Dear Red States

[Xelebes]

Not sure I'm happy about that. I'd like to see America as a single nation. There are a lot of problems with it Balkanizing.

I also don't like the 'You're not really Americans' tone to it. This is a drum that the neo-cons have been pounding for decades. I'm sad to see the other side dancing to it.

Sad to see, glad to remark.

How I feel about it.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

The lefties are BLUE in your country???

Over here, we're red. Blue is for conservatives. Then again, your liberals are more conservative than ours.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

The lefties are BLUE in your country???

Over here, we're red. Blue is for conservatives. Then again, your liberals are more conservative than ours.

Got it in one! Many a European has commented (and sometimes complained) that there is no Left in the U.S., only varying degrees of Right. That's pretty accurate. Any real Left here would be ashcanned as a moldy oldy, as out of touch as old Karl. When we speak of Marx and Lenin over here, we mean Groucho and John!

 

[midwestyankee]

"A 7-year-old radio interview in which Barack Obama discussed the failure of the Supreme Court to rule on redistributing wealth in its civil rights rulings has given fresh ammunition to critics who say the Democratic presidential candidate has a socialist agenda.

The interview -- conducted by Chicago Public Radio in 2001, while Obama was an Illinois state senator and a law professor at the University of Chicago -- delves into whether the civil rights movement should have gone further than it did, so that when "dispossessed peoples" appealed to the high court on the right to sit at the lunch counter, they should have also appealed for the right to have someone else pay for the meal.

In the interview, Obama said the civil rights movement was victorious in some regards, but failed to create a "redistributive change" in its appeals to the Supreme Court, led at the time by Chief Justice Earl Warren. He suggested that such change should occur at the state legislature level, since the courts did not interpret the U.S. Constitution to permit such change.

"The Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and sort of basic issues of political and economic justice in this society, and to that extent as radical as people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical," Obama said in the interview, a recording of which surfaced on the Internet over the weekend.

"It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the founding fathers in the Constitution, at least as it has been interpreted."

We've had redistribution of wealth, to a greater or lesser extent, since the introduction of the income tax. Obama's argument, here, is that while it may be desirable to change the way in which that redistribution happens, any changes should be made through the political and legislative processes rather than through the courts. How does this make him a socialist?

Evidence, please.

 

[epiphany65]

We've had redistribution of wealth, to a greater or lesser extent, since the introduction of the income tax. Obama's argument, here, is that while it may be desirable to change the way in which that redistribution happens, any changes should be made through the political and legislative processes rather than through the courts. How does this make him a socialist?

Evidence, please.

He wasn't talking about that anyway. He was talking about what should have been done to help slaves who had been freed. There's an article and explaination of what he really meant here:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/10/27/redistribute_video/index.html

 

[Guest]

We've had redistribution of wealth, to a greater or lesser extent, since the introduction of the income tax. Obama's argument, here, is that while it may be desirable to change the way in which that redistribution happens, any changes should be made through the political and legislative processes rather than through the courts. How does this make him a socialist?

Evidence, please.

You won't get evidence from DP.

 

[DesertPirate]

You won't get evidence from DP.

It's called socialism and it's what Obama believes in. Have a big Govt. nany state to toake from the rih and give to the poor. Make it do everything for you and give nobady any incentive to succeed.
There is a reason he has the furthest left voting reord in the U. S. Senate

 

[epiphany65]

It's called socialism and it's what Obama believes in. Have a big Govt. nany state to toake from the rih and give to the poor. Make it do everything for you and give nobady any incentive to succeed.
There is a reason he has the furthest left voting reord in the U. S. Senate

Simply saying it over and over doesn't make it true.

 

[DesertPirate]

Simply saying it over and over doesn't make it true.

Ignoring the truth doesn't make you right.

 

[epiphany65]

Ignoring the truth doesn't make you right.

Well, I guess you had better get used to living in a socialist country then, judging from what the polls say. Luckily the US flag already has plenty of red stripes... maybe Obama will add a hammer and sickle...

 

[Guest]

Well, I guess you had better get used to living in a socialist country then, judging from what the polls say. Luckily the US flag already has plenty of red stripes... maybe Obama will add a hammer and sickle...

I just get a chuckle out of the worries about socialism.

What exactly do they call the $700 billion bailout?

 

[epiphany65]

I just get a chuckle out of the worries about socialism.

What exactly do they call the $700 billion bailout?

and next they'll be bailing out auto makers.

 

[Guest]

and next they'll be bailing out auto makers.

We're in a huge financial mess, truth be told.

What is also funny to me is that we didn't hear anything about socialism before - was it a week ago?

And now - the evils of socialism and Obama! Whooooooooo!

As if people have worried about this for months and months and that's the reason they will vote McCain.

Pathetic.

 

[epiphany65]

We're in a huge financial mess, truth be told.

What is also funny to me is that we didn't hear anything about socialism before - was it a week ago?

And now - the evils of socialism and Obama! Whooooooooo!

As if people have worried about this for months and months and that's the reason they will vote McCain.

Pathetic.

The right knows they're losing so they're resorting to the lies and fear-mongering of all red baiters. It's actually quite pathetic, but they have nothing to offer so all they can do is try to frighten voters into not voting for Obama.

 

[Guest]

The right knows they're losing so they're resorting to the lies and fear-mongering of all red baiters. It's actually quite pathetic, but they have nothing to offer so all they can do is try to frighten voters into not voting for Obama.

One week left.

The attacks will increase, won't they? It's going to be nasty.

I hope that enough people will continue to be disgusted with the negative attacks, as the polls from the last few weeks have shown.

I hope.

(Goodnight - it's late here in the midwest!)

 

[epiphany65]

One week left.

The attacks will increase, won't they? It's going to be nasty.

I hope that enough people will continue to be disgusted with the negative attacks, as the polls from the last few weeks have shown.

I hope.

(Goodnight - it's late here in the midwest!)

Getting late here too (1:30ish). I should get to bed myself. Have a good night.

 

[DesertPirate]

*Wonders how the Blue states will react to having most of the gun makers*

 

[DesertPirate]

I just get a chuckle out of the worries about socialism.

What exactly do they call the $700 billion bailout?

I call it completely stupid!
Let the companies fail, investigate fraud and mismanagement, then prosecute.
CEO's that make bad decisions should lose their shirts & freedom.
Congressritters that profit from it should be in jail (Barney Frank and friends)