes.




...Ooh! Additional idea! Let's make him a zombie! >.> Dead Zombie Ronald Reagan, for 08! Anything scarier then that? I can think of only one >.< - And that involves atomic-powered Gorilla-Lions o_o. With laser beams on there head!



...I need sleep

 

[Carnevil9]

Is 'None of the Above' an option?



No, seriously.

Of course it is. Just stay home. Many do.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Well you did say "seriously"... so let us be serious for a minute.

This primary thing is a process. It is a vastly better process than it used to be but is still plagued by silly rules, caucuses, etc.. (Am I the only one who thinks that it is outrageous that primary voters in Michigan and elsewhere were disenfranchised because the local party moved the date of their primary up a few weeks in the calendar? Utterly ridiculous!)

And so the process winds it's way along until we have two major candidates, whose principal virtue is not having said anything specific so as not to piss anyone off.

Having voted these people into being candidates.. we then have the grand American tradition of trashing the candidates and our lack of a valid "choice"... We did have choices.... "we" just didn't choose them.

Now I have no idea why someone would want to be a serious candidate for President. I sure as hell would not, even if I thought someone other than my Mother would vote for me. I not only smoked dope, I inhaled it and went back for more. Oh... and I write disgusting, perverted, immoral porn (or at least I try to). But we do have serious people who think that they can really help the country by being President.


I don't know.... but it just seems to me that at least choosing between tweedledee and tweedledum contributes something and I will continue to do it. I will admit that I voted for Eldridge Cleaver in 1968 because I thought the pretty obvious central issue at the time was the war and both candidates liked it and I did not. Not only was Eldridge against the war... .he promised to rename the President's residence to "The Black House"... How could I not vote for him? Unfortunately, he didn't win.

On a pragmatic level, I like to encourage others not to vote or vote for Mickey Mouse (he may actually be a candidate in Florida). It makes my vote count for more…in a statistical kind of way. And maybe Tweedledum will invite me to the Inaugural Ball… before things start to go down hill.

Okay... I guess the serious moment is over.

No, it's not...

Was it not in the meaningless Michigan primary that "None of the above" got more votes than the "winner" Hillary? I guess you can vote “None of the Above” and I encourage you to do it.

Serious moment truly over.

-KC

 

[Boxlicker101]

Well you did say "seriously"... so let us be serious for a minute.

This primary thing is a process. It is a vastly better process than it used to be but is still plagued by silly rules, caucuses, etc.. (Am I the only one who thinks that it is outrageous that primary voters in Michigan and elsewhere were disenfranchised because the local party moved the date of their primary up a few weeks in the calendar? Utterly ridiculous!)

And so the process winds it's way along until we have two major candidates, whose principal virtue is not having said anything specific so as not to piss anyone off.

Having voted these people into being candidates.. we then have the grand American tradition of trashing the candidates and our lack of a valid "choice"... We did have choices.... "we" just didn't choose them.

Now I have no idea why someone would want to be a serious candidate for President. I sure as hell would not, even if I thought someone other than my Mother would vote for me. I not only smoked dope, I inhaled it and went back for more. Oh... and I write disgusting, perverted, immoral porn (or at least I try to). But we do have serious people who think that they can really help the country by being President.


I don't know.... but it just seems to me that at least choosing between tweedledee and tweedledum contributes something and I will continue to do it. I will admit that I voted for Eldridge Cleaver in 1968 because I thought the pretty obvious central issue at the time was the war and both candidates liked it and I did not. Not only was Eldridge against the war... .he promised to rename the President's residence to "The Black House"... How could I not vote for him? Unfortunately, he didn't win.

On a pragmatic level, I like to encourage others not to vote or vote for Mickey Mouse (he may actually be a candidate in Florida). It makes my vote count for more…in a statistical kind of way. And maybe Tweedledum will invite me to the Inaugural Ball… before things start to go down hill.

Okay... I guess the serious moment is over.

No, it's not...

Was it not in the meaningless Michigan primary that "None of the above" got more votes than the "winner" Hillary? I guess you can vote “None of the Above” and I encourage you to do it.

Serious moment truly over.

-KC

"Undeclared" mounted a serious challenge to Hillary, and came in a strong second.

Ronald Reagan served eight years already and would be Constitutionally ineligible. Unless his zombie would be considered to be not him. That would be an interesting point of law.

Caligula was not a naural born US citizen when he was alive.

 

[Weird Harold]

Was it not in the meaningless Michigan primary that "None of the above" got more votes than the "winner" Hillary? I guess you can vote “None of the Above” and I encourage you to do it.

I don't know about Michigan's NOTA option. Nevada's is kind of neat because in the unlikely event that NOTA should actually win an election, none of the candidates that lost to it can run for that office again! (or at least not in the new election to find an acceptable candidate -- they might be able to try again in the next election cycle)

IOW, if Hillary (or anyone else) lost to NOTA in a Nevada Primary, she (they) would NOT be on the General Election ballot in Nevada come November no matter how many other primaries she (they) might have won to get the nomination.

None of The Above isn't a meaningless protest vote in Nevada, nor should it be in any other State. I'd seriously like to see a national None of the Above for President campaign to reject the party shills and force them to nominate someone with an actual platform.