Dear Masters, Mistresses, submissives & slaves

[slutsophie]

I have opened this thread on the instruction of my Mistress. Under her supervision I am about to commence my slut training.

My Mistress would like to invite the users of this forum to particapate in my training by contributing their ideas and experiences. She is eager to adapt these suggestions into my training program.

At her request I have also attached the text from my training contract which I have eagerly signed and returned. I am not permited to view this thread in future therefore I would like to take this oppurtunity to thank each and every one of you who will particapate in my training. I am sure your contributions will make for a very exciting and eventful training regime. I am sure that I will be required to open a diary thread to keep you posted on the progress.

Sophie


Sophie's Slut Training Contract
The contract attached here under contains some thoughts on the training program that will be employed to transform a submissive male into a sissy slut (hereafter refered to as ‘Sophie’). This in no way is a definitive list. Master/Mistress may chose to add to it or alter it.

By signing this contract Sophie indicates her willingness to partake in this training program and indicates her desire to become her Master/Mistresses Slut/Sissy. Once the program begins, it will only conclude once the program duration as selected by Sophie has lapsed. If the milestones have not been met, then the program will continue until Master/Mistress is satisfied that Sophie presents herself and has performed to the standard that is worthy of being branded a Sissy/Slut.

Master/Mistress can instruct/order Sophie to become the dominant one for a specified period of time.

Given that the training will continue for period of time, Master/Mistress may choose to define rest periods if they so desire.

In signing Master/Mistress indicates they’re willingness to train Sophie to the best of they’re ability and will not accept pleads of no, I’m tired, or merci at any time during the training.

Background and Objectives
• This is a slut training program, aimed at creating a submissive sissy slut which both Master/Mistress can enjoy at their desire (outside the duration of the training).
• It is also designed as a program for Sophie who wants to serve her Master/Mistress, but has difficulty continuing after the initial climax.
• Ultimately Sophie will learn than enough does not exist, and that a love making session, where she is in either in the dominant or submissive roll can last for hours or even days.
• At the end of the training, she will be able to receive her masters cock multiple times during the day
• Sophie will be able to reverse rolls and give her Mistress pleasure by filling her mistresses pussy with her sweet juice numerous times in a day and without so much as a thought, use her tongue and mouth to clean her mistresses pussy after each.

Important
• Sophie will be bound during many sessions with handcuffs, chains, collars, padlocks, ropes and a gag. Padlocks and handcuffs will be used primarily, with clips being used in instances where Sophie will not be able to undo them.
• In order to meet the milestones of the program, Sophie must be prepared to Suck her masters Cock Daily, Take her masters Cock/or mistresses toys in her Pussy Daily and give her mistress pleasure daily orally or otherwise.
• Sophie is only allowed to climax when Master/Mistress allows it.
• As there will be no merci, Master/Mistress will regularly check to ensure that Sophie’s pussy does not become to sore. In the event it does, additional lubricant will be applied and the session will continue. In the event that the pain continues, master/mistress will stop their activity, either take a break for a while and/or insert a plug for a period of time. Sophie will remain bound.
• After Sophie climaxes, a plug will be inserted in her pussy, and she will remain bound awaiting her master/mistresses return. At this point the decision will be made whether to start another session, or to release Sophie till later (the plug may remain in place with the latter option).
• On occasion, Master/Mistress will require that Sophie has a plug inserted in her pussy as she goes about her daily routine. This will help keep her pussy moist and ready to receive her masters cock or mistress toys with ease.
• A plug may and in many cases will be inserted for the interval during sessions.
• Master/Mistress will keep a photographic and video diary of the events from commencement to conclusion.

Commencement
• The training can commence on any date after both Sophie and Master/Mistress signs this contract
• Sophie will be notified in writing that her training is set to commence (mail, text of email).
• All regular underwear will be replaced with panties for the duration of the training, with the regular underwear being stored by Master/Mistress.
• The duration of the training will be left to chance. Master/Mistress will pre-select suitable durations (in terms of days), i.e. 21, 28, 35, etc… up to any maximum they wish.
• Each duration will be written on a piece of paper and Sophie must select the duration at random.
• The shortest duration is at the discretion of Master/Mistress (if they wish to chose 35 days, then that is their prerogative)
• Mistress/Master may decide to load the hat in terms of a duration they want the training to last, i.e. there maybe only 1 of each duration and 20 of the longest duration, thereby increasing the chances of Sophie being the ultimate Sex Slave/Slut
• The duration of the training will be selected on the commencement day. If notified by post, the various durations may be included in sealed envelops with the commencement notification. Sophie can only select one of these.
• A signed copy of training contract will also be provided to Sophie.

Rules
• Master/Mistress has the final say
• Training will last for the duration selected, even if the milestones have been met.
• No Merci!
• Sophie must submit to Master/Mistress at all times, in other words Sophie does as she is told at ALL times. If she refuses, she will be spanked. Master/Mistress does her the way they want, when they want to and where they want to at all times. No such thing as refusal.
• Master/Mistress decides on the time and place for each session
• On occasion Sophie will be asked how she would like to be taken herself. If Master/Mistress deems this suitable, Sophie maybe rewarded. This is provided that Sophie complies at all times.
• Master/Mistress may punish Sophie via spanking or other means
• For the duration of the training, Sophie can only wear panties under her regular clothes
• When Sophie return’s home, She will find her clothes laid out for that day/evening. She must wear these at all times unless otherwise advised. Selection of clothes is based on master/mistress intention and may only consist of a collar and plug.
• Sophie must wear panties and maybe a nightie to bed for the duration of the training.
• Master/Mistress may decide that Sophie’s pubic region must remain clean and free from hair for the training duration.
• In order to complete the transformation into Sophie, Master/Mistress may require the removal of other bodily hair. This will be advised.
• Sophie is only allowed to climax with Master/Mistresses approval. She must inform them at all times if she is close. Failure to do so will result in a spanking and her cum being feed to her (e.g. a dildo maybe dipped in it and Sophie must suck it clean while being spanked)

Requirements
• Diary to be maintained daily of all sessions. No names or places should be included, as Master/Mistress may want it posted as Sophie’s Slut Training Diary to a suitable Story Board, or maybe the to a blog site or forum.
• Sophie’s pussy must be cleansed regularly.
• On days where time in the morning allows, cleansing must be done before leaving the house. Master/Mistress may require Sophie’s service on her immediate return.
• Sophie must wear high heals at home at all times unless otherwise told differently.
• Sophie is required to browse forums and websites daily, gathering training ideas and must report all findings back for consideration.

Milestones
• Minimum 30 minute (ideally 40) Marathon Session where master pumps Sophie’s Pussy for this duration.
• At Least Four (ideally six) separate sessions where master pump’s Sophie’s Pussy (no time limit) in one day, to occur on at least three concurrent days. Sophie will not be required to climax.
• Without hesitation, Sophie to clean Mistresses Pussy after she has pumped it full of juice. This must occur at least twice in one day and must occur on two concurrent days
• At least one session with master and one session with mistress to occur outdoors (weather permitting)

I ___________________ accept this contract in its entirety. I recognize that by signing I surrender myself totally to my mistress/master for its duration, be that a period of days or months. It is my desire to be dominated and trained. I have had enough only when my master/mistress says so. I expect that my Master/Mistress will not accept no from me at any time. I am now at they’re merci. Please train me to be your ultimate slut!

 

[Mistress Lilith]

My Submissive Slut

I see that my future sissy slut has done as I requested.

I must say I am quite pleased with the opening thread, and will reward her accordingly. For those who are interested, I put her in a nice outfit after her shower today, a matching bra and panties set (black trimed with pink).

Over the coming weeks I do intend to train her in he womaningly ways. I welcome all suggestions that you might have. I have a large number of butt plugs, strap on dildos, restraints etc... and of course paddles at my disposal.

I hope that many of you will become involved in this training. I want a really dirty and kinky slut to enjoy, so be as suggestive as you dare.

Mistress Lilith

 

[catalina_francisco]

So is there a reason you don't feel you can train your sissy slut yourself? I would think if they belong to you, you would want to personalise their training to suit your needs, not those of a multitude of anonymous personalities behind a computer screen.

Catalina

 

[reallyrandy]

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[greenmands]

So is there a reason you don't feel you can train your sissy slut yourself? I would think if they belong to you, you would want to personalise their training to suit your needs, not those of a multitude of anonymous personalities behind a computer screen.

Catalina

I heartily agree with miss catalina that the training should be personalized to your and her needs and desires.

 

[incubus'_sub]

I, too, agree with Catalina & I do hope that we're not subjected to daily updates of something which is really only interesting to the 2 people involved.

 

[bullaford]

The whole contract seemed sort of "off" to me, but that is just me. Let's hope this thread dies a happy and seemingly painless death.

 

[Xelebes]

E-mail or PM, please.

 

[@}-}rebecca----]

I am a little confused it seems there are in fact a Mistress and a Master to serve /be and trained for ?

Its refreshing however to see such a formal contract . As for the context ,well........as I am no voyuer its fair to say it won't be the only Thread that falls under the 'too much information for rebecca' clause.

Then there is that 'thang' where we are supposed to embrace everyones kink/difference/perceptions of BDSM .......hmmmn .....smiles........I may have to sit this one out awhile and defer 'judgement' until a little more information avails itself. I am sensing 'parody'.......however.......

Now if our slutsophie has agreed to training with a heavy emphasis on humiliation then every PYL and his/her pyl adding little anecdotes may be just the thing . For those of us not interested in daily updates its a good thing most threads are not a mandatory read huh

 

[catalina_francisco]

The whole contract seemed sort of "off" to me, but that is just me. Let's hope this thread dies a happy and seemingly painless death.

I didn't bother reading the contract last night, but on looking at it this morning, it is rather light. LOL, I imagine most of the male subs we play and talk with would find it a bit disappointing in the challenging department. I was going to suggest a spanking for bad spelling with a daily exercise of spelling study, but then given it says it is a copy of the original contract, presume the spelling issue is that or the Master/Mistress? Given there is mention of delivering changes and training notes by post or email, is this a LDR or cyber only? If so, how is all that damn fucking going to take place?

Catalina

 

[heckle]

Hmmm... Interesting method of training. Did you read abotu this in a chatroom or something?

 

[lisa-CD]

Hmmmm, how interesting.

I read this thread with much interest, and unlike some of the other posts above find it rather exciting. In many instances I think the point has been missed. My interoperation of the contract, is that this is an adventure, where all parties have some but limited knowledge (hence a little light). What is obvious to me is that the controller, is requesting the input of experience to make the training meaningful. The controller is also introducing a level of humiliation into the training by demanding the posting of the contract for all to see here. The input from us readers will result in further humiliation.

Another point that somebody mentioned was daily updates. What I read was that a diary thread maybe be opened to keep those of us who maybe interested or for that matter contribute, informed of the progress. If we think about this, this could be another means of humiliation where slutsophie posts the things she has experienced and us users reply back gloating about our individual input into her training.

I think that a lot more thought has gone into this than we are giving credit for. Is it that we are to quick to judge in this instance?

A point that was also raised was this a LDR or a Cyber only program! This a very valid point.

My reading of the contract would state otherwise, in that it will be a 24/7 event. Reading the contract does support this (references to daily and the big give away 'Master/Mistress will keep a photographic and video diary").

Let me suggest something very simple as a strating point:
Personally I fell very feminine when my partner prepares a nice hot bath for me with a nice glass of wine, and then gives me a complete body shave. Afterwards when I put on my panties, bra and stockings I really feel girly. You could use this as a starting suggestion.

You have mentioned toys. What do you have that you can use?

 

[catalina_francisco]

I read this thread with much interest, and unlike some of the other posts above find it rather exciting.

I think what you will find in why people are not gushing to be part of this is that it is not new, it has been done before, and seems to be something that has come up often in past months assuming we are all wanting to be part of it....not to mention that part often mentioned and discussed here about involving others without asking their consent. I don't think the point has been missed, just we do not know any of these people from Adam, Eve, or Satan for that matter and the first introduction is this which sometimes makes people feel they are being used or trolled, and that the poster is not real but out for a laugh.

The controller is also introducing a level of humiliation into the training by demanding the posting of the contract for all to see here. The input from us readers will result in further humiliation.

Why would a contract be humiliating? Most here have mentioned and discussed similar and more humiliating experiences that have happened to or with them. Add to that once again, people may not like being made part of this without any nicities to start with. I think a lot comes down to how you post here, more than what....and being the silly season of the year tends to make most sceptical about reality as well.

I think that a lot more thought has gone into this than we are giving credit for. Is it that we are to quick to judge in this instance?

Not overly, and not so much judging as not wanting to be seen to be here to serve these 2-3 people's needs. And as said, it is fairly standard stuff so has not required lots of thought, just some duplicating of ideas and words of others.

A point that was also raised was this a LDR or a Cyber only program! This a very valid point.

My reading of the contract would state otherwise, in that it will be a 24/7 event. Reading the contract does support this (references to daily and the big give away 'Master/Mistress will keep a photographic and video diary").

Yes, which is why I queried the circumstances because just as those things were mentioned, so were the delivery of notes and orders by email or post which to me does not suggest 24/7 in the same household and more likely cyber.....wouldn't be the first time we have been told about how it feels to be whipped, flogged, and spanked only to find out later the only such actions that took place were self inflicted and/or through a PC screen. Big difference in the actual feel of it and someyimes cyber only do record through video and photos without actually ever touching each other in RL.

I daresay some may find entertainment value in it, or want to be part of it, but as I realise I tend to be more serious overall, it is not for me in that context. That does not mean it is right or wrong, but I did get the feel perhaps it belonged somewhere more like SRP or ORP, Cafe at best, then if they wanted any thoughts on what they were doing for real, or wanted to share their experiences, perhaps joining or starting threads and sharing with others instead of expecting others to participate in their lives in a one way exchange. Just my opinion which no doubt is influenced by other factors, and others may not agree.

Catalina

 

[shy slave]

My main thoughts on this were if its not cyber, then how does it manage to work in reality due to the following?

The duration of the training will be left to chance. Master/Mistress will pre-select suitable durations (in terms of days), i.e. 21, 28, 35, etc… up to any maximum they wish.
• Each duration will be written on a piece of paper and Sophie must select the duration at random.
• The shortest duration is at the discretion of Master/Mistress (if they wish to chose 35 days, then that is their prerogative)
• Mistress/Master may decide to load the hat in terms of a duration they want the training to last, i.e. there maybe only 1 of each duration and 20 of the longest duration, thereby increasing the chances of Sophie being the ultimate Sex Slave/Slut

1.When does any of them manage to go to work or do normal day-to-day things if she is constantly being fucked (or trained) for days and days.

2. The slave is in a lose:lose situation. One clause is that the duration is written down and she chooses from a hat. Two clauses down it states that the hat can be loaded depending on what the Master/Mistress wants.

I don't like lose:lose it teaches people to dislike any situation. If Sophie is having a bad day for personal reasons and knows she is going to be used for a long duration its not going to make her mentally willing. I know there are times when it happens to all of us, but this contract does not take that into account

3. I don't see any 'get of jail card free' For example if they are in the middle of a training session, regardless of duration, and Sophies family need her RIGHT NOW ~what then?

4. I can't help but note her Mistress posted in this thread saying she is 'quite pleased' yet the contract is continually refers to Master/Mistress not an equal reversal of these words. Does this mean it he is actually the main control and the Mistress is another slave following her Masters bidding. If it is Two Dominants then the contract should reflect equality throughout or use an neutral word to represent both parties. As a female slave who believes in equality I wonder if I he had the final say due to the way the contract was written.

And I feel ignorant for asking this but I confused about Sophies gender. The contract refers to 'Master pumping her pussy full of juice' and it refers to Sophie pumping her Mistress full of juice. Can anyone explain this to me?

Finally, Catalina I noticed the spelling mistakes too, but as someone who makes lots of them due to lack of attention please don't give anyone ideas of making me improve LOL

 

[Kajira Callista]

Is there a big deal here that somehow i am missing. If you dont like the thread why are you all reading it in the first place?

 

[catalina_francisco]

And I feel ignorant for asking this but I confused about Sophies gender. The contract refers to 'Master pumping her pussy full of juice' and it refers to Sophie pumping her Mistress full of juice. Can anyone explain this to me?

Finally, Catalina I noticed the spelling mistakes too, but as someone who makes lots of them due to lack of attention please don't give anyone ideas of making me improve LOL

LOL, not scared now are you?!! The pussy thing IMX with a sissy sub is his/her arse if that helps the confusion.

Catalina

 

[Mistress Lilith]

I am flattered that this thread has spawned such debate.

Allow me to start out and apologize for Sophie’s poor spelling. She will be punished accordingly thanks to your observations.

So is there a reason you don't feel you can train your sissy slut yourself?

No. But as I have only relatively limited experience I foolishly thought that maybe some others here might have some suggestions.

I would think if they belong to you, you would want to personalise their training to suit your needs, not those of a multitude of anonymous personalities behind a computer screen.

This is true but strange as it may seem, your input into the training will personalize her for my needs. Maybe I am little concerned that I am a little green in this area and would like encouragement from the more experienced. Maybe it is the humiliation that Sophie will experience knowing that what I do to her has been suggested by other’s. Maybe it’s my own inadequacies that I fear.

It is also important to remember that I will choose what to adapt and what not, thereby ensuring that she personalized to my needs.

I am a little confused it seems there are in fact a Mistress and a Master to serve /be and trained for ?

4. I can't help but note her Mistress posted in this thread saying she is 'quite pleased' yet the contract is continually refers to Master/Mistress not an equal reversal of these words. Does this mean it he is actually the main control and the Mistress is another slave following her Masters bidding. If it is Two Dominants then the contract should reflect equality throughout or use an neutral word to represent both parties. As a female slave who believes in equality I wonder if I he had the final say due to the way the contract was written.

Sorry for the confusion here. A duel persona will be assumed by one dominant. The vast majority of the training will be executed by the Mistress persona. The Master persona is an additional scene that will be played out during the training. Much in the same way, Sophie will be required to resume the male roll in order to satisfy Mistress at times.

Given there is mention of delivering changes and training notes by post or email, is this a LDR or cyber only?

Within the commencement section it states that Sophie will be notified in writing that her training is set to commence (mail, text of email). This is a means of formalizing the contract only. It is not a cyber or long distance relationship. Sophie is my real life partner.


@ catalina francisco

I did consider posting in the SRP/ORP and the Café, but felt this was the more appropriate thread because it is discussion! Both myself and Sophie politely asked for participation and advice and I do welcome such:

My Mistress would like to invite the users of this forum to particapate in my training by contributing their ideas and experiences. She is eager to adapt these suggestions into my training program.

I welcome all suggestions that you might have.
and
I hope that many of you will become involved in this training. I want a really dirty and kinky slut to enjoy, so be as suggestive as you dare.

I refer also to the Strap on Experience thread. This has been a excellent source of information and I personally have learned a lot from it. I was hoping that others might post their desires and kinks in this thread, thereby creating a unique, almost wish list for Masters, Mistresses, submissives and slaves to consult for inspiration.


@ shy slave

refer to the opening line of the contract.

The contract attached here under contains some thoughts on the training program that will be employed to transform a submissive male into a sissy slut (hereafter refered to as ‘Sophie’)

I understand your concern about personal time requirements etc… I am not heartless and will gauge the situation on a daily basis. Rest periods will be allowed for.

While it was my intention to create a thread that was more exchange of ideas centered, I have to say that this discussion based debate is very welcome.


@ catalina francisco
I am really enjoying your contribution. It has spawned a direction I did not envisage the thread pursuing. Myself or Sophie are not well educated with regards language, hence please forgive spelling/grammar etc… I have also noted your use of acronyms a lot (I’ve had to think a little about some comments). Is there any reason apart from abbreviation?

@ lisa-CD
Its fair to say that you hit the nail on the head.

@ All
Please do contribute more irrespective of your inclination, and maybe we will develop a unique resource for the wider community as a whole.

 

[chris9]

I don't have any suggestions. I just thought I'd say that I don't think your thread is so common here (I don't remember any similar to it) and I do understand why and what you're trying to do.
I do understand that some might not be interested (myself included) for various reasons. We don't have to read it, though. And some here will enjoy discussing ideas.
And even if there have been similar threads (which is probable) newer posters might prefer posting here than adding to a long-dead thread of someone who doesn't come here anymore.

 

[catalina_francisco]

@ catalina francisco
I am really enjoying your contribution. It has spawned a direction I did not envisage the thread pursuing. Myself or Sophie are not well educated with regards language, hence please forgive spelling/grammar etc… I have also noted your use of acronyms a lot (I’ve had to think a little about some comments). Is there any reason apart from abbreviation?

No reason other then it saves space and time when I am in a rush which seems to be most times. LOL, it took me some time to catch up with acronyms used on such forums, and admit I still find the occasional one that stumps me. Language on the other hand never bothers me overly much as we live a simple 24/7 lifestyle that doesn't play much into the practice of using correct deferences online, or playing to the media driven images of what should be, and how.

I am happy you have not been put off by the cool reception, and though it is not an excuse, put it down to the fact we have many such occurances from people asking help or wanting to have us act as voyeurs with little knowledge of who they are, and often their never appearing again even with freindly welcomes. It seems perhaps you are genuine, and as such I am sure you wil find people here will warm to you as they get to know you both and your situation more. We don't bite, but sometimes we do feel a little jaded and let it show.

Can relate to the unsureness when under taking such a task, and while some may offer tips from their own experiences, it is when you go with your own deep feelings and instincts that you get the most creative and suitable ideas for the training as hopefully you know your sissy better than anyone else. Best tip I can give is to not only look at what works for you, but tap into what presses those buttone for your submissive. As recently discussed on another thread, what may humiliate one person may be a no brainer for another....it all comes down to socialisation, triggers, insecurities etc., and learning through careful experiementation the best way to utilise it. For example, there are things I can be asked or expected to do that at times would give me a thrill rather than humiliate me....but if that same act is put in such a way, or delivered with another slant or activity, it can press the humiliation button in a second. I also find in my own experiences of playing with male subs that this works for them also...it is about getting into the head of your submissive and tweaking those areas they may think they have carefully hidden away. Most of all, have fun playing. http://home.scarlet.be/~cl898452/index/erotic/9erotic.gif

Catalina

 

[Mistress Lilith]

@catalina francisco
Cool reception, well I guess it is understandable. I am sure that there does be a lot of passer bys from time to time. I don't have many posts to my credit compared to your 9000+, but then again I only discovered the forum in Nov. Apart form an initial thread 'Sissy Training' I started then, I have simply explored the depths of some of the threads that maybe of benefit to our journey.

It is my sissy who is eager to be trained. I do really enjoy playing with her (I have acquired a rather large collection of toys at this stage), but have never really engaged in a more dominant approach. I know this is something that she desires, and I am hopeful that I will get a few tips from the users here. It was her who mentioned training in the past, and I thought that it would be a nice adventure for the new year. I must say I am very excited about the concept and am eager to make it a fulfilling experience for both of us.

@ Chris
Thanks for the comments. While it might not be of interest to you, the likes of yourself may have some suggestions at some point. Do pop by from time to time

 

[shy slave]

Lilith ~ thank you for the explanation about duel persona that helps me understand the contract you have drawn up.

Catalina ~ Thanks for the explanation about fucking. I get easily confused about some things.
As to being scared...Yes!!! he will be over here soon, he DOESN'T need help finding reasons to execute some additional pain (not all pain is physical ), really he doesn't.
He has enough ammunition from all the things I say, never mind any additional & supposedly useful suggestions from the forum LOL

I will now have nightmares about kneeling in front of a small table learning spelling and grammer from someone who has english as a second language, yet is still more proficent than I am. Thanks Catalina!!

 

[A Desert Rose]

I, too, agree with Catalina & I do hope that we're not subjected to daily updates of something which is really only interesting to the 2 people involved.

Yep.

We are soul sisters... no doubt about it. ;-)

 

[Marquis]

Is there a big deal here that somehow i am missing. If you dont like the thread why are you all reading it in the first place?

 

[catalina_francisco]

Is there a big deal here that somehow i am missing. If you dont like the thread why are you all reading it in the first place?

LOL, moderator responsibility.

Catalina

 

[Kajira Callista]

must be my perfume. i got two roses from Marquis in one day